Which is better?

parse27 · Post by **parse27** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 1:09 am

i'm thinking of building a new system. The one i'm using right now isn't mine.

I'm generally trying to decide on what processor to use?

Which do you guys prefer, an AMD-based system or an Intel-based one?

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 1:11 am

It used to be a matter between how cheap/well-performing the AMD chips were compared to the Pentiums, but now it's a bit different. The prices are right for both brands, but Intel is the present king of pure-megahertz, while AMD rules the price-to-performance realm.

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 1:12 am

Oh,Oh, This will be fun, I would surely say with out a doubt P4. What are you looking to have, and to with it.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 1:41 am

Ok, I'm in this time around.

Intel, hands down.

hehehe

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 1:45 am

Oh yeah...

...Intel.

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 1:48 am

Originally posted by Norm
Ok, I'm in this time around.

Intel, hands down.

hehehe

WOW, never thought of you as a Intel man Norm. But i guess thats where the It Worked

came from.

Immortal · Post by **Immortal** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 1:57 am

Intel.... just a personal preference... that and also I fear change

the_mp3_refuge · Post by **the_mp3_refuge** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 2:00 am

Well, I just bought a P4 and don't wana be alone so intel...

But in reality if you're looking for a long term investment a P4 Northwood B chip should hold ya for a while.

Northwood B = P4 w/512K cache w/ 533FSB FYI

parse27 · Post by **parse27** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 2:27 am

well, i was curious coz P4's are a bit expensive and it seems to me like P4's have to go with RDRAM's (expensive also) to really get the most out of it..

been reading up on some articles also in http://www.tomshardware.com and it seems like AMD's are better, P4's notwithstanding..

frankly, i don't think i can scrape up enough to have a P4..any suggestions other than a P4?

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 2:33 am

Originally posted by parse27
well, i was curious coz P4's are a bit expensive and it seems to me like P4's have to go with RDRAM's (expensive also) to really get the most out of it..

been reading up on some articles also in http://www.tomshardware.com and it seems like AMD's are better, P4's notwithstanding..

frankly, i don't think i can scrape up enough to have a P4..any suggestions other than a P4?

That RDRAM myth is BS. FYI, Toms Hardware Reviews are paid off.

You Asked. The price isn't that much different. Well worth it.

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 2:39 am

Ahh...but RDRAM...it's a nice hammock to lie in.

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 2:45 am

Originally posted by Recondite
Ahh...but RDRAM...it's a nice hammock to lie in.

I hear ya, but the bs about P4's are only good with it. I know you'll agree with that.

BTW what are you doing with that Corsair XMS you had, you selling it?

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 2:28 pm

Where be all the AMD boy's??? Hmmm, are there any left. LOL

LT-73 · Post by **LT-73** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 6:47 pm

Yup, i'm here !

Hey Parse27,

If you really wanna save money and want some really top kickass performance, go AMD.

Look at my sig, I've got an XP1600+ For $51 @ newegg and i got it unlocked and overclocked @ 1.9 Ghz ! and this baby flies!

Make no mistake, when you go AMD, you're playing with the Big Dawgz !!

Take that Intel !

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 6:50 pm

Originally posted by Hybridmonolith
I hear ya, but the bs about P4's are only good with it. I know you'll agree with that. BTW what are you doing with that Corsair XMS you had, you selling it?

I had 768 MB worth of Corsair PC3200...all gone now though.

deleted_acct · Post by **deleted_acct** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 7:19 pm

There both great and right now the pentium has the amds in megahurtz but thats not everthing. I just bought a new xp 2200 and epox mobo and still have to get some memory but if i were to make a system now and had the money i would get the p4 2.8 hate to say it but for now its the leader but when the amd kicks back up and starts kicking ass then ill be with amd i do not currently have a p4 system but if i upgrade soon i will get the new p4 until amd starts kicking back up.

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 8:57 pm

Originally posted by LT-73
Yup, i'm here !

Hey Parse27,

If you really wanna save money and want some really top kickass performance, go AMD.

Look at my sig, I've got an XP1600+ For $51 @ newegg and i got it unlocked and overclocked @ 1.9 Ghz ! and this baby flies!

Make no mistake, when you go AMD, you're playing with the Big Dawgz !!

Take that Intel !

LOL, The Big Dawgs?? Hmmm. Your still my bro LT.

deleted_acct · Post by **deleted_acct** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 9:17 pm

I know one thing when i need overclocking help on amds ill come to LT because He can make those amds rock. Awesome job you have done there LT. Also if i need some p4 help i know to come to Hybrid because he knows his stuff, Also nice system you got there hybrid!

UnitedWeStand · Post by **UnitedWeStand** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 9:36 pm

My dad is a bigtime AMD fanatic, I on the other hand like Mac, and intel. I could never get used to AMD. I am building a P4 machine this weekend.. it oughta be interesting. Abit IT7 Max, P4 2.0AGhz CPU, Volcano 7+ Heatsink/fan, Corsair Pc2700 512MB platinum - silver heatsink, Thermaltake Ram Cooler, 160GB of HD space among 6 Channels 4 raid 2 IDE, Firewire networked with My other computers.. OH yeah, Smokin'
Stay Tuned for Details.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 9:37 pm

Originally posted by parse27
well, i was curious coz P4's are a bit expensive and it seems to me like P4's have to go with RDRAM's (expensive also) to really get the most out of it..

been reading up on some articles also in http://www.tomshardware.com and it seems like AMD's are better, P4's notwithstanding..

frankly, i don't think i can scrape up enough to have a P4..any suggestions other than a P4?

We have fanboys in all directions (

j/k)

The Intel P4 is quite easily o/cable. I have put together a couple of 1.8a that clocked to 2.4 with little effort. You do not need RDRAM for the P4, DDR ram is a fine option with a modest performance hit for a big savings in price.

In Ice Cube's thread regarding the assembly of an inexpensive machine YardofStuff had a great combo (I editted it to include a AMD 1600+). An affordable box with a good kick.

shant,
david

LT-73 · Post by **LT-73** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 2:29 am

Originally posted by Hybridmonolith
LOL, The Big Dawgs?? Hmmm. Your still my bro LT.

Awww, thanx big bro !

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 2:46 am

AMD, but thats personal cuz Pentium just screamz conform BUT!!, that is purely political and this is about the performance to cost ratio and i am out of my realm on that issue...have had blinders on for my UBER and havnt looked at anything else. so, with that ill stop babling and move on.
lol

LT-73 · Post by **LT-73** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 3:00 am

Originally posted by Bastid
AMD, but thats personal cuz Pentium just screamz conform BUT!!, that is purely political and this is about the performance to cost ratio and i am out of my realm on that issue...have had blinders on for my UBER and havnt looked at anything else. so, with that ill stop babling and move on.
lol

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 4:38 am

P4.................................... Did i say that already.

parse27 · Post by **parse27** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 8:28 am

thanks guys..

GuyBull · Post by **GuyBull** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 1:28 pm

Parse, I'll throw my 2 cents in if you don't mind.

For the most bang for you bucks go AMD.
There is alot more to it but here is an idea.

$160 - Pentium 4 2.0GHz Sock 478

$94 - Athlon XP 2000

$162 - RDRAM 512MB

$93 PC2100 DDR 512MB

I wouldn't buy either one of the momery sticks above but an ide what I would buy: 512MB $126.89 Crucial CT6464Z265 DDR PC2100

Memory doesn't make that much difference between DDR and RD

Most Intel boards are using DDR.

E Man · Post by **E Man** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 4:19 pm

I'm with LT...AMDs have always done me good.

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 4:24 pm

Originally posted by GuyBull
Most Intel boards are using DDR.

Not True

GuyBull · Post by **GuyBull** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 7:49 pm

should have said "alot" of Intel boards are using DDR. Sorry.

I really would not know I haven't owned an Intel since the BH and 300A days.

There is nothing wrong with them that I know of. The last 4 years AMD has been good to me.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 8:05 pm

Originally posted by Hybridmonolith

WOW, never thought of you as a Intel man Norm. But i guess thats where the It Worked came from.

I buy Intel, and ASUS exclusively. Always have, always will, unless, or until one day either of them start making junk.

Don't take my preferrences as a slam on AMD or Abit/MSI. That's not what I'm saying. I just preferr to keep using what has always worked well for me.