Stealing bandwidth

Think · Post by **Think** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 1:58 pm

Simple question for you.

What is the danger of revealing your IP address?

In asking for an RWIN value, it is always mentioned to NOT reveal it when posting your test results.

Could someone steal bandwidth if they new the #?. After all, LAN connections such as my @home do not change the IP's at all or very rarely.

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 2:28 pm

The danger in revealing your IP is that you'll have half a world of hackers trying to gain access to your computer. It's unfortunate that you can't trust people, but that is the way the world is now a days. Your not stealing bandwidth at all. Your ISP limits what you get, and a larger RWIN will help you get the most in the shortest amount of time, therefore showing faster speeds then default settings.

Think · Post by **Think** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 2:40 pm

Originally posted by blebs99
The danger in revealing your IP is that you'll have half a world of hackers trying to gain access to your computer. It's unfortunate that you can't trust people, but that is the way the world is now a days. Your not stealing bandwidth at all. Your ISP limits what you get, and a larger RWIN will help you get the most in the shortest amount of time, therefore showing faster speeds then default settings.

DON"T THESE PEOPLE HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO?...get real jobs for pete sakes

Dakota · Post by **Dakota** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 3:15 pm

They're little electronic terrorists. Little bin Laden wannabes that get enjoyment screwing up other people's stuff and cry when someone else has better stuff than they do.

They have no life and never will. They will end up in jail with their new best friend, Bubba, who will want 'it' regularly.

MagicMikey · Post by **MagicMikey** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 3:50 pm

I don't want to sound intelligent but the real term for people who break in to other people's computers are called crackers. People always confuse the two and it upsets me sometimes as we're getting a bad reputation.

Hackers don't want a life and they do have real jobs. Maybe your system administrator at your office is a hacker and is making 6 times more than your salary...

Computers wouldn't be like it is today if it wasn't for hackers. Hell, forget the Internet!!!

A little respect

I'm going to be vague here. When a cracker gets a hold of your IP address, which is a lot easier than you think, they basically just scan that address for any open doors (ports) and walk right in.... of course, it isn't ALWAYS as easy as it sounds....

However, don't get paranoid about having your IP available to the public, there's no way to hide it! computers aren't perfect and never will be.....but let's just hope IPv6 will solve this problem...

EDIT - Forgot to mention that in a way, people, script kiddies in fact, can use some of your bandwidth but as long you scan your hard drive(s) for viruses and trojans....you'll be alright!

http://grc.com/dos/intro.htm

Think · Post by **Think** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 3:56 pm

.....but let's just hope IPv6 will solve this problem...

What's IPv6?

By the way, I don't value or respect a person because of his wealth, I judge them by there character.

If he's a rich or poor hacker who cares....there trouble makers.

Now if you're a hacker....I take it all back

A cracker?....thought that had to do with drug intake of choice, but thanks for the clarification.

MagicMikey · Post by **MagicMikey** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 4:13 pm

Heheheh...

It's just that you asked why don't they 'get real jobs for pete sakes'....well, they have excellent jobs!!

As for IPv6...

http://www.ipv6.org/

newbie69 · Post by **newbie69** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 11:03 pm

Originally posted by MagicMikey
I don't want to sound intelligent but the real term for people who break in to other people's computers are called crackers. People always confuse the two and it upsets me sometimes as we're getting a bad reputation.

Hackers don't want a life and they do have real jobs. Maybe your system administrator at your office is a hacker and is making 6 times more than your salary...

Computers wouldn't be like it is today if it wasn't for hackers. Hell, forget the Internet!!!

A little respect

I'm going to be vague here. When a cracker gets a hold of your IP address, which is a lot easier than you think, they basically just scan that address for any open doors (ports) and walk right in.... of course, it isn't ALWAYS as easy as it sounds....

However, don't get paranoid about having your IP available to the public, there's no way to hide it! computers aren't perfect and never will be.....but let's just hope IPv6 will solve this problem...

EDIT - Forgot to mention that in a way, people, script kiddies in fact, can use some of your bandwidth but as long you scan your hard drive(s) for viruses and trojans....you'll be alright!

http://grc.com/dos/intro.htm

don't bother trying to explain it....

touser3 · Post by **touser3** » Mon Oct 15, 2001 12:46 am

Originally posted by MagicMikey
Heheheh...

It's just that you asked why don't they 'get real jobs for pete sakes'....well, they have excellent jobs!!

As for IPv6...

http://www.ipv6.org/

very interesting..but i still fail to see what IPv6 does! can anyone please help me understand??

Croc · Post by **Croc** » Mon Oct 15, 2001 3:23 am

http://www.ietf.org/overview.html
Try this link, touser3

The site MagicMikey linked to needs a lot of time to go through and the link above is just one of those pages.

Maybe what is suggested here is the way the internet operates is being changed/updated and this group are responsible for that task.
Maybe ipv6 will give a more secure>safe>private internet environment.

Croc.

greEd · Post by **greEd** » Mon Oct 15, 2001 8:29 am

However, don't get paranoid about having your IP available to the public, there's no way to hide it! computers aren't perfect and never will be.....but let's just hope IPv6 will solve this problem...

This is not a flame I'm just confused ......
I believe the main focus of IPng is for expansion/growth and not so much in the security sector. As I see it the security inclusion in IPng will resemble that of IPv4, with minor improvements to encryption and authentication.

MagicMikey · Post by **MagicMikey** » Mon Oct 15, 2001 9:32 am

Originally posted by greEd

This is not a flame I'm just confused ......
I believe the main focus of IPng is for expansion/growth and not so much in the security sector. As I see it the security inclusion in IPng will resemble that of IPv4, with minor improvements to encryption and authentication.

yep....but let's just hope they do focuss on a few security factors...

It will take YEARS for IPv6 to be fully intergrated with each system....

Maliy · Post by **Maliy** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 2:07 pm

Originally posted by MagicMikey
I don't want to sound intelligent but the real term for people who break in to other people's computers are called crackers. People always confuse the two and it upsets me sometimes as we're getting a bad reputation.
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LOL

The media uses the word hacker to describe cracker. The cracker is a person who copy commercial software illegally by breaking (cracking) the various copy-protection and registration techniques being used.

MagicMikey · Post by **MagicMikey** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 4:20 pm

I know....

the media comes up with a lot of other false information too

newbie1 · Post by **newbie1** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 6:43 pm

yah, atleast some pc/security enthusiests know the true meaning