TV audio question

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:42 pm

Finally picked up a 55" flat screen TV.

I have my Blu-Ray video hooked up to the TV using s-video cable.

Have the Blu-Ray hooked up with RCA cables to my (old) stereo receiver and eventually the stereo speakers and sub-woofer.
Receiver does not have HDMI.

When I watch Blu-Ray, I get audio from the stereo speakers and sub.

When I watch Netflix or USB movies, I only get audio from the TV speakers.

Do I have options for streamed/USB audio besides a long RCA cable from the TV to the receiver?

I'm planning on getting an HDMI cable from the Blu-Ray to the TV to replace the S-video, but that will only carry sound and video to the TV, correct?

I'm wondering if the HDMI cable would carry audio to the Blu-Ray, then the Blu-Ray audio to the stereo via RCA.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:56 pm

Do I need an HDMI audio extractor?

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:10 pm

Guessing I can keep things the way they are and get long RCA cables from TV to receiver with a bit of sound degradation.

Get a TV>Blu-Ray HDMI and see if it carries the audio from the BR to receiver via RCA.

Get a TV>Blu-Ray HDMI and an HDMI digital to analog converter, and RCA cables.

Get a TV>Blu-Ray optical audio and an optical audio to analog converter, and RCA cables.

Any other suggestions appreciated.

Easto · Post by **Easto** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:38 am

Run HDMI from Blu-Ray > TV. Then, if the TV has a digital or optical out, I would run the TV's digital/optical out to your receiver's digital/optical in (if it has one). Even if it's an older model (receiver) it should have a coaxial digital in. Somewhere in a sub menu on your TV there should be the option to pick either the TV's internal speakers or the Receiver's.

if you need cables, buy from Monoprice.

Post by **Philip** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:56 pm

The issue is that with many sources, they only output audio via one "best" output, i.e. hdmi let's say in your case to the TV. That' why, if you don't have hdmi on the receiver, you'll have to get audio "monitor" out from the TV, as Easto suggests.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:58 pm

Easto wrote:Run HDMI from Blu-Ray > TV. Then, if the TV has a digital or optical out, I would run the TV's digital/optical out to your receiver's digital/optical in (if it has one). Even if it's an older model (receiver) it should have a coaxial digital in. Somewhere in a sub menu on your TV there should be the option to pick either the TV's internal speakers or the Receiver's.

if you need cables, buy from Monoprice.

Receiver does not have digital or optical in.

It has coaxial in, but no reference to digital. Talking 1993 Yamaha here.

The only coax on the TV is COAX in.

Only audio output is optical audio.

Thinking of getting a DAC Digital to Analog Converter, that would take the optical audio and convert it to RCA, but it looks like most of those don't even support 5.1.

F*ck it. Despite having 3 sets of speaks and 4 sub-woofers...should I just buy a damn sound bar?

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:02 am

The Blu-Ray player does have optical in/out.

If I had the Blu-Ray hooked to the TV via HDMI, and an optical audio cable from Blu-Ray to TV also...would the audio be transmitted from the TV>the Blu-Ray>the receiver RCA audio out?

Thanks.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:12 am

Recap...

New TV only has optical audio out.

Old receiver only has RCA and old school co-axial input.

Blu_Ray is hooked up to receiver via RCA and sounds good.

TV playing streaming or USB media is using TV speakers that suck.

Options for getting the TV audio to the receiver?

1) DAC Digital to Analog Converter

2) Some people say the Blu-Ray can receive and pass on the audio to the receiver...true?
If so, is that via HDMI or just the optical audio?

Thanks for the suggestions.

TonyT · Post by **TonyT** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:33 am

If get a new receiver be sure to get one with hdmi pass through. All devices would connect to the receiver via hdmi and the receiver's hdmi pass through port connects to the tv. The receiver will then pass all video and audio to the tv, and the tv will pass all audio through the receiver.
http://www.samsung.com/au/support/tv-au ... s-through/

Post by **Philip** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:03 am

Humboldt wrote:The Blu-Ray player does have optical in/out.

If I had the Blu-Ray hooked to the TV via HDMI, and an optical audio cable from Blu-Ray to TV also...would the audio be transmitted from the TV>the Blu-Ray>the receiver RCA audio out?

Thanks.

Doesn't the TV have RCA out? The Blu-Ray will not accept audio back in, just treat it as a source.

Easto · Post by **Easto** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:09 am

To be honest. I was in the same position as you about 2 years ago and is just said "screw it" and went to Best Buy and bought a new receiver that had all the connections I needed. I think it was under $200.

Htos1 · Post by **Htos1** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:32 pm

What Tony T said. The last a/v install I did had HDMI pass-through on the receiver, the audio system SHOULD be the base unit.

fastchevy · Post by **fastchevy** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:59 pm

Easto wrote:Run HDMI from Blu-Ray > TV. Then, if the TV has a digital or optical out, I would run the TV's digital/optical out to your receiver's digital/optical in (if it has one). Even if it's an older model (receiver) it should have a coaxial digital in. Somewhere in a sub menu on your TV there should be the option to pick either the TV's internal speakers or the Receiver's.

if you need cables, buy from Monoprice.

I'm doing this exact same thing with the exception that my audio out on my Sharp 65" is a 3.5mm audio out that splits to RCA jacks which plug into my Yamaha receiver (probably the same year as yours or very close). Sounds good too (because it's Yamaha)

Post by **Philip** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:43 pm

Yamaha receivers are great, I've had a couple as well. I did move over to an HDMI one a few years back though.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:01 am

TonyT wrote:If get a new receiver be sure to get one with hdmi pass through. All devices would connect to the receiver via hdmi and the receiver's hdmi pass through port connects to the tv. The receiver will then pass all video and audio to the tv, and the tv will pass all audio through the receiver.
http://www.samsung.com/au/support/tv-au ... s-through/

Love my receiver. Yamaha solid state.

Not the downhill audiophile... a $20 optical cable and DAC will work fine for me.

Does sound sweet though, no pun intended.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:02 am

Nope. Makes me feel old damnit.

Just optical audio out.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:04 am

Easto wrote:To be honest. I was in the same position as you about 2 years ago and is just said "screw it" and went to Best Buy and bought a new receiver that had all the connections I needed. I think it was under $200.

Tempting , but I love the one I have. History and all.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:05 am

fastchevy wrote:I'm doing this exact same thing with the exception that my audio out on my Sharp 65" is a 3.5mm audio out that splits to RCA jacks which plug into my Yamaha receiver (probably the same year as yours or very close). Sounds good too (because it's Yamaha)

Easto · Post by **Easto** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:24 pm

Humboldt wrote:Tempting , but I love the one I have. History and all.

I understand. I have several pieces of audio gear that my wife can't figure out why I'm still hanging onto them. But honestly, move that gear into a bedroom or den and use the new stuff with the TV. It gives you a reason to go out and purchase new gear! Check CL, you can get a HDMI enabled receiver for nothing.

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:26 pm

I bought a really nice Yamaha RX in 1994 while living in Japan. I used it for home theater until it drove me nuts! It is now in the basement with a TV and turntable connected. After 24 years, it still sounds terrific, but I needed those HDMI and pass-through due to cable box, chromecast, firestick, Blu-ray, etc.. Bought a $249 Denon and it works great.

Post by **Philip** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:38 pm

I like Yamaha a bit better than Denon, they just sound better to me, maybe because of better DACs imho.

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:37 pm

Philip wrote:I like Yamaha a bit better than Denon, they just sound better to me, maybe because of better DACs imho.

Me too, but can't afford the Yamahas I want. My 24 year old Yamaha sounds leaps and bounds better than my Denon for music.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:02 pm

Ended up with an digitaol optical audio cable>DAC box.

Sounds fine, hell of a lot better than the TV speakers at least.

Thanks for the help guys.

Easto · Post by **Easto** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:52 am

Humboldt wrote:
Sounds fine, hell of a lot better than the TV speakers at least.

Nowadays, with all the advancements in movie sound reproduction 2.1, 5.1 7.1 etc, you can really make watching a movie at home a real experience. At times it can be deceiving. I remember when I had my surround system working, you would sit there thinking that maybe I spent a little too much money or went a little overboard and not really notice what the system is bringing to the table. Then, turn off the surround speakers, center speaker and woofer and the difference is staggering.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:02 am

Easto wrote:Nowadays, with all the advancements in movie sound reproduction 2.1, 5.1 7.1 etc, you can really make watching a movie at home a real experience. At times it can be deceiving. I remember when I had my surround system working, you would sit there thinking that maybe I spent a little too much money or went a little overboard and not really notice what the system is bringing to the table. Then, turn off the surround speakers, center speaker and woofer and the difference is staggering.

I know, and thank you.

I'm no downhill.

Having this big ass TV, I've spent a lot more than the previous 2 hours per-year in the living room in the past week.

To me, sounds fine, I'm happy.

I'll keep it in mind though, I do love my movies loud, and good surround is awesome.

Better the sound the better the movie, maybe I've just heard too much bad surround sound.

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:53 am

The last actual T.V. I owned was I think 15 inches, when I was still a kid. I paid for it with a summer job and used it to play video games in my room. I can't imagine what those 8-bit games would look like on 55 inches, with surround sound, but I bet it would be awesome.