What the heck..

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:51 pm

Why is it OK to viciously bully the President of Chick-Fil-A & his company for stating his honest opinions? Are we not ALL free to have personal beliefs anymore? "Hey, let's not eat their chicken because they are different" Hypocrisy if I've ever seen it. I've read numerous pages about this family and their business and they sure appear to be some down to earth, honest, genuine folks who have a great business and treat their employes very well.
I guess the next step might be to call any married heterosexuals intolerant & meanies.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:06 pm

Had to look around to figure out what you're talking about.

That done, I see no point in bullying anyone for their personal beliefs and disagree he should be a target. As you state, everyone has a right to their opinions.

I have no problem with people boycotting his business though.

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:52 pm

Leatherneck wrote:Hypocrisy if I've ever seen it.
I guess the next step might be to call any married heterosexuals intolerant & meanies.

True story,

My GF stopped eating there, But I still make the 1.5 hour drive when I have a craving! NO ONE WILL EVER TAKE MY CHICK-FIL-A FROM ME!

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:46 pm

So I'll assume the owner is anti gay. Probably not great for business but oh well, non story to me. Did someone get kicked out of a Chick Fil A or something?

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:03 am

YARDofSTUF wrote:So I'll assume the owner is anti gay. Probably not great for business but oh well, non story to me. Did someone get kicked out of a Chick Fil A or something?

No one has ever been discriminated against, kicked out or otherwise harassed. This came about from an interview where the owner said he believes marriage is a bond between one man and one woman. They bullied this man and his business for simply stating his principles. Just irks me that the very group who claims to be the subject of continual bullying and ridicule would even waste time attacking a Christian who actual holds Christian beliefs. I guess they drive on a one way street.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:04 am

Never heard of that chain.....never seen one. Had to Google to see what Chik Fil A was.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:12 am

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Never heard of that chain.....never seen one. Had to Google to see what Chik Fil A was.

they have really good milkshakes

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:53 am

Leatherneck wrote:No one has ever been discriminated against, kicked out or otherwise harassed. This came about from an interview where the owner said he believes marriage is a bond between one man and one woman. They bullied this man and his business for simply stating his principles. Just irks me that the very group who claims to be the subject of continual bullying and ridicule would even waste time attacking a Christian who actual holds Christian beliefs. I guess they drive on a one way street.

I googled a bit and found that they donate to some organizations that have been labeled "anti gay" so I would assume thats where the hate is coming from. Its just something thats gonna happen when you have 2 groups with opposite views like that.

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:27 am

Leatherneck wrote:No one has ever been discriminated against, kicked out or otherwise harassed. This came about from an interview where the owner said he believes marriage is a bond between one man and one woman. They bullied this man and his business for simply stating his principles. Just irks me that the very group who claims to be the subject of continual bullying and ridicule would even waste time attacking a Christian who actual holds Christian beliefs. I guess they drive on a one way street.

Didn't you get the memo? You are no longer allowed to have traditional faith or values. You must bow to the collective. The mere mention of God brings on the hate mongers. Personally, I agree with owner and his families beliefs and I hope he stands firm in his convictions. Far too many people want unacceptable behaviors to be acceptable. By acceptable, I mean by the law of the bible. I already know that isn't going to be a popular statement for many on this very forum.

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:20 am

blebs wrote: You must bow to the collective. The mere mention of God brings on the hate mongers..

OK here are my demands and if they are not met then I will spend my entire life trying to convince the world that they are the root of all evil.

-I want little kids in elementary school taught that they have a 50/50 chance at being gay or straight and either way is 100% "normal".

-I also want little kids caught praying over their PB&J sandwich flogged in the auditorium, but not too hard and with those cute little whips that my boyfriend uses...

-I want to be able to choose whether I work for a living or live off other people's sweat because most of them are greedy, meanies anyway who won't give us a publicly funded chicken sandwich

-I still want "In God We Trust" taken off currency because I sure don't trust him. My friend got the clap even though he washed his pee pee. What kind of God is that?

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:52 pm

blebs wrote:Didn't you get the memo? You are no longer allowed to have traditional faith or values. You must bow to the collective. The mere mention of God brings on the hate mongers. Personally, I agree with owner and his families beliefs and I hope he stands firm in his convictions. Far too many people want unacceptable behaviors to be acceptable. By acceptable, I mean by the law of the bible. I already know that isn't going to be a popular statement for many on this very forum.

I don't think there should be a law to try and change the bible's stance on gay marriage, but I do think gays should be allowed to be married by the state, like a civil union.

Some compromise needs to be made and I can't see various religions changing their ancient scriptures.

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:06 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Never heard of that chain.....never seen one. Had to Google to see what Chik Fil A was.

Cat your missing out, I discovered them in PA when i went down there for the first time a few month's ago. Now its all I eat when I go down there. Then I found one in Mass, So I drive up there sometimes with some friends. Amazing amazing sandwiches! I usually grab a chicken nugget platter and eat ti on the way back

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:16 pm

Another thing they have always been ridiculed for is not being open on Sundays. The Cathy family wants folks to have the "choice" to go to church on Sunday and many mall owners and patrons have voiced disgust over this. Good grief there are so many other places to stuff your pie hole....

SlyOneDoofy · Post by **SlyOneDoofy** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:10 pm

Being "politically correct" is like trying to pick up a terd by the clean end.

My mind says "marriage" is a bond between a man and a woman. You can make civil unions or whatever you want to call them and have the same rights as married folk but I disagree with changing the definition.

I guess I'm not "progressive" enough. But we got here supposedly through Adam and Eve...not Adam and Steve.

Which makes me think...how is there a gay population if they don't breed? Must be social influence. I disagree with teaching it's ok to be gay by anyone else than parents. If, they choose that it's ok. But it's my right and privilage to teach my children proper morals.

I don't care what you do with your life. It's not my concern until you press your "ways" upon my and my children making them think it's normal behavior.

I know this isn't PC and I appoligize if I have offended any buttdarts or carpet munchers.

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:38 pm

My one rule of business is do not eliminate customers. If I sold records, books, chicken or anything the last thing I would do is piss off someone buying my wares. Donna Summer made that mistake when she found religion and denounced gays. The number 1 purchaser of her music was gay men. There is a lesson there somewhere.

SlyOneDoofy · Post by **SlyOneDoofy** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:54 pm

Lefty wrote:My one rule of business is do not eliminate customers. If I sold records, books, chicken or anything the last thing I would do is piss off someone buying my wares. Donna Summer made that mistake when she found religion and denounced gays. The number 1 purchaser of her music was gay men. There is a lesson there somewhere.

Is the lesson money is more important than morals?

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:03 pm

SlyOneDoofy wrote:Is the lesson money is more important than morals?

Morals is not the issue here. When in business it comes down to the bottom line. It happens that someone used their position in life to bring up politics. If John Doe said it no one would be talking about it.

SlyOneDoofy · Post by **SlyOneDoofy** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:08 pm

I understand what you are saying. I'm just trying to figure out when morals should trump money.

Stupid business decision. But, when do morals trump money? I mean everyone yells at wall street, corporations, etc...

Think of it this way...If I write a song..and people buy it because it makes them want to drink alcohol and it has huge sales and I dislike the fact that people get drunk on alcohol should I voice my opinion? Unless I wrote the song for that specific intent.

Kinda the same thing.

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:59 pm

Lefty wrote:My one rule of business is do not eliminate customers. If I sold records, books, chicken or anything the last thing I would do is piss off someone buying my wares. Donna Summer made that mistake when she found religion and denounced gays. The number 1 purchaser of her music was gay men. There is a lesson there somewhere.

No doubt a business must do what it takes to profit but Chick-Fi-La has had the same business model forever and they sure sell some chicken! 39 states, over 1600 stores and sponsor of collegiate bowls. They are also a very big contributor to many charities. Works for them even if Doogie Howser switches to tacos.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:06 pm

SlyOneDoofy wrote:I guess I'm not "progressive" enough. But we got here supposedly through Adam and Eve...not Adam and Steve.

Man, that would be one hell of a translation error.

RaisinCain · Post by **RaisinCain** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:00 pm

Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel. They both had children- where the hell did the wives come from?

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:19 pm

RaisinCain wrote:Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel. They both had children- where the hell did the wives come from?

This can surely be puzzling but easily explained. Adam & Eve had many Son's & Daughters and while it seems "unnatural" to marry a sibling, at that time if we are to believe the scriptures the human race was genetically pure and strong resulting in completely normal generations.

SlyOneDoofy · Post by **SlyOneDoofy** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:27 pm

And then with Noah and the ark and his family....are we twice inbred?

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:44 pm

SlyOneDoofy wrote:And then with Noah and the ark and his family....are we twice inbred?

Can you explain our increasing stupidity any other way?

SlyOneDoofy · Post by **SlyOneDoofy** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:06 pm

I could..but you wouldn't like the answer.

Mad_Haggis · Post by **Mad_Haggis** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:51 pm

Leatherneck wrote:Why is it OK to viciously bully the President of Chick-Fil-A & his company for stating his honest opinions? Are we not ALL free to have personal beliefs anymore? "Hey, let's not eat their chicken because they are different" Hypocrisy if I've ever seen it. I've read numerous pages about this family and their business and they sure appear to be some down to earth, honest, genuine folks who have a great business and treat their employes very well.
I guess the next step might be to call any married heterosexuals intolerant & meanies.

Why has the price of chicken gone up?, corn crops feed chickens?, look to your local peuvarior?...I bet you 50 bucks I spelt that wrong, for the answer to your question?
Me,
Myself, and, I,
We look to the price of Beer,
and, tobacco,
crazy country Canada,
Drought?
Crops?

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Yoigo · Post by **Yoigo** » Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:04 am

How about within your familiy? Would your number one rule be not to "eliminate" relatives with either your active or passive behaviour? How'bout that?

Yoigo · Post by **Yoigo** » Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:10 am

Lefty wrote:Morals is not the issue here. When in business it comes down to the bottom line. It happens that someone used their position in life to bring up politics. If John Doe said it no one would be talking about it.

How'bout morals when you lost, not money, but a very close relative or friend because of your deeds?

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:40 am

YARDofSTUF wrote:I don't think there should be a law to try and change the bible's stance on gay marriage, but I do think gays should be allowed to be married by the state, like a civil union.

Some compromise needs to be made and I can't see various religions changing their ancient scriptures.

We can't change the gays, so even as much as I hate to say it, yes, some sort of compromise has to be made. I don't agree with it, but we have to live with it. Civil Union with the rights privileges of married persons, for all legal purposes, I guess is what should be done. Again, this is totally against my moral and religious beliefs, but that's me.

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:52 am

I totally agree with Truett Cathy, a marriage is between and man and a woman.... but that's his opinion as well as mine. We all are entitled to our opinions and should not be discriminated for them, he never stated he doesn't hire gay people or even dislikes them, he simply stated his beliefs about marriage. When I read that politicians said they would block him from building a Chik-fil-a in their cities it floored me..... discrimination at it's best, they have since backed off their statements because they realized it was illegal to do such a thing.

YOSC you don't know what your missing.

Paft · Post by **Paft** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:00 am

I'll still eat there. Funny thing: By boycotting a company, you're not just hurting the owner. Regardless of how you feel about the owner's politics (and I'll come right out and say I strongly disagree with him and his beliefs), when you boycott a company, you are impacting every employee that works there. The little guy, who might not give a **** one way or another about homosexual marriage or the presidency or any of that - the person who scrapes by, paycheck to paycheck. Or as recently coined, the "99%" (ugh). These people might be your friends and neighbors - it makes no sense to screw them for a political statement.

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:36 pm

I think this about covers it.

SlyOneDoofy · Post by **SlyOneDoofy** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:05 pm

blebs wrote:i think this about covers it.

yup.

loop2kil · Post by **loop2kil** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:52 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Never heard of that chain.....never seen one. Had to Google to see what Chik Fil A was.

You have certainly missed out my friend...I catch lunch there at least twice a week

BMED · Post by **BMED** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:21 pm

Chick-Fil-A = Gaycist! Who cares! I would still be a patron if there was one aound here...

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:12 am

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:32 am

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:25 pm

Inb4, "Chick-Fil-A planned this to boost sales"

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:22 pm