The next President?

JC · Post by JC » Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:02 pm

A good video I think everyone should watch

http://www.viddler.com/explore/rightscoop/videos/22/

David · Post by **David** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:57 pm

Where was he in 2000 and 2004?

Sarahnn · Post by **Sarahnn** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:11 pm

Look out Steele!

JC · Post by JC » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:12 pm

David wrote:Where was he in 2000 and 2004?

Don't know where he was. Wish he was in politics back then tho. Better late than never I guess.

David · Post by **David** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:07 am

JC wrote:Don't know where he was. Wish he was in politics back then tho. Better late than never I guess.

Fair enough, but would he have delivered his pro Constitutional rhetoric in the face of the Patriot Act? Perhaps he did. My thoughts lie with the reason for the GOP removal from power.

"Liberals" wish to build great things, for the common good. It is the thought that our government that can collect our efforts and acheive. If the state is the enemy, no party affiliation will save its people.

Paft · Post by **Paft** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:17 pm

David wrote:"Liberals" wish to build great things, for the common good. It is the thought that our government that can collect our efforts and acheive. If the state is the enemy, no party affiliation will save its people.

There's a delicate balance between the State being the enemy, and the State being the tool to progress with, however. The leaders elected to their positions are still human beings with their own idealologies, and there will never be one leader who can please everyone. Knowing that, progress can only be achieved by keeping a watchful eye on those elected leaders and not being afraid to call them out on their failures. Regardless of party, platform, or state of the world.

David · Post by **David** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:43 pm

Paft wrote:There's a delicate balance between the State being the enemy, and the State being the tool to progress with, however. The leaders elected to their positions are still human beings with their own idealologies, and there will never be one leader who can please everyone. Knowing that, progress can only be achieved by keeping a watchful eye on those elected leaders and not being afraid to call them out on their failures. Regardless of party, platform, or state of the world.

The "balance" is in perception. Ideologies be damned, it is corruption, the waste and manipulation of our leadership that has given many of those who would see a smaller government. While some curse Washington and federal taxes, others watch local law enforcement badger the populace with coffer filling fines. In NJ, it may become unlawful to be 17 years of age.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:32 pm

Can anyone be better than our new savior??

David · Post by **David** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:39 pm

Sava700 wrote:Can anyone be better than our new savior??

Rather interesting. If you watched the video JC linked, the orator stressed the liberals ad hominem affronts of the tea party and conservatives. I wonder if Herman Cain spends any time on the internet?

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:00 pm

No, the next president will come from a pre-vetted pool of banker-approved corporatists. Romney, the original implementer of the much-maligned health care mandate, will likely be the GOP's man.

Whomever gets elected is nigh on irrelevant anymore. They're Janusian relics of the establishment, two paths to the same slaughterhouse.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:47 pm

Burke wrote:No, the next president will come from a pre-vetted pool of banker-approved corporatists. Romney, the original implementer of the much-maligned health care mandate, will likely be the GOP's man.

Whomever gets elected is nigh on irrelevant anymore. They're Janusian relics of the establishment, two paths to the same slaughterhouse.

Didn't your boy, ole Ron Paul get high marks here recently in some poll? He is looking pretty good here lately compared to others.

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:41 am

Burke wrote:No, the next president will come from a pre-vetted pool of banker-approved corporatists. Romney, the original implementer of the much-maligned health care mandate, will likely be the GOP's man.

Whomever gets elected is nigh on irrelevant anymore. They're Janusian relics of the establishment, two paths to the same slaughterhouse.

Well, aren't you just a ray of sunshine.

Qwijib0 · Post by **Qwijib0** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:26 pm

Sava700 wrote:Can anyone be better than our new savior??

God I hope you fools run palin against him.

There's no way 50% of the country would _EVER_ vote for her.

SlyOneDoofy · Post by **SlyOneDoofy** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:08 am

Qwijib0 wrote:God I hope you fools run palin against him.

There's no way 50% of the country would _EVER_ vote for her.

I agree it would be foolish for the GOP to have Palin run for president.

The one thing about her that rubs me wrong is that she stepped down as governor of Alaska.

Yes, things got tough for her but I have to envision her as president and wonder if the same thing would happen. I find it a flaw in her character which can't be fixed.

There are better choices and a second term for Obama would probably be worse than Palin as president.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:23 am

Qwijib0 wrote:God I hope you fools run palin against him.

There's no way 50% of the country would _EVER_ vote for her.

She won't win the Republican nomination because she couldn't garner the independent vote. Republicans would be insane to nominate her. Doing so would guarantee a second term for President Obama.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:58 am

Qwijib0 wrote:God I hope you fools run palin against him.

There's no way 50% of the country would _EVER_ vote for her.

Oh but she is like holy water to a demon possessed libtard, watching the spastic convultions from them at the mentioning of her name is hilarity!

Let alone talk of "Sahra Palin 2012" around them and they go into writhing consternations.

With barrys continually dropping approval rate, (even after the bump he got after passing the health care abortion, oh wait, what bump?:rotfl

, the Neocons could rerun Bush and wipe the floor with ol' barry.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:20 am

Xpunge wrote:Oh but she is like holy water to a demon possessed libtard, watching the spastic convultions from them at the mentioning of her name is hilarity!

Let alone talk of "Sahra Palin 2012" around them and they go into writhing consternations.

With barrys continually dropping approval rate, (even after the bump he got after passing the health care abortion, oh wait, what bump?:rotfl , the Neocons could rerun Bush and wipe the floor with ol' barry.

There is no way at all you are a registered democrat. In your entire time here you have said literally nothing to suggest you are anything other then a die-hard Republican.

As for Palin she has absolutely no shot. Even the most die-hard Republican on here other then maybe yourself and one other that I am aware of thinks she would even be a good and competent President much less become one. President Bush who got his fair share of stupidity claims thrown against him is a genius of massive proportions compared to Palin.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:26 am

Roody wrote:There is no way at all you are a registered democrat. In your entire time here you have said literally nothing to suggest you are anything other then a die-hard Republican.

.

...and why is it so important for you to assign labels to member and posters on this forum? what is it your trying to game by this? and who the FU** are you to tell me who I am. what a fta

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:32 am

Xpunge wrote:...and why is it so important for you to assign labels to member and posters on this forum? what is it your trying to game by this? and who the FU** are you to tell me who I am. what a fta

I'm someone who is saying that your claim of being a registered Democrat is in no way backed up by your posting history and that's a fact. Without a doubt you know this also and will resort to some kind of diversionary tactic to move away from that. I'm also saying that Palin would have no shot at all.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:34 am

Roody wrote:I'm someone who is saying that your claim of being a registered Democrat is in no way backed up by your posting history and that's a fact.

I never claimed I am registered democract. I am registered decline to declare after leaving the California democrat party.

we've been through this already you and I, are you drunk? or just have a short memory problem?

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:38 am

Xpunge wrote:I never claimed I am registered democract. I am registered decline to declare after leaving the California democrat party.

we've been through this already you and I, are you drunk? or just have a short memory problem?

You were saying?

http://forums.speedguide.net/showpost.p ... stcount=23

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:39 am

Roody wrote:You were saying?

post link to thread and lets have a looky at the rest of the convo, hmmmmm!

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:40 am

Xpunge wrote:post link to thread and lets have a looky at the rest of the convo, hmmmmm!

BS you claimed you were a registered Democrat. That's a fact. Try and sell your lies elsewhere.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:42 am

Roody wrote:BS you claimed you were a registered Democrat. That's a fact. Try and sell your lies elsewhere.

you wont post the link because you know where the convo went EOS your bullcrap doesnt fly...

i'll do it for you.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:50 am

Roody wrote:BS you claimed you were a registered Democrat. That's a fact. Try and sell your lies elsewhere.

AHAHAhaHHAahah, you conveniently cut off the screen cap from post 24 on from that thread! you HAVE A AGENDA here and you fail miserably!

what a dope!

https://www.speedguide.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=268092

post 24 on takes care of this stupidity!

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:58 am

You got caught in a lie and now attempt to pass off your remark by pointing elsewhere. Nice try but it doesn't cut it.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:59 am

really sad that you try to utilize your position to push your agenda, thats all it could be considering your preparations, attempts and such to paint individuals on this forum, you've had to make apologies to sava due to your attacks on him in the past that were unbecoming of a moderator.

and the there are those that post and wonder why people are leaving this forum.

sad really.

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:03 am

Xpunge wrote:I never claimed I am registered democract. I am registered decline to declare after leaving the California democrat party.

we've been through this already you and I, are you drunk? or just have a short memory problem?

You said, "I have been a registered Democrat my entire adult life.", if there is some confusion over this then it is your own fault for not be very clear. But, regardless, there is no need to jump down Roody's throat like that you are completely overacting.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:05 am

Roody wrote:You got caught in a lie and now attempt to pass off your remark by pointing elsewhere. Nice try but it doesn't cut it.

Keep trying, you cut the screen cap off at post 23 for a reason, you originally just posted the screen cap (with no link to the thread so others could read and make up their own minds the entire thread and see where it went), sad, really sad.

then you edited your post to include just a link to post 23 only and not the entire thread, sad really.

this is fantastic failure at its best!

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:06 am

Xpunge wrote:really sad that you try to utilize your position to push your agenda, thats all it could be considering your preparations, attempts and such to paint individuals on this forum, you've had to make apologies to sava due to your attacks on him in the past that were unbecoming of a moderator.

and the there are those that post and wonder why people are leaving this forum.

sad really.

"and the there are those that post and wonder why people are leaving this forum."

People leave because of attitudes likes your's, Xpunge, not because of Roody.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:07 am

jeremyboycool wrote:You said, "I have been a registered Democrat my entire adult life.", if there is some confusion over this then it is your own fault for not be very clear. But, regardless, there is no need to jump down Roody's throat like that you are completely overacting.

did you read the entire thread where I made it clear? or did you take Roody "the agenda" screen cap as all there was?

Fantastic!!

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:08 am

A moderator is allowed to call BS and I did when you got caught in a lie. You are right I did apologize to sava because that's the thing to do when someone is wrong. You got caught showing that you did admit to being a dem. You can at least admit you were wrong there also otherwise you got no room to lecture me.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:10 am

Roody wrote:A moderator is allowed to call BS and I did when you got caught in a lie. You are right I did apologize to sava because that's the thing to do when someone is wrong. You got caught showing that you did admit to being a dem. You can at least admit you were wrong there also otherwise you got no room to lecture me.

Post screen caps to post 24, 25 et al

EOS

your agenda is failure.

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:11 am

Xpunge wrote:did you read the entire thread where I made it clear? or did you take Roody "the agenda" screen cap as all there was?

Fantastic!!

I read the entire thread, Xpunge, when it was first created and then a few minutes ago.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:12 am

Roody wrote:A moderator is allowed to call BS and I did when you got caught in a lie. You are right I did apologize to sava because that's the thing to do when someone is wrong. You got caught showing that you did admit to being a dem. You can at least admit you were wrong there also otherwise you got no room to lecture me.

Heck, just post a link to post 24 and 25 of that thread, post a link to the thread itself, try to look impartial....

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:17 am

Xpunge wrote:

Heck, just post a link to post 24 and 25 of that thread, post a link to the thread itself, try to look impartial....

"post a link to the thread itself"

Xpunge, the link to the thread is in the link he posted, as is the case any time you link a singular post on Speedguide.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:23 am

jeremyboycool wrote:"post a link to the thread itself"

Xpunge, the link to the thread is in the link he posted, as is the case any time you link a singular post on Speedguide.

His link goes to a singular post, not the entire thread, Roody "the agenda" failed in his attempt.

Please stop with the sucking up, it unbecoming, your choice.

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:24 am

Xpunge wrote:His link goes to a singular post, not the entire thread, Roody "the agenda" failed in his attempt.

Please stop with the sucking up, it unbecoming, your choice.

"His link goes to a singular post, not the entire thread, Roody "the agenda" failed in his attempt."

Learn how to read.

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:26 am

Xpunge wrote:His link goes to a singular post, not the entire thread, Roody "the agenda" failed in his attempt.

Please stop with the sucking up, it unbecoming, your choice.

"Please stop with the sucking up, it unbecoming, your choice."

Trust me, Xpunge, I am not worried about impressing anyone here.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:30 am

jeremyboycool wrote: Trust me, Xpunge, I am not worried about impressing anyone here.

Now here is some genuine funny!