It was only a matter of time

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:45 pm

Window 7 ultimate RC on a 3.00 ghz with 3 Gb of memory. The install went smooth.

I think that antivirus that I use broke IE 8 however.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:48 pm

bunch of new builds out now... I'm downloading 7229 right now and I think I saw somewhere 7232 leaked also.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:49 pm

This is 7100 I think. I got it from the helpdesk guy.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:55 pm

CableDude wrote:This is 7100 I think. I got it from the helpdesk guy.

torrent one of the newer builds and go with them...just pest check it first and your RC key will work with them. those two that I listed are rumored to be the last till it hits RTM which is possible to be very very soon!

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:57 pm

Sava700 wrote:torrent one of the newer builds and go with them...just pest check it first and your RC key will work with them. those two that I listed are rumored to be the last till it hits RTM which is possible to be very very soon!

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:58 pm

I do not recommend running a torrent of Win7, it has been reported that trojans have been built into some. I would stick with official 7100 release from MS.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:59 pm

I would love to know what killed IE 8

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:00 pm

Brent wrote:I do not recommend running a torrent of Win7, it has been reported that trojans have been built into some. I would stick with official 7100 release from MS.

yeah its been reported but if you find the right locations to get it you won't have any problems. Best to check around with others who've gotten it this way to make sure but I've done this with many many builds over the RC from MS and never had a issue yet.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:00 pm

CableDude wrote:I would love to know what killed IE 8

reinstall it

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:03 pm

Sava700 wrote:reinstall it

Yeah hopefully I can mess around tomorrow.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:04 pm

I can't stand IE 8.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:14 pm

I've taken a liking to Opera 10 and FF 3.5. I'm using FF 3.5 Preview as my primary browser now.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:14 pm

CableDude wrote:I would love to know what killed IE 8

What antivirus?

Are you sure it was the AV?

What is IE8 doing that makes you think its broken?

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:40 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:I can't stand IE 8.

i like it, its x feature to remove visited sites in the address bar is what FF needs.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:09 pm

Sava700 wrote:i like it, its x feature to remove visited sites in the address bar is what FF needs.

There are a lot of history options with FF:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1306

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/8631

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1052

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1484

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:09 pm

Brent wrote:What antivirus?

Are you sure it was the AV?

What is IE8 doing that makes you think its broken?

Sophos picked up a file and quarantined it

When I click on the IE 8 icon nothing launches.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:19 pm

CableDude wrote:Sophos picked up a file and quarantined it

When I click on the IE 8 icon nothing launches.

did you catch what file it was?

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:27 pm

Brent wrote:did you catch what file it was?

I can let you know tomorrow.

Ashdaw · Post by **Ashdaw** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:02 am

Use FF CD. I have 7201 build of Win7 (waiting for 64bit 7230) Never had ANY trouble with using Win 7 and I used torrent to get it, you just have to get it from a trusted source.

I love using Win 7 and I also have Ubuntu 9.04 and Windows Server 2008 R2.

Hope it all gets sorted for you.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:25 am

Brent wrote:I do not recommend running a torrent of Win7, it has been reported that trojans have been built into some. I would stick with official 7100 release from MS.

And scanning the download which is an installer or ISO for a program won't be very effective of finding the setup/installers for a backdoor bot if it's been packed into the installers. Even after the OS is installed...scanning won't prove much, it can have code embedded in there to download stuff "later"..like in a month or two, and turn into some netbot.

A verrrrry popular method to build an army of netbots.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:02 am

CableDude wrote:Window 7 ultimate RC on a 3.00 ghz with 3 Gb of memory. The install went smooth.

Out of boredom while putzing around the office today, cleaning up...have a leftover Dell Optiplex GX280 (one of those ultra mini small form factor desktops)
Pentium 4 HyperThread 2.8GHz, 2 gigs of RAM. Starting the install (including deleting existing partitions and formatting) at 0950.

Just to see how it will run on an older slower rig with crummy onboard video.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:19 am

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Out of boredom while putzing around the office today, cleaning up...have a leftover Dell Optiplex GX280 (one of those ultra mini small form factor desktops)
Pentium 4 HyperThread 2.8GHz, 2 gigs of RAM. Starting the install (including deleting existing partitions and formatting) at 0950.

Just to see how it will run on an older slower rig with crummy onboard video.

Do report your feedback on install time, ease, and performance on that system.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:23 am

Brent wrote:Do report your feedback on install time, ease, and performance on that system.

I just got caught up finalizing a Dell order for a buncha workstations going to Vermont.....turned to look at it..and it was waiting at the finalizing prompts...enter username, password, install key, time zone, etc. So 30 minutes right now, but I don't know how many minutes it had been sitting at that prompt waiting for me.

So less than 30 minutes..on that older system. Pretty darned good.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:31 am

Cold bootup to login prompt....38 seconds..and typing in password to usable responsive desktop, adds 10 more seconds.

Everything in Device Mangler correctly identified and installed right out of the box. (or CD

)

Response of menus, control panel, start==>programs menu, Internet Explorer...I have to say it feels just as zippy as a fresh install of XP.

And superfetch hasn't had a week or two to optimize the file system yet.

Fun experiment. Putting Vista on older generation P4s didn't yield the zippiest of systems.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:37 am

Very nice, one thing I love about Win7 is the included driver support. I had 3D hardware acceleration out of the box with the RC release, Aero, WDDM 1.1 driver, sound driver, all of it. I did go ahead and download and install the latest sound drivers for my audio chipset, and that is it really, everything was detected and working upon initial install. My total installation time was about 30 minutes from a clean install. You can run the Performance Index tool, and that will help Windows figure out how best to manage Aero on your system for performance.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:40 am

Yeah...the built in driver library (and even through Microsoft Update) is growing substantially.

The habit that us IT people will have to try to break, is not trusting Microsoft Updates....due to how it could screw up systems in the past.

I can't count how many times I've seen the updates tank a system with nVidia graphics....when you download that drivers through updates, reboot...and you're greeted with a safe mode looking desktop. Had to go add/remove, yank it, reboot....then get the drivers from nVidia.

Also have seen a lot of PCs and Servers get their Intel NIC drivers tanked from updates. (which made for painful times when doing remote work on servers...only took that happening once to stop doing NIC updates remotely)

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:42 am

New in windows updates for me was the LCD INF driver for my Dell 2007wfp and 3007wfp displays. In the past, in Vista, I had to go download it manually, or go into monitor properties and let it scan for new drivers. In Win7 it showed up in Windows Updates and I could just install it from there, that was welcome.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:06 am

Brent wrote:New in windows updates for me was the LCD INF driver for my Dell 2007wfp and 3007wfp displays. In the past, in Vista, I had to go download it manually,

I had that in Vista 64....with my pair of Acer 19 wides.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:46 am

I've been running it as my primary OS for about a month. The only issues I've had are my wireless will go to sleep after an extended period of non-use, and the memory usage while "idle" seems to creep up over time.

Other than that, it's been very stable. Everything I run seems to work fine, and all hardware was detected right off the bat.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:38 pm

Go into power savings and change the power profile, you can individually select what components do at idle, or just select High Performance and everything will remain on at full power

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:59 pm

virus found in file: c:\windows\system32\drivers\i8042prt.sys

The helpdesk guy and I believe this is a false positive

I found out what killed IE8. It was an add-on from Sophos.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:01 pm

I've been able to get P4's to install XP in very short amounts of time...I'm sure Win7 would go alot faster seeing the installs I've gone through so far with it. The latest build 7229 loaded and runs alot better than the RC by the way.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:04 pm

CableDude wrote:virus found in file: c:\windows\system32\drivers\i8042prt.sys

The helpdesk guy and I believe this is a false positive

I found out what killed IE8. It was an add-on from Sophos.

googling says it is a keyboard and ps/2 mouse port driver

some AVs haven't been updated yet for Win7 to recognize what is a virus and what isn't

i haven't had any problems with NOD32, latest version

most likely the add-on from sophos hasn't been updated to work with ie8/win7 yet

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:22 pm

This install only took around 15 minutes. It does not seem to have a problem with the integrated video either.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:54 pm

Am I correct in that you can not change the start menu to "classic" in Windows 7?

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:08 pm

CableDude wrote:Am I correct in that you can not change the start menu to "classic" in Windows 7?

correct, no way in the RC, don't know if the option will be there in the final build

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:11 pm

Latest leaked build, 7229 I believe, fixed an issue I was having with my HTPC and a legacy external USB soundboard. I had to use hacked drivers to get it to work with Vista and now 7. Latest build finally supports it and sees it as a Dolbly Digital/DTS device! Sweet!!!

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:15 am

7231 is the latest leaked build