Bush is a hypocrite and an idiot...

Blisster · Post by **Blisster** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:24 am

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just read any 'national' news site. What a ****ing idiot

Randy · Post by **Randy** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:30 am

who did you vote for?

vc_wannabe · Post by **vc_wannabe** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:37 am

I don't get it...

Jamie_R · Post by **Jamie_R** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:51 am

Blisster wrote:...

just read any 'national' news site. What a ****ing idiot

dude ... you're just now coming to this realization?

well, better late than never ... I agree 110%.

Addict · Post by **Addict** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:01 am

Blisster wrote:just read any 'national' news site. What a ****ing idiot

What is a 'national' news site? As far as I recall, we don't have any government run 'national' news sites. That's the type of thing communist countries have.

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:16 am

Dude....you said, "Bush".

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:38 am

Randy wrote:who did you vote for?

Jamie_R · Post by **Jamie_R** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:08 am

Addict wrote:As far as I recall, we don't have any government run 'national' news sites.

suuuuure we don't ....

Addict · Post by **Addict** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:21 am

Jamie_R wrote:suuuuure we don't ....

Ok name one.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:25 am

Fox

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:25 am

Addict wrote:Ok name one.

Newspapers, TV news. Why else would they want to reign in the internet?

You really are naive if you don't think our government exercises influence over news outlets. Don't you remember the NY Times b.s?

Addict · Post by **Addict** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:38 am

Izzo wrote:Fox

Fox? Are you serious? Reasoning behind that thought?

Burke wrote:Newspapers, TV news. Why else would they want to reign in the internet?

You really are naive if you don't think our government exercises influence over news outlets. Don't you remember the NY Times b.s?

Great. We have a conspiracy theorist on our hands. There's no doubt that some information is leaked from agencies that shouldn't be. But in case you've missed it, it's not been in favor of the Republicans. If you look at most mainstream media, you'll notice a bias to the left; not to the right.

Facts go a lot further than theories.

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:41 am

Addict wrote:Fox? Are you serious? Reasoning behind that thought?

Great. We have a conspiracy theorist on our hands. There's no doubt that some information is leaked from agencies that shouldn't be. But in case you've missed it, it's not been in favor of the Republicans. If you look at most mainstream media, you'll notice a bias to the left; not to the right.

Facts go a lot further than theories.

It's called yellow journalism, Mr. History.

knightmare · Post by **knightmare** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:42 am

Blisster wrote:...

just read any 'national' news site. What a ****ing idiot

where is your evil twin Cyberskye?? I haven't seen him on the boards in awhile.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:42 am

Addict wrote:Fox? Are you serious? Reasoning behind that thought?

Great. We have a conspiracy theorist on our hands. There's no doubt that some information is leaked from agencies that shouldn't be. But in case you've missed it, it's not been in favor of the Republicans. If you look at most mainstream media, you'll notice a bias to the left; not to the right.

Facts go a lot further than theories.

Serious...Yes. Reasoning...I won't bother. You must be related to GH.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:48 am

Blisster wrote:...

just read any 'national' news site. What a ****ing idiot

Always had you pegged as a Bush guy.

Blisster · Post by **Blisster** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:04 pm

knightmare wrote:where is your evil twin Cyberskye?? I haven't seen him on the boards in awhile.

dunno, I've been trying to get ahold of him for a while but he seems to be AWOL.

FYI I'm the evil twin

Blisster · Post by **Blisster** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:05 pm

Randy wrote:who did you vote for?

who me? hell, I don't vote!

Randy · Post by **Randy** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:08 pm

me neither.. i guess i have high standards

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:32 pm

Addict wrote:
If you look at most mainstream media, you'll notice a bias to the left; not to the right.

Facts go a lot further than theories.

Proof? The fact is, there isn't one major news outlet that's as biased to the left as Fox is to the right. None, nada.

It's a cliché pepetuated by talk radio, conservative talk jocks in their own books and so forth. You know, tell the lie over and over and soon enough, people start to belive it's true.

Facts...

Addict · Post by **Addict** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:35 pm

Burke wrote:It's called yellow journalism, Mr. History.

Yellow journalism would imply that the media is trying to 'inflate' the news to drive up exposure. I'm not sure how you can apply that to the original statement at all. If you actually read some of the stories out, they are far from favorable towards Bush. In fact it seems that most of the stories are aimed at him. Perhaps due to the left wing bias of most media outlets.

Izzo wrote:Serious...Yes. Reasoning...I won't bother. You must be related to GH.

Why not? No counter argument to give?
I assume you're referring to George Herbert Bush by the GH comment?

Blisster wrote:who me? hell, I don't vote!

Then what gives you the right to comment on any of this?

Randy wrote:me neither.. i guess i have high standards

Let me just add this last part; I'm not in favor of everything Bush has done. Don't assume I'm following him blindly because he's a Republican. I think there's some items he needs to work on. But honestly, what President was viewed perfect by everyone in the U.S.?

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:37 pm

Addict wrote:Yellow journalism would imply that the media is trying to 'inflate' the news to drive up exposure. I'm not sure how you can apply that to the original statement at all. If you actually read some of the stories out, they are far from favorable towards Bush. In fact it seems that most of the stories are aimed at him. Perhaps due to the left wing bias of most media outlets.

Why not? No counter argument to give?
I assume you're referring to George Herbert Bush by the GH comment?

Then what gives you the right to comment on any of this?

Let me just add this last part; I'm not in favor of everything Bush has done. Don't assume I'm following him blindly because he's a Republican. I think there's some items he needs to work on. But honestly, what President was viewed perfect by everyone in the U.S.?

Actually, yellow journalism includes JINGOISM. But that's merely a niggling point.

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:39 pm

Addict · Post by **Addict** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:42 pm

downhill wrote:Proof? The fact is, there isn't one major news outlet that's as biased to the left as Fox is to the right. None, nada.

It's a cliché pepetuated by talk radio, conservative talk jocks in their own books and so forth. You know, tell the lie over and over and soon enough, people start to belive it's true.

Facts...

Really? How about CNN?

I know there's not a single media outlet that is NOT biased. I don't even think it's possible for one to exist. People, by nature, are going to mix their opinions in with the news. The only hope we have is that people will be smart enough to simply take in what they say and form their own opinions.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:53 pm

Blisster wrote:who me? hell, I don't vote!

if you don't vote your opinion is worthless..

Addict · Post by **Addict** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:56 pm

Sava700 wrote:if you don't vote your opinion is worthless..

Glad someone else sees it that way as well.

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:59 pm

Sava700 wrote:if you don't vote your opinion is worthless..

That is a ridiculous and easy way to avoid debate.

"Well, you've never had a kid, so you can't complain about me thumping him upside the head in the mall."

Jamie_R · Post by **Jamie_R** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:05 pm

wow - went to lunch and missed all this ...

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:36 pm

Addict wrote:Really? How about CNN?

I know there's not a single media outlet that is NOT biased. I don't even think it's possible for one to exist. People, by nature, are going to mix their opinions in with the news. The only hope we have is that people will be smart enough to simply take in what they say and form their own opinions.

What about them? Show me some proof that they are liberal biased.

CNN is just as fast to report a juicy story on a liberal as they would be a conservative, communist, white guy, black guy, woman or whatever sells.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:37 pm

Sava700 wrote:if you don't vote your opinion is worthless..

While I would agree that voting is important, I'd also suggest that if your paying taxes then your entitled to an opinion and also entitled to voice it.

That of course is just my opinion.

Jamie_R · Post by **Jamie_R** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:37 pm

downhill wrote:whatever sells.

Bingo!

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:59 pm

Sava700 wrote:if you don't vote your opinion is worthless..

By not voting my opinion is the canidates suck. Give me a decent canidate and I'll vote.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:14 pm

Taxes is something paid to make your surroundings better either way you look at it.

and yeah I'll avoid politics if I can since its often just opinions and we all know everyone has one be it right or wrong. With everything that has happened in the last 8 years its hard to look back and say that anyone else either on the ballots or not could have done a better job...hard to argue the past or the future.

EvilAjax · Post by **EvilAjax** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:18 pm

Blisster wrote:...

just read any 'national' news site. What a ****ing idiot

Well put. Thank you.

Bush supporters will always be Bush supporters... nevermind them.

It's like they don't listen to the things that he says. I've seen over 20 videos online of him, there are 4th graders with more common sense in their balls, than Bush has in his brain.

I've seen shoe laces smarter than Bush.

EvilAjax · Post by **EvilAjax** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:24 pm

Here is the top ten moments of the man you greatly support. He's doing alot for our country.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vtfmQ5Audg

BTW, Admins should consider adding the [youtube] code to this forum.

Here is another
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqLvBUSJucg

It's sad... just sad.

G.W has been exposed. That video is hilarious. Even the camera man laughs at him.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:29 pm

Can't help but laugh at those videos.

Addict · Post by **Addict** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:46 pm

Burke wrote:That is a ridiculous and easy way to avoid debate.

Avoid a debate? By voting? I suppose.

"Well, you've never had a kid, so you can't complain about me thumping him upside the head in the mall."

I'm all for thumping a kid upside the head if they're outta line. Kept me in check that's for sure.

Jamie_R wrote:wow - went to lunch and missed all this ...

You can't take breaks from political arguments/discussions/debates. You're bound to miss something amusing.

downhill wrote:What about them? Show me some proof that they are liberal biased.

CNN is just as fast to report a juicy story on a liberal as they would be a conservative, communist, white guy, black guy, woman or whatever sells.

So Fox doesn't report on blacks or women? Is that the argument?

downhill wrote:While I would agree that voting is important, I'd also suggest that if your paying taxes then your entitled to an opinion and also entitled to voice it.

Can't say I agree with you on that. But that's your opinion.

YARDofSTUF wrote:By not voting my opinion is the canidates suck. Give me a decent canidate and I'll vote.

Sometimes you have to go with the lesser of the evils. Not every candidate is perfect.

Sava700 wrote:Taxes is something paid to make your surroundings better either way you look at it.

and yeah I'll avoid politics if I can since its often just opinions and we all know everyone has one be it right or wrong.

Very true. Most political discussions turn into outright arguments....

EvilAjax wrote:Bush supporters will always be Bush supporters... nevermind them.

Supporting the President isn't a bad thing. Like I said above, I don't agree with everything he's done. But I doubt there would have been someone else that could've done any better.

It's like they don't listen to the things that he says. I've seen over 20 videos online of him, there are 4th graders with more common sense in their balls, than Bush has in his brain.

He's not the best speaker. I'll give you that. But it's not the talk that counts.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:53 pm

Addict wrote: He's not the best speaker. I'll give you that. But it's not the talk that counts.

Actually that's his problem. He sucks at diplomacy. Talking matters bigtime.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:17 pm

Addict wrote:Sometimes you have to go with the lesser of the evils. Not every candidate is perfect.

Why? Why vote for any evil when you can choose not to vote for either evil?

FunK · Post by **FunK** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:37 pm

downhill wrote:Proof? The fact is, there isn't one major news outlet that's as biased to the left as Fox is to the right. None, nada.

It's a cliché pepetuated by talk radio, conservative talk jocks in their own books and so forth. You know, tell the lie over and over and soon enough, people start to belive it's true.

Facts...

But, the collective "others" combined, are more left than Fox is right...

I don't really watch any of them anymore. Nothing good on the news from any outlet..