What will 2008 bring

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:32 pm

What will 2008 bring?

Republican
Rudy Giuliani
George Pataki
Senator McCain
who else???

Democrat
Senator Clinton
John Edwards
who else???
maybe a Edwards Clinton Ticket

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:39 pm

with those choices hopefully more people will look at a few of the Libertarians.

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:40 pm

thepieman wrote:with those choices hopefully more people will look at a few of the Libertarians.

throw up some names

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:44 pm

I like Pataki

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:02 pm

Jon wrote:throw up some names

This guy ran last presidential election and here were his stances on a lot of issues. Michael Badnarik. not sure if he will run for 2008 tho.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ba ... _positions

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:16 pm

Prey521 wrote:I like Pataki

hmmmm.... He has the money to run, not to sure he has the persona to grab a hold of an audience.

In you opinion what has he done for New York?

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:28 pm

Ousted Cuomo!!!!!!!

Statewide, crime, economy, job creation and taxes have improved since he's been in office.

I also like the fact that he is fighting to institute Jessica's Law in NYS, if only the ACLU would stop butting in!

ScottE · Post by **ScottE** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:55 pm

Tough to say we are still a long ways away. I will not be 35 in 2008 so I'm out.

Shagster · Post by **Shagster** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:58 pm

Ralph Nader!

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:00 pm

Shaggy wrote:Ralph Nader!

knightmare · Post by **knightmare** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:55 pm

DIEBOLD won the last election, why not this one coming up...

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:56 pm

knightmare wrote:DIEBOLD won the last election, why not this one coming up...

Diebold? LMAO! You believe that conspiracy also?

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:58 pm

On that list only one i would vote for is

Rudy Giuliani

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:59 pm

Augustus wrote:On that list only one i would vote for is

Rudy Giuliani

*Barf.gif here*

Cypher · Post by **Cypher** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:00 pm

A new John Hinckley Jr

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:02 pm

thepieman wrote:*Barf.gif here*

Why is that, if you don't mind me askin?

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:03 pm

Prey521 wrote:Ousted Cuomo!!!!!!!

Statewide, crime, economy, job creation and taxes have improved since he's been in office.

I also like the fact that he is fighting to institute Jessica's Law in NYS, if only the ACLU would stop butting in!

I like Pataki overall...though he made some bad blunders..I dont think he can get the support to really win and if the new WTC is not up by then I dont think he has a chance.

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:05 pm

"For the first time ever, Republicans in Congress -- Republicans! -- are demanding to know the president's exit strategy from Iraq. Yeah, in response the president said I have an exit strategy, I'm leaving office in 2008."

knightmare · Post by **knightmare** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:06 pm

Believe it?? I started it Esse***

Prey521 wrote:Diebold? LMAO! You believe that conspiracy also?

Zilog B · Post by **Zilog B** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:32 pm

Jim wrote:
"For the first time ever, Republicans in Congress -- Republicans! -- are demanding to know the president's exit strategy from Iraq. Yeah, in response the president said I have an exit strategy, I'm leaving office in 2008."

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:08 am

Prey521 wrote:Why is that, if you don't mind me askin?

You know why..I've said it before. he traded off the Italian mob for the russian mob, helped his wifes company, Waste Management, claiming that the Mob had ties to the Sanitation industry throughout New York and monopolized on it. Meanwhile if you call Waste management and ask for a quote on a 20cu yd container for demolition work they tell you its 600.00 for a couple of days and that you can't mix stuff up. If you call a company with an Italian name you get a price of 246.00 for the same container and no time limit on how long you need it. The same with commerical carting. I pay 38.00 per month with the company with an Italian last name...vs US waste or Waste Management price of almost 100.00. He is a shiester just like the rest of them and he screwed his own kind over to do it. A man I wouldn't trust to run the country.

Edit: also for further proof..Look at the Fulton Fish market and tell me who is running things down there. He pushed the Italians outta there too.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:18 am

Hummm....

Sounds just right then, pie.

Someone who the power elite of the Republican party can push for, while their smeaing McCain again... If..he runs.

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:36 am

downhill wrote:Hummm....

Sounds just right then, pie.

Someone who the power elite of the Republican party can push for, while their smeaing McCain again... If..he runs.

People were hatin on him up until 9-11 where he pushed himself into the limelight. He wouldn't have been the hero that people made him out to be if it weren't for the Police, Firemen, rescue workers that came from all around the country to help in the rescue and recovery operation. It wasn't like he was down there digging with them so I don't see why they made him out to be such a hero.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:19 am

thepieman wrote:You know why..I've said it before. he traded off the Italian mob for the russian mob, helped his wifes company, Waste Management, claiming that the Mob had ties to the Sanitation industry throughout New York and monopolized on it. Meanwhile if you call Waste management and ask for a quote on a 20cu yd container for demolition work they tell you its 600.00 for a couple of days and that you can't mix stuff up. If you call a company with an Italian name you get a price of 246.00 for the same container and no time limit on how long you need it. The same with commerical carting. I pay 38.00 per month with the company with an Italian last name...vs US waste or Waste Management price of almost 100.00. He is a shiester just like the rest of them and he screwed his own kind over to do it. A man I wouldn't trust to run the country.

Edit: also for further proof..Look at the Fulton Fish market and tell me who is running things down there. He pushed the Italians outta there too.

bah...that stuff doesnt bother me..all politicians are corrupt..just have to figure out which one is the better corrupted in the end..LOL

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:07 am

thepieman wrote:He wouldn't have been the hero that people made him out to be if it weren't for the Police, Firemen, rescue workers that came from all around the country to help in the rescue and recovery operation. It wasn't like he was down there digging with them so I don't see why they made him out to be such a hero.

Having been involved with the state wide logistical planning, I would say Rudy was an exceptional leader. This is not meant to take anything away from those in the trenches, but try to understand the logistics behind an effort as large as this one.

Having been involved with many state wide emergency response efforts under different leader ship, I can honestly say, he ran a tight ship and did an exceptional job.

Now let me clarify this before someone takes this out of context. These statements are not an attempt to define the situational awareness at ground zero. I am refering to the larger city wide/state wide picture.

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:33 am

ScottE wrote:Tough to say we are still a long ways away. I will not be 35 in 2008 so I'm out of the closet.

Fixed

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:34 am

Jim wrote:
"For the first time ever, Republicans in Congress -- Republicans! -- are demanding to know the president's exit strategy from Iraq. Yeah, in response the president said I have an exit strategy, I'm leaving office in 2008."

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:54 am

Augustus wrote:just have to figure out which one is the better corrupted in the end..LOL

I heard spammy likes getting his end corrupted while DLL watches.
Future Mayor?

Pie

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:15 pm

thepieman wrote:I heard spammy likes getting his end corrupted while DLL watches.
Future Mayor?

Pie

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:35 pm

It doesn't matter what I vote, this state will always go republican.

But I'll still vote, I don't know for who yet, way to early to tell.