uncapping

crazytonyi · Post by **crazytonyi** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:58 pm

i live in a student co-op, which is like a dorm except you actually "own" the building. so we are supposed to all be nice and make things easier on each other. there are about 120 of us here, and we juts got our LAN working after it was down for repairs for 3 months. and of course, now we have ****ty, unreliable connections. and then i'm crusing through looking at what software people are sharing, and i see uncapmodem kit. and then i find out what that that program does. and now i'm pissed. stealing bandwidth isn't legal, duh. but neither is sharing software. i'm not trying to take a moral stance. but stealing bandwidth within a shared household, where you know the people you are ****ing, that's really dirty. so i'm wondering if there is some way to a)find out who is doing it just as a member of the LAN and b)recap them. i don't want anyone doing it to get in actual legal trouble. I think they should be punched in the stomach, but even that isn't what my aim is. I just want my fair share of the bandwidth. any ideas on software that can do one or both of the above mentioned things?

thanks

t

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:35 pm

crazytonyi wrote:i live in a student co-op, which is like a dorm except you actually "own" the building. so we are supposed to all be nice and make things easier on each other. there are about 120 of us here, and we juts got our LAN working after it was down for repairs for 3 months. and of course, now we have ****ty, unreliable connections. and then i'm crusing through looking at what software people are sharing, and i see uncapmodem kit. and then i find out what that that program does. and now i'm pissed. stealing bandwidth isn't legal, duh. but neither is sharing software. i'm not trying to take a moral stance. but stealing bandwidth within a shared household, where you know the people you are ****ing, that's really dirty. so i'm wondering if there is some way to a)find out who is doing it just as a member of the LAN and b)recap them. i don't want anyone doing it to get in actual legal trouble. I think they should be punched in the stomach, but even that isn't what my aim is. I just want my fair share of the bandwidth. any ideas on software that can do one or both of the above mentioned things?

thanks

t

It's called opening your books and studying rather then worrying about other people and what they are doing. You might as well learn less then to contaplate or talk to a school counlser about your delima and how you can't seem to get much work done untill you enforce the rules either way...

cablenut · Post by **cablenut** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:37 pm

I'm surprised that's all you found on a college LAN. I'd say the smartest thing to do (as if this is ever done with college networks) is just to disable your file-shares/NetBIOS and live life wonderfully at your co-op. I HIGHLY doubt that *uncapping* file does anything but occupy hard-disk space. The only time I have seen modem uncapping a viable thing, was back in the early days when the cable networks had no real policies on uncapping.

They would leave the modems SNMP and TFTP interfaces as Read/Write without filtering or secure access. You could just download a config file online and place your QoS cap values into that file, then re-upload this to your modem. Then bring it back online. You can't do any of this with the current cable networks anymore. Although yes, I'm talking of Cable networks. DSL is regulated even more in my understanding.

Carpe Diem anyway, right?

cyberskye · Post by **cyberskye** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:11 pm

cablenut wrote:<chop> Although yes, I'm talking of Cable networks. DSL is regulated even more in my understanding.

Yep - speeds are set at the DSLAM so you can't just tweak the modem.

crazytonyi · Post by **crazytonyi** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:47 am

mccoffee wrote:It's called opening your books and studying rather then worrying about other people and what they are doing. You might as well learn less then to contaplate or talk to a school counlser about your delima and how you can't seem to get much work done untill you enforce the rules either way...

wow. you obviously don't go to college. if you did, you would know how much of it relies on having reliable internet connections any time of the day. I'm sure you are happy with your internet speed, as you use this site. does that mean your trips to the *counselor* went well? <notice how us college students can spell, must be all that book readin'>. i'm wondering how you can a)tell other people to mind their business, since you couldn't do that even in this post b)think you know anything about school life and education when you can't write a coherent thought, and c)think it's not MY business when someone is STEALING my bandwidth. Did you apply to college and get rejected, or are you 10 years old and just ignorant?

Thanks to the others who posted. It's good to know it wasn't a big deal afterall.

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:52 am

crazytonyi wrote:wow. you obviously don't go to college. if you did, you would know how much of it relies on having reliable internet connections any time of the day. I'm sure you are happy with your internet speed, as you use this site. does that mean your trips to the *counselor* went well? <notice how us college students can spell, must be all that book readin'>. i'm wondering how you can a)tell other people to mind their business, since you couldn't do that even in this post b)think you know anything about school life and education when you can't write a coherent thought, and c)think it's not MY business when someone is STEALING my bandwidth. Did you apply to college and get rejected, or are you 10 years old and just ignorant?

Thanks to the others who posted. It's good to know it wasn't a big deal afterall.

I"m in college on dean's list though I admit you could probably find post that confirm this duh my grammer skills are pulitzer prize quailty...

My point was i think that was unethical browsing though other people's files like according to people are stealing your bandwith. If you weren't so worried about it then why whould you look at their files??

So yes I thought was hillarous how you posted not going to take a moral stance or ,yet it ate you up so much that you posted on it. A router ,or a swtich doesn't know who to ddistubate bandiwth to. With 120 users traffic will get congested.

You are in College in a Coop yet I'm still trying to get in a Coop, boo hoo for me it's just funny how you posted all that ,yet browsed others files for "your bandwith" that's why I made my commits.

So being ten ,and ingorant isn't really a bad thing if you think about since i would have more exciting things to full fill my time then waste mine invanding privacy..

So call me what you will I just thought it was funny sorry it was..

BigAmp · Post by **BigAmp** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:05 am

lol, a college boy eh!!

yep I said eh, I am canadian so I am kinda slow. well thats what the simpson's say about canada. what mccoffee was getting at was if you did page one of the reading about the software, you should have clued into the fact that it would have no greater affect on you connection then someone who uses the network a lot.

next did you say three months for network repair? that's crazy. I have seen whole rez buildings rewired and the netowrk setup from new blank routers in less then two months. as a member of the coop you should be freaking about that and the money that had gone to that.

also I know that mccoffee has been around for me giving up on school network and getting extra speed or being more reliable. infact one of the first and big things you should be learning about any tech. is that it is not 100% reliable. so what dose that mean??? well simple even when I am going to college for web development I know that I have to be able to go anolog and porn can wait. yes I havehad so many problem with my laptop, internet etc.... I did a whole semester without my laptop and my class' only have the plugs for internet Ihave to have a laptop. just went to the old anolog laptop aka pen and paper. when I did have to have the computer I went to a computer lab. when I needed to find info I went to this big place on campus with a lot of books and a few computers too, hey there was one down town too! what did that call it again???? O a library!!!

you should really just try to think given you do live in a coop how lucky you are to have that stuff from the start. a lot of places don't. or just hink about to the old 14.4 modems. besides if you think that college is only about having fast internet 24/7/360 your really odd.

last why on earth would you make fun of someone's spelling? most peoples spelling is bad because of computers and spell check or they could just have learning disablity. plus as long as you can read what they have typed, you got the info so wher eis the problem there? now I will say this everyone dose not like to hear a big speach about how my morals (or anyones) are so great. but I do think the counselor would be good. your way to stressed if your reacting to something like a college student using or sharing software in a not so legal way.

and I am spent!!! rant out!!! lol I thiknI need to step away from the computer myself. midterm are messing with my head too!!! but a lest I know it!

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:21 am

crazytonyi wrote:i live in a student co-op, which is like a dorm except you actually "own" the building. so we are supposed to all be nice and make things easier on each other. there are about 120 of us here, and we juts got our LAN working after it was down for repairs for 3 months. and of course, now we have ****ty, unreliable connections. and then i'm crusing through looking at what software people are sharing, and i see uncapmodem kit. and then i find out what that that program does. and now i'm pissed. stealing bandwidth isn't legal, duh. but neither is sharing software. i'm not trying to take a moral stance. but stealing bandwidth within a shared household, where you know the people you are ****ing, that's really dirty. so i'm wondering if there is some way to a)find out who is doing it just as a member of the LAN and b)recap them. i don't want anyone doing it to get in actual legal trouble. I think they should be punched in the stomach, but even that isn't what my aim is. I just want my fair share of the bandwidth. any ideas on software that can do one or both of the above mentioned things?

thanks

t

Uncapping would be done at the point it comes into the building, aloowing higher download speeds. Most of the uncapping files u see are probably just viruses being zipped up in a dunny program.