If your Black it's called "looting", if your White it's called "finding"

mmione · Post by **mmione** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:51 pm

pretty sad.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:54 pm

And for muslims it must be called planting?

AceFireball · Post by **AceFireball** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:56 pm

Thats pretty F'ed up, however that looks like two different news sources....Is it not?

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:59 pm

Snopes sez.....True!!

http://www.snopes.com/photos/katrina/looters.asp

Salon article on the photographs by Aaron Kinney suggests the captions were a result of a combination of contexual and stylistic differences:
Jack Stokes, AP's director of media relations, confirmed today that [photographer Dave] Martin says he witnessed the people in his images looting a grocery store. "He saw the person go into the shop and take the goods," Stokes said, "and that's why he wrote 'looting' in the caption."

Regarding the AFP/Getty "finding" photo by [photographer Chris] Graythen, Getty spokeswoman Bridget Russel said, "This is obviously a big tragedy down there, so we're being careful with how we credit these photos." Russel said that Graythen had discussed the image in question with his editor and that if Graythen didn't witness the two people in the image in the act of looting, then he couldn't say they were looting.
The photographer who took the Getty/AFP picture, Chris Graythen, also posted the reasons behind his caption:
I wrote the caption about the two people who 'found' the items. I believed in my opinion, that they did simply find them, and not 'looted' them in the definition of the word. The people were swimming in chest deep water, and there were other people in the water, both white and black. I looked for the best picture. there were a million items floating in the water — we were right near a grocery store that had 5+ feet of water in it. it had no doors. the water was moving, and the stuff was floating away. These people were not ducking into a store and busting down windows to get electronics. They picked up bread and cokes that were floating in the water. They would have floated away anyhow.

mmione · Post by **mmione** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:00 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u ... captions_1

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:34 pm

Sounds about right to me.

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:42 pm

Oh Geez, Johnny Cochoran is rolling in his grave!

RoscoPColtrane · Post by **RoscoPColtrane** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:44 pm

Also check out the ammount of stuff thats in that dudes bag. They have a thing of bread, he proboly has a TV or cash register or soemthing

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:50 pm

RoscoPColtrane wrote:Also check out the ammount of stuff thats in that dudes bag. They have a thing of bread, he proboly has a TV or cash register or soemthing

The bag wouldn't float with a TV or cash register in it! Maybe she grabbed whatever she could. Well she was smart since they had to wait 4 days.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:17 pm

bigmo66 wrote:Oh Geez, Johnny Cochoran is rolling in his grave!

his rotting corpse is almost banging through the coffin tryin to get to file suit

unbelievable

Jamie_R · Post by **Jamie_R** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:28 pm

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:33 pm

anyway you look at it,

it's a screwed up nasty situation,

and we don't know what we would do ,unless we were doing it!

tao_jones · Post by **tao_jones** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:58 pm

Brent wrote:Sounds about right to me.

You cant be serious.

RoscoPColtrane · Post by **RoscoPColtrane** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:19 pm

thepieman wrote: The bag wouldn't float with a TV or cash register in it! Maybe she grabbed whatever she could. Well she was smart since they had to wait 4 days.

Yah i know...just messing around!

triniwasp · Post by **triniwasp** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:22 am

Brent wrote:Sounds about right to me.

U NO GOOD SOB, I will fight you with the power of Mountain Man. Here...take that....

BAM

jayyy · Post by **jayyy** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:07 am

I dunno...one of the biggest natural disasters in US history, authorities at all levels totally drop the ball, perhaps thousands dead, mass flooding, no power, no food, people scrambling just to survive...

and right off the bat, some people seem to be going, "oh, there go those blacks looting again".

It seems like some people seem to be determined to see things a certain way, regardless of the circumstances.

cho · Post by **cho** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:20 am

downhill wrote:Snopes sez.....True!!

http://www.snopes.com/photos/katrina/looters.asp

[photographer Dave] Martin says he witnessed the people in his images looting a grocery store. "He saw the person go into the shop and take the goods," Stokes said, "and that's why he wrote 'looting' in the caption."

Russel said that Graythen had discussed the image in question with his editor and that if Graythen didn't witness the two people in the image in the act of looting, then he couldn't say they were looting.

It isn't a matter of black or white it is a matter of actually seeing someone looting and seeing some people who may have looted but since they were not caught in the act they couldn't be considered looters. Especially in the US where you can sue over almost anything...

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:46 am

*cho* wrote:

It isn't a matter of black or white it is a matter of actually seeing someone looting and seeing some people who may have looted but since they were not caught in the act they couldn't be considered looters. Especially in the US where you can sue over almost anything...

I noticed that also in the article. Not sure racism can be credibly applied to this under those circumstances.

JC · Post by JC » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:32 am

I was under the impression from seeing it days ago that "jesse Jackson" Started all that blacks are looting and whites are finding crap.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:54 am

The Snopes article alleges that it was a matter of perspective on how the two different reporters seen the story. If you read it....it's not a matter of race. Again, it was a matter of perspective.

Acefireball noted....

however that looks like two different news sources....Is it not?

I responded....."True"
then gave you the Snopes article so you could "read' it for yourselves.

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:17 am

I'm white.