Man shoots himself apparently over Bush's re-election

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:49 pm

Saw this at Foxnews.com. Pretty sad indeed. No need to be this distraught. Everyone can do their part to make things better.

Man Kills Self at Ground Zero
Saturday, November 06, 2004

NEW YORK — A 25-year-old university worker from Georgia shot and killed himself at ground zero (search) Saturday morning, authorities said.

The man, Andrew Veal (search), of Athens, Ga., was found atop the structure housing the 1 and 9 subway lines after a hotel worker spotted what he believed was somebody sleeping inside the site around 8 a.m., said Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. A shotgun was found near the body, Coleman said. No suicide note was found, he said.

Veal apparently was distraught over President Bush's (search) re-election, Newsday reported Saturday on its Web site edition, citing an unnamed police source. The newspaper also said the man was a registered Democrat who opposed the war in Iraq.

Coleman said he could not confirm Newsday's account.

Police were investigating how Veal entered the former World Trade Center (search) site, which is protected by high fences and owned by the Port Authority.

Veal worked in a computer lab at the University of Georgia and was planning to marry, friends said Saturday.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:11 pm

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:27 pm

Guess he shot the wrong guy huh?

Zilog B · Post by **Zilog B** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:32 pm

Better that than making Cheney president.

Croc · Post by **Croc** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:16 am

Certainly wanted to be sure he got himself using a shotgun.
Toooo messy.
When the daughter's neighbour did it 18 months ago, he used an old .22 and a short shot round. No mess and was still sitting in the chair with his chin resting on the barrel.

Sad when this happens but to do it over politics is just plain dumb.

Croc.

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:21 am

Croc wrote:Certainly wanted to be sure he got himself using a shotgun.
Toooo messy.
When the daughter's neighbour did it 18 months ago, he used an old .22 and a short shot round. No mess and was still sitting in the chair with his chin resting on the barrel.

Sad when this happens but to do it over politics is just plain dumb.

Croc.

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:43 am

I'm sure a few members here wanted to do the very same thing.

//kicks peeble//

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:49 am

Joint Chiefs of Staff wrote:I'm sure a few members here wanted to do the very same thing.

//kicks peeble//

Could you just imagine the statistics if Kerry had got in instead

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:55 am

Norm wrote:Could you just imagine the statistics if Kerry had got in instead

lol

Yeah this place would hvae been a wasteland.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:58 am

One things for sure, a Bush presidency will be a lot more exciting

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:01 am

Norm wrote:One things for sure, a Bush presidency will be a lot more exciting

It would have eliminated a few political polls on the boards, eh?

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:06 am

Good riddens.........one less idiot in this world.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:17 am

Prey521 wrote:Good riddens.........one less idiot in this world.

He is watching you, .....................always

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:19 am

Norm wrote:He is watching you, .....................always

Prey sees dead people.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:27 am

Joint Chiefs of Staff wrote:Prey sees dead people.

A predator / prey complex?

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:34 am

Norm wrote:A predator / prey complex?

Maybe lol

Prey is really Kerry's cabin boy. I can picture (literally) prey wearing a tank top and speedos waiting on Kerry...hand and foot.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:37 am

Joint Chiefs of Staff wrote: I can picture (literally) prey wearing a tank top and speedos waiting on Kerry...hand and foot.

Oh Yeah!

Maybe you should head home and get some rest lol

Krazy Kraut · Post by **Krazy Kraut** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 3:44 am

Good, One less liberal around to vote for candidates who are unfit to run this country.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 3:46 am

Krazy Kraut wrote:Good, One less liberal around to vote for candidates who are unfit to run this country.

Bush killed himself???

Krazy Kraut · Post by **Krazy Kraut** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 3:47 am

EvilAngel wrote:Bush killed himself???

hahahahahhaha *not funny*

first off, PRESIDENT Bush is not a liberal.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 3:49 am

Krazy Kraut wrote:hahahahahhaha *not funny*

first off, PRESIDENT Bush is not a liberal.

How unfortunate

Croc · Post by **Croc** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:01 am

Krazy Kraut wrote:hahahahahhaha *not funny*

first off, PRESIDENT Bush is not a liberal.

That depends on the issue in hand doesn't it???

Croc.

mountainman · Post by **mountainman** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:39 am

He must have had a long waiting list to get into Canada.

Blisster · Post by **Blisster** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:52 am

wow, the christian morals are strong in this thread.

"good, one less idiot"

"good, one less liberal...."

If there was a baby jesus he would surely be crying right now.

shame on both of you.

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:06 pm

Blisster wrote:wow, the christian morals are strong in this thread.

"good, one less idiot"

"good, one less liberal...."

If there was a baby jesus he would surely be crying right now.

shame on both of you.

Hey, at least the "moral majority" is a majority now, that's gotta count for something. Now if only they could work on the first part...

Krazy Kraut · Post by **Krazy Kraut** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:07 pm

Blisster wrote:wow, the christian morals are strong in this thread.

"good, one less liberal...."

If there was a baby jesus he would surely be crying right now.

shame on both of you.

Who said I was Christian???

Blisster · Post by **Blisster** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:09 pm

Jim wrote:Hey, at least the "moral majority" is a majority now, that's gotta count for something. Now if only they could work on the first part...

true.dat

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:09 pm

Blisster wrote:wow, the christian morals are strong in this thread.

"good, one less idiot"

"good, one less liberal...."

If there was a baby jesus he would surely be crying right now.

shame on both of you.

Anyone stupid enough to end their own life over a presidential election probably didn't deserve to live anyways, so it's better that he off'd himself...he's a moron plain and simple.

Blisster · Post by **Blisster** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:35 pm

no where in the article is there any proof as to why this guy offed himself. The whole "over the election" is pure speculation and hersey.

I think its tragic that he did, regardless of the reasons, and can't imagine why anyone would ever think in any way that the world could possibly be a better place for it. If I were a christian I imagine I'd be praying for him and his family...

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:40 pm

Krazy Kraut wrote:Who said I was Christian???

Well, if you are a Republican, surely you know that our party espouses the company of the MORAL majority(read Christian right)....and if you aren't a Christian, I expect the moral police to attempt to kick us out of the party....since we don't fit in...

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:44 pm

Blisster wrote:no where in the article is there any proof as to why this guy offed himself. The whole "over the election" is pure speculation and hersey.

I think its tragic that he did, regardless of the reasons, and can't imagine why anyone would ever think in any way that the world could possibly be a better place for it. If I were a christian I imagine I'd be praying for him and his family...

Praying for him after he off'd himself is a moot point, since he's burning in hell right about now. His family should be prayed for however.

If he didn't off himself cuz of the elections, then yeah, it is sad that he couldn't deal with something to the point where he chose to end his life.....but if he did do it cuz Bush won, then he's an idiot plain and simple.

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:45 pm

[quote="Croc"]That depends on the issue in hand doesn't it??? ]

DAMN! Croc knows more than the people that live in the USA. The current "conservative" party has a fetish for modifying the constitution it seems. Closet liberals almost.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:57 pm

it's stupid to kill yourself over who gets ellected into office

dead you cannot voice your opinion and effect change

only alive can you make a difference

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 3:24 pm

Blisster wrote:wow, the christian morals are strong in this thread.

"good, one less idiot"

"good, one less liberal...."

If there was a baby jesus he would surely be crying right now.

shame on both of you.

Im thinking you were the one who brought Christianity into this thread Blisster.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:21 pm

Wow is this really worth 3 pages?

Blisster · Post by **Blisster** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:38 pm

[quote="Roody"]Im thinking you were the one who brought Christianity into this thread Blisster. ]
well, you can't espouse christian morals in one thread or argument OR ideology, and then forsake them in another can you? Heck, that might be considered a flip-flop!!!
Or just good 'ole hypocrisy.

Ahren · Post by **Ahren** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:44 pm

Thin the herd!

Gandalf · Post by **Gandalf** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:22 pm

Like Brent said +

If you commit suicide over something like this, you won't get to vote the next election duh?? and we all know every vote counts!

Anyways sad news.... than again is it?

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:29 pm

Certainly, it must be more than the election.

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:50 pm

nepenthe wrote:Certainly, it must be more than the election.

Its in the Daily News that he did it as a protest over politics...he came all the way from Georgia to do it.

Pie