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Pics of datacenter that server is in.
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:03 am
by YeOldeStonecat
It's still a mess but in construction, no cable trays yet, but here are a few pics we can plug into the game server website.
First, the fiber coming in that feeds the 15 megs worth of OC-3. Next month Rich is bumping it up to 20 megs...since this is the month he's going to start adding more traffic to the existing line, moving stuff from his 4x T-1's.
A shot of the fiber coming into his Cisco router, that's the thick unit 4 down from the top, you can see the yellow/orange fiber plugging into it. The a red uplink cable drops down to uplink into the Cisco Catalyst switch.
Then our server...it's the tall white Inwin tower on the left. The Antec hard drive intake fans up top, with two slotted 5" bay covers, one above, one below...the Cheetahs are behind those with a nice breeze across them. That little clone tower, and the Compaq Proliant, those are somebody elses, but the black Dell PowerEdge server on its side up top...that's mine, which is doing nothing right now but folding.

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:05 am
by Immortal
I'm aroused...
Damn bandwidth turns me on..
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:10 am
by BaLa
OMG
JCOS would have a heart attack

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:14 am
by YeOldeStonecat
BaLa wrote:OMG
JCOS would have a heart attack
Yeah, especially that pile to the left of our server, that's Franklins.Net's web and Net Radio streaming servers. Huge rats nest.
That mess in the first pic, below the corning box, that big bundle going off to the right horizontally..those will be gone this weekend, removed, no longer going anywhere.
And those 2 little APC battery backup units on our servers cart...those are dead..kaput. Need to be replaced. They are what caused the server to drop two Saturdays ago.
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:21 am
by Joint Chiefs of Staff
I'm calling my office right now. I'll be taking time off and coming over to Connecticut. I'll be there in 8 hours.

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:27 am
by YeOldeStonecat
Joint Chiefs of Staff wrote:I'm calling my office right now. I'll be taking time off and coming over to Connecticut. I'll be there in 8 hours.
I'll have the beer ready!

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:30 am
by Joint Chiefs of Staff
YeOldeStonecat wrote:I'll have the beer ready!
Are you nuts! Beer and a rats nest from the depths of hell do not and I repeat DO NOT go hand in hand.

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:32 am
by Joint Chiefs of Staff
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I actually saw a piece of velcro being used. lol
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:41 am
by Jstyr
Great shots YOSC...something about a mass of wires feeding information to and fro that makes me all warm inside
What's that strange looking box below your Dell Poweredge Server?
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:57 am
by YeOldeStonecat
Jstyr wrote:
What's that strange looking box below your Dell Poweredge Server?
Compaq Proliant 3000 series....very popular server a couple of years ago. We have one of those ourselves (behind me as I stand taking the pic). You can make another one out, well half of it, to the right also. Awesome servers!
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:06 am
by Ghosthunter
YeOldeStonecat wrote:Compaq Proliant 3000 series....very popular server a couple of years ago. We have one of those ourselves (behind me as I stand taking the pic). You can make another one out, well half of it, to the right also. Awesome servers!
Compaq...yuck..lol
Thank god we are almost done getting all the compaqs out of our Datacenter
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:10 am
by g-c0de
awsome pics YOSC

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:14 am
by YeOldeStonecat
Ghosthunter wrote:Compaq...yuck..lol
Thank god we are almost done getting all the compaqs out of our Datacenter
That's not my server, but HP/Compaq is my fave brand! Awesome support when you need it, quick, painless, and overnight shipment of replacement parts if needed. You don't have to pay some extra fee to be some gold card carrying member to get good support....it's there right out of the box when you buy the server.
Part breaks on server, call support, tell them you did this, this, this, and that. They might suggest one more thing...doesn't work, OK, what's you address? Part is on it's way, be to you by 10AM the next day.
Clients with Dell equipment I'm thinking of doubling my hourly rates, cuz of the nightmares involved. Part breaks on one of their servers...call, hang up cuz you can't understand the support guy from Delhi, call again, struggle trying to understand, he's just telling you to run the restore CD anyways, or push some reset button. It's like I have to fight with them for days and days to get replacement parts. Yeah they have that gold support, but you shouldn't have to pay extra just to get a partially decent english speaking support guy.
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:34 am
by Ghosthunter
YeOldeStonecat wrote:That's not my server, but HP/Compaq is my fave brand! Awesome support when you need it, quick, painless, and overnight shipment of replacement parts if needed. You don't have to pay some extra fee to be some gold card carrying member to get good support....it's there right out of the box when you buy the server.
Part breaks on server, call support, tell them you did this, this, this, and that. They might suggest one more thing...doesn't work, OK, what's you address? Part is on it's way, be to you by 10AM the next day.
Clients with Dell equipment I'm thinking of doubling my hourly rates, cuz of the nightmares involved. Part breaks on one of their servers...call, hang up cuz you can't understand the support guy from Delhi, call again, struggle trying to understand, he's just telling you to run the restore CD anyways, or push some reset button. It's like I have to fight with them for days and days to get replacement parts. Yeah they have that gold support, but you shouldn't have to pay extra just to get a partially decent english speaking support guy.
Lol I was kidding becuse we got into this debate before.
With dell we have gold support on every single server, we have also spent probably half million on servers alone last year, so Dell treats us like gold =)
But on a more serious side i have not had a dell mobo fail on me yet, while I can count a lot more on the compaq. I have had hard drives fail, and fans fail, but that is the norm for any hardware server.
The reason we moved from Compaq to Dell was the support was horrendous and we did not have Compaq gold version at the time. But they had to replace a motherboard one time and when the technician came out he blamed it on the Curical ram we installed ourselves. No way we are going to pay the high price of ram compaq uses, all they do is take some ram and rebrand it with their name. That was the last straw they were really going to charge us for the motherboard.
That and one time we ordered 4 Compaq DL 380 at one time, and 3 out of 4 were DOA, when I called up Compaq they would not let us send back the enitre box, I had to wait for a technian to come and replace them. It took forever over a week. They should have sent us 3 new servers and we send these back at the same time.
The last biggest selling point for us was Dell was able to beat the price for Compaq including gold support big time. While compaq would not do anything for us....so it was a pretty simple choice who to choose...easier for the CEO as well =)
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:50 am
by YeOldeStonecat
Ghosthunter wrote:Lol I was kidding becuse we got into this debate before.
But on a more serious side i have not had a dell mobo fail on me yet, while I can count a lot more on the compaq. I have had hard drives fail, and fans fail, but that is the norm for any hardware server.)
Oh yeah that was you. Hmmm...I think I've replaced 1 mobo on a CPQ server. Couple of hard drives, regardless of who made them (IBM/Seagate/WD, etc)...mostly what I've had to replace the most was tape drives, and on the low end ones, those all in one feature boards which have the SCSI/NIC/Video all in one board. (Reason I'll never sell those entry 300 series again).
You don't need "gold" with Compaq...don't have to pay another penny for standard "next day shipment". If you want 4 hour response time...yes, but not for standard next day. That comes with the server right out of the box.
Troubleshot RAID controllers with Dell yet? That one put me over the edge.
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:52 am
by Ghosthunter
YeOldeStonecat wrote:Oh yeah that was you. Hmmm...I think I've replaced 1 mobo on a CPQ server. Couple of hard drives, regardless of who made them (IBM/Seagate/WD, etc)...mostly what I've had to replace the most was tape drives, and on the low end ones, those all in one feature boards which have the SCSI/NIC/Video all in one board. (Reason I'll never sell those entry 300 series again)
yeah hard drives #1 thing that fails no matter vendor or hardware
we been lucky with our tape drives, but we mostly use Quantum DLT 8000 drives
biggest problem though we been having and it dirivng me insane is Veritas Backupexec 9.x
the software is so buggy i dont know how it got released...sorry i am venting becuase i am in the middle of trying to do a restore and cannot
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 12:27 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
Ghosthunter wrote:
the software is so buggy i dont know how it got released...sorry i am venting becuase i am in the middle of trying to do a restore and cannot
If restoring to C partition, restore the file in an alternate location (like on another partition). Yeah, normally I love their products, but I did have to restore something on a clients new server last fall. Supposedly they were to have a hot fix out pretty quickly...I've yet to find it.
But anyways, yeah I came across that restore problem, and in my case it was a permissions issue, which I solved by simply restoring the data to some folder I made on the D partition (not the original location) with wide open permissions, then using Win Explorer copied that to it's correct directory.
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 12:33 pm
by Ghosthunter
YeOldeStonecat wrote:If restoring to C partition, restore the file in an alternate location (like on another partition). Yeah, normally I love their products, but I did have to restore something on a clients new server last fall. Supposedly they were to have a hot fix out pretty quickly...I've yet to find it.
But anyways, yeah I came across that restore problem, and in my case it was a permissions issue, which I solved by simply restoring the data to some folder I made on the D partition (not the original location) with wide open permissions, then using Win Explorer copied that to it's correct directory.
I would the problem is it is 44 GB worth of data, and then I would still have to copy it over to the new server, but yeah I am basically doing a redirection to another server.
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 12:39 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
44 gigs...heh, servers on a giga switch backplane? Watch the grass grow, paint dry, etc.