Death as entertainment.

in2deep · Post by **in2deep** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:42 pm

I am totally disgusted.

I do not care that the lives wasted were flies, ants and ladybirds.

This evening, the program has just finished, a cute concept was to take people from particular industries, and present them with a simple choice, you accept a challenge, or give up the chance of a 3 week holiday.

One of the guys was a zoo keeper from Randers Regnskov, (the site is available in English), it is a rain forest in greenhouses, not the biggest in the world, but a big attraction in Denmark. His "challenges" were to kill with a hammer, captive animals, albeit flies, ants, and ladybirds, in order to go through to win the chance of a 3 week holiday.

How on Earth a reputable company like DR, (Denmarks Radio - like the BBC in England), could stand behind such a thing amazes and disgusts me. It is not clear yet if the animals were genuine live animals, or simulated, but, I suggest, it is immaterial. How anyone can sanction winning a holiday by killing, or appearing to kill defenceless animals is unthinkable.

The program is called "Endelig Fredag", translates to "Finally Friday" or similar, and is presented by "Amin Jensen".

I would ask that anyone who even remotely is concerned about animal welfare write a mail to the following, write in English, that is not a problem. They'll know.

Denmarks Radio: - Broadcasting Company
dr@dr.dk

Randers Regnskov: - Employee source
post@regnskoven.dk

64bit · Post by **64bit** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:28 pm

They are just bugs is my take on it

in2deep · Post by **in2deep** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:35 pm

>>> They are just bugs is my take on it

So are you - just mine.

Zilog B · Post by **Zilog B** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:36 pm

heck, i'd cap a few rabbits for a 4-day weekend.....

(I'm joking, i'm not really that bad....)

Zilog B · Post by **Zilog B** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:41 pm

they have shows now where people EAT live bugs, worms, grubs, etc........... for $$$

64bit · Post by **64bit** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:52 pm

Originally posted by in2deep
>>> They are just bugs is my take on it

So are you - just mine.

Aww come on dude, thats not nice

fastchevy · Post by **fastchevy** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:59 pm

Originally posted by in2deep
>>> They are just bugs is my take on it

So are you - just mine.

So kill me

If ya can

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 5:02 pm

just preparing you for the real thing when they do it to humans...

cho · Post by **cho** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 5:34 pm

At least they bugs were eaten in Fear factory, survivor etc. This one in my opinion wouldn't be so bad if the bugs weren't wasted.

fivesixseven · Post by **fivesixseven** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:55 pm

im all for pest control but

i'd cap a few rabbits for a 4-day weekend.....

no way... i dont mess with deer, big game, or rabbit hunting

cho · Post by **cho** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:59 pm

What is the difference?

from an ant to a mouse to a rabbit to a dog to lion??

I have no problem with any thing being killed, including humans, as long as the remains will be used properly and to the fullest.

Killing for sport is wrong IMO, but killing for food, protection, clothes and other necessities is not.

lonewolfz28 · Post by **lonewolfz28** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 4:35 am

Originally posted by *cho*
At least they bugs were eaten in Fear factory, survivor etc. This one in my opinion wouldn't be so bad if the bugs weren't wasted.

O.K. I'll kill the bugs, give them to you to eat so they aren't wasted and enjoy my 3 day weekend.

Never stepped on a cockroach huh? You haven't lived until you've stomped out a cockroach.

Brandon_k_W · Post by **Brandon_k_W** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 7:00 am

And if ants were invading your home because you forgot to put some food back in the fridge, you still wouldn't kill them?

in2deep · Post by **in2deep** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 3:35 am

>>> And if ants were invading your home

The big differeence, as has been pointed out already, is that this is a different case. The TV program was for "entertainment" purposes - where does it stop?

Bouncer · Post by **Bouncer** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 4:32 am

Hopefully with the insects.

I must admit I'm a little taken aback that you care that much about insects. I'm not a big insect slayer myself, but.. feh. I can't get that worked up about it.

Are you perchance a member of PETA?

Regards,
-Bouncer-

in2deep · Post by **in2deep** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 5:06 am

Whther I care or not about insects is not at issue. I will swat a mosquito if it is foolish enough to decide to bite me.

I guess you had to see the thing. An undecided man with a hammer being egged on by a braying studio audience to deliberately kill, for their viewing pleasure, a small animal trapped under a small glass/plastic cover.

No, I am not a member of PETA.

vinnie · Post by **vinnie** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 5:34 am

I don't like squashing bugs

I prefer to use a cupped hand, relying on the overpressure to stun them, at which point they fall down and I then can stand on them

Calm down, deep breath, they're little bugs, you'll be okay

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 5:36 am

Originally posted by vinnie
Calm down, deep breath, they're little bugs, you'll be okay

try saying that as a black widow's crawling across your hand...

Dakota · Post by **Dakota** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 5:54 am

Originally posted by Bouncer

Are you perchance a member of PETA?

Regards,
-Bouncer-

I am! People Eating Tasty Animals

cho · Post by **cho** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 1:08 am

Originally posted by lonewolfz28
O.K. I'll kill the bugs, give them to you to eat so they aren't wasted and enjoy my 3 day weekend.

Never stepped on a cockroach huh? You haven't lived until you've stomped out a cockroach.

I don't have cockroaches thankfully, but I hear they are a bugger to kill ( no pun intended).

The only insects I kill in my house are things like ants nests because that falls under protection. The damage they can cause to the house will hurt the market value.

Any other stray bugs I find I just pick them up and throw them out the nearest window. Spiders I leave be cause I don't like them.

9mmprincess · Post by **9mmprincess** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 1:19 am

i kill spiders in my house because im scared of them-i have a phobia, if i let it just walk away i will not stop thinking about it and wont be able to sleep for fear its going to crawl on me. but moths, centipedes, beetles get scooped up on a paper and deposited outside.

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 1:39 am

Killing insects are a difficult subject for garnering sympathy, however I do very much see your point. Not only does it exemplify peoples' callousness, but it is quite possibly the stepping stone to the killing of higher forms for the sake of entertainment

"Watch blood on the eighteen inch screen, the corpse is the new personality" - "5:45" Gang of Four.

shant,
david

vinnie · Post by **vinnie** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:21 am

Spiders it depends on the type of spider and what it's doing. Redbacks (Latrodectus hasseltii), who do actually belong to the Black Widow family (Latrodectus), have a habit of taking up residence under our outdoor table and chairs. We tend to kill them, as having dinner guests killed wouldn't make us very popular.

Other spiders though are quite welcome in the garden or in the house, as long as they stay in their own little corner. Our bathroom has up to five daddy-longlegs living in it, they sit there quitely and catch bugs. The only time I'll kill them is if they come out of the corner.

Brandon_k_W · Post by **Brandon_k_W** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:56 am

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 4:28 am

dude Brandone, put a warning on that next time!!

9mmprincess · Post by **9mmprincess** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:18 am

wow those spider pictures are really cool

i dont like seeing them in my house but at the same time i have a perverse fascination with them..if there is a show about spiders on tv i watch it, and i've looked them up on the internet before, to see which ones live in my area and if any of them are poisonous (sf has hobo spiders btw, which are almost as poisonous as brown recluse's), and i just generally find them really interesting- as long as theyre not in my house!

fascinating pictures

9mmprincess · Post by **9mmprincess** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:23 am

ps-hope it didnt take you too long to compile all those pictures!