Moded PS2 Package for Sale + 150 Games

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Moded PS2 Package for Sale + 150 Games

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Ok, accepting $$. Or a xbox....


ok, I got the following for it:

PS2 w/neo key mod chip

1 PS2 controler + 1 psx controler, they both look exactly the same except for
the color difference.

Game shark + dongle

Sony DVD Remote + Dongle

Sony 8 MB Memory Card

Vertical Stand tha incorperated 3 Memory card holder + a tower that resembles a
PS2 and hold 12 cds/dvd's

AV Cable

RF Adapter

Power Cable

All mauals and papers.
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And as for games I can include these

Orignals:
MotoGP
TimeSplitters
SSX
Twisted Metal Black
Ridge Racer V


And I can also include some back up games from my 150 PS2 List.

(E-mail me for list)
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so this isn't a PS2 that you buy at the store, you built it yourself right?

If so then that is damn smooth.

What is the preferred price? and do you have any pics to post of it?

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Its a PS2, but heavily modifed...

It plays back up's (copyed games)

Make me an offer.

I'll post some Pic's tommorow.

BTW, I tryed Iming you on AIM, but you don't respond.
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cool I will look forward to the pics

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Do you legally own the original versions of these games?

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The 5 games that are included are already originals, the other ones I have a legally authority to obtain them.
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where are them pics at?
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Post by Brk »

Originally posted by ps2wiz
The 5 games that are included are already originals, the other ones I have a legally authority to obtain them.


Well for one, mod chips are illegal, whether installed already or not.

Secondly, who exactly gave you this "legal authority"?
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Post by Jim »

Originally posted by Burke
Well for one, mod chips are illegal, whether installed already or not.

Secondly, who exactly gave you this "legal authority"?
As far as I'm concerned, despite the fact that the vast majority of modders use them for illegal purposes, I still keep my stance that mod chips aren't the problem themselves. Yes, they fall into a grey area (at best), but they also have legitimate purposes (which still may or may not be illegal).

As far as "legal authority" to obtain, duplicate, and sell (150) unauthorized copies of copyrighted materials? I guess I can leave it at this: If you're getting your legal advice from some other 14 year old in some warez IRC room, you need to find some new friends before it bites you in the ass. The closest you could come to being legit on those 150 games is if you did in fact own all of the originals (as Bouncer asked you), and sold them with the only backup copies. Since you only have six "original" games, that seems unlikely.

Unfortunately, you give modders in the import community a bad name, and are the reason the ESA takes the Nazi-like anti-piracy stance regarding legitimate mods and backups. If you still want to be a little felon, then peddle your warez elsewhere.
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How much?
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Originally posted by Jim
Unfortunately, you give modders in the import community a bad name, and are the reason the ESA takes the Nazi-like anti-piracy stance regarding legitimate mods and backups. If you still want to be a little felon, then peddle your warez elsewhere.

Well, after being appalled by your lacking of judgment remarks. You should take your badly informed squabble some where else. If you had any intelligence, you would know that it would be up to the purchaser to concur that he is in the possession of the original carbon copy. In accumulation to you thick remark, you should have had the common sense to differ that “warez” and games are not alike. Once again, a little use of brain power should of signaled to you that “warez” AKA SOFTWARE! All come with an End User Agreement. Were as, shockingly may I add. Games do not. Maybe you should just scull your fascist wise crack out of my thread. And go join the RIAA or the fascist party, them both seems to fit in with your unwise character.
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PãradØxDêit¥™, make am offer.

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Post by Brk »

Originally posted by ps2wiz
PãradØxDêit¥™, make am offer.

neo@digizip.com


Besides the questionable legality of the items for sale, you also did not read the sticky as to the rules for selling. This isn't an auction site. State your price.
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Originally posted by ps2wiz
Well, after being appalled by your lacking of judgment remarks. You should take your badly informed squabble some where else. If you had any intelligence, you would know that it would be up to the purchaser to concur that he is in the possession of the original carbon copy. In accumulation to you thick remark, you should have had the common sense to differ that “warez” and games are not alike. Once again, a little use of brain power should of signaled to you that “warez” AKA SOFTWARE! All come with an End User Agreement. Were as, shockingly may I add. Games do not. Maybe you should just scull your fascist wise crack out of my thread. And go join the RIAA or the fascist party, them both seems to fit in with your unwise character.
If someone is downloading copyrighted material (in this case software) illegally, be it a copy of Photoshop or Madden 2004, it's "warez" in my book. You can use semantics to twist it however you want, but it looks like a duck, and it definitely quacks like a duck. The only person who'll believe that it's anything else is you (and your little buddies).

Claiming that your selling of copied PS2 games is legal simply because its up to the purchaser to own the originals is a poor attempt at using the law to shield you, and it simply wouldn't stand up when challenged. Yes, in US copyright law, section 117(2) allows you to make a personal backup of software (including games) that you legally possess. However, that does not allow you to make a backup for someone else who legally possesses the original, nor does it allow you to transfer/sell the backups unless your original copy is transferred as well (which is not the case), and even that's only with authorization from the copyright holder. That is, of course, the law, so you're free to break it if you choose to do so. However, attempting to pervert the law into a nice package that'll allow you to do this won't fly.

As far as games not coming with an EULA, quite a few of them do, at least on the PC side. On the console end of things, it tends to be limited to the "limited warranty" section on the back of the manual, although some games do come with an expanded warning (often within the game). Most of the PS2 games should include a section that informs you that this is copyrighted materials, and that it may not be copied (in whole or in part), reproduced, translated, etc. without prior written consent from Sony (in the case of PS2 games) and the respective publisher/developer. The fact that these games are copied is already a violation of the EULA (especially since you probably downloaded them, as opposed to making a personal backup from originals that you own), even if it isn't a violation of the law (which, in your case, is).

"Badly informed?" Hardly. "Unwise character?" Puh-leeze. "Fascist wise crack?" Give me a break. If I wanted to be a **AA fanboy, I would've busted your chops on the simple fact that modding a system and copying a game (for ANY reason) are both DMCA violations.

I'm so sorry that you feel justified in stealing games, under the guise of whatever lame excuse is the rage this week (let me ask, is it overpriced games or crappy games at the moment?). In the end, you'll be the cause of why this industry is hurting, but you'll probably be the last one to accept responsibility for it (despite the fact that you'll probably be one of the first to cast a stone).

I am a big fan of fair use, and the benefits it allows. I do believe people should be able to create their own backup copies of software if they choose to do so for their own personal purposes. I do believe that current copyright laws such as the DMCA (which tends to be draconian at best) overstep the line in favor of the copyright holders at the expense of the consumer or end user. HOWEVER, it is someone like you who is the reason such laws exist in the first place. The reason my fair use rights have been stepped on is because of people like you, who feel entitled to your 200-CD binders filled with copied games. Do I sound condescending or supercilious towards you? Yeah. Want to know why? Because I have nothing but contempt towards your actions. You are the root of the problem, and sooner or later, I hope somebody will take care of it if you won't.

Grow up and listen to something beyond your "I deserve everything free" mentality. And if you decide that isn't how you'd like to live things, keep it off Speedguide.
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Every orignal work has implied Copyright. If you do not legally own the original copies of those games it is illegal to use/sell them, period.
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