AMD's Opteron

Duzmor · Post by **Duzmor** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:57 am

Good read on the AMD Opteron used on a Desktop PC

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3 ... 441,00.asp

Duz !!

Shagster · Post by **Shagster** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:24 am

They suck. I want whatever they codenamed "the san diego"

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:50 pm

and why do they suck?

mvern2 · Post by **mvern2** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:27 pm

lets not forget that this is the first generation of AMD's new design. So i wouldn't be making any judgements just yet. Give it till the second generation or even third and AMD gould make the Opterton (and eventually Athlon 64) a lot better and faster!

Shagster · Post by **Shagster** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:28 pm

Because shaggy said so. :2cool:

They barely outperform mp's for the price.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:33 pm

Originally posted by Shaggy
Because shaggy said so. :2cool:

They barely outperform mp's for the price.

prices can change adn dont forget how low the clock is on them. love to get one going over 2ghz

mvern2 · Post by **mvern2** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:28 pm

They barely outperform mp's for the price.

in time my dear shaggy...in due time!

ScottE · Post by **ScottE** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:11 pm

Originally posted by Shaggy
Because shaggy said so. :2cool:

They barely outperform mp's for the price.

Wait for Windows 64.

Faust · Post by **Faust** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:29 pm

Originally posted by Shaggy
Because shaggy said so. :2cool:

They barely outperform mp's for the price.

kind of an unfair comparison, don't you think? and besides, there isn;t much out there yet to really take advantage of what the Opteron has to offer.

unrefined? immature? (the Opteron, i mean) sure. but "suck"? i wouldn;t say that. just my opinion, mind you. not trying to say your opinion is wrong.

and also..... can you give more info on how poorly they perform compared to an Athlon MP? i have read a bit to the contrary. yes, the margin isn;t huge (yet), but the side-by-side comparison to the newest P4s would seem to prove the opposite to be true.

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:31 pm

Waiting for the software to catch up is not an enviable position for a hardware manufacturer. This hobby/ vocation is about what you can do now.

Shagster · Post by **Shagster** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:14 am

We will see.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:44 am

"We" are jacked.....

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:24 am

Originally posted by Faust
kind of an unfair comparison, don't you think? and besides, there isn;t much out there yet to really take advantage of what the Opteron has to offer.

unrefined? immature? (the Opteron, i mean) sure. but "suck"? i wouldn;t say that. just my opinion, mind you. not trying to say your opinion is wrong.

and also..... can you give more info on how poorly they perform compared to an Athlon MP? i have read a bit to the contrary. yes, the margin isn;t huge (yet), but the side-by-side comparison to the newest P4s would seem to prove the opposite to be true.

At this point, the MP's actually fold about the same as the Opterons. It will change when 64 bit programs, not just an OS become available to them. When...

tHE_0ne · Post by **tHE_0ne** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:14 pm

Originally posted by Shaggy
They suck. I want whatever they codenamed "the san diego"

I remember they had those chips @ 800mhz vs 1.6Ghz intel chip, I can tell you Intel got pwned

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 2:06 pm

the operton doesnt need a 64bit OS to get it going, it needs higher frequencies.

they need to offer 2ghz and 2.2ghz, and that price HAS TO COME DOWN!

ScottE · Post by **ScottE** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 7:46 pm

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
the operton doesnt need a 64bit OS to get it going, it needs higher frequencies.

they need to offer 2ghz and 2.2ghz, and that price HAS TO COME DOWN!

Wait for the Athlon-64 or whatever they are calling the next Desktop chip.

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Mon Aug 18, 2003 6:34 am

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
the operton doesnt need a 64bit OS to get it going, it needs higher frequencies.

they need to offer 2ghz and 2.2ghz, and that price HAS TO COME DOWN!

Without 64 bit programs, it is only a bit better than the Barton class. For AMD's sake, I hope Adobe, who is usually very quick to adopt, markets its programs with 64 bit extensions.

Shagster · Post by **Shagster** » Mon Aug 18, 2003 10:07 am

What ram are they using for the 64bit?

And it is **** on 32bit systems for the price, like I said

Windows 2003 enterprise has a 64bit version

ub3r_n00b · Post by **ub3r_n00b** » Mon Aug 18, 2003 12:48 pm

Originally posted by Shaggy
What ram are they using for the 64bit?

And it is **** on 32bit systems for the price, like I said

Windows 2003 enterprise has a 64bit version

yar but no support for opteron yet..

-Preet

Shagster · Post by **Shagster** » Mon Aug 18, 2003 1:22 pm

Originally posted by ub3r_n00b
yar but no support for opteron yet..

-Preet

Microsoft has a beta though