I found this on the German news. Tagesschau is the most trusted and most reliable source of news in Germany, IMO. Since I have been unable to find an English link on this topic, I have translated the article for you guys. As I don't have the original text, the quotes are not necessarily literally. Hence my search for the original.
Have you heard anything like this in the US news?
Wolfowitz demasks
The US deputy secretary of defense, Paul Wolfowitz, admitted that the issue of WOMD in Iraq were primarily used as justification for the war in Iraq because of political reasons. The WOMD of Iraq were never the USA's primary reason for the war, Wolfowitz said in an interview with the british magazine "Vanity Fair". The US administration concentrated on this justification because of "bureaucratic reasons", since this was an issue that everyone could have agreed upon, Wolfowitz said.
Rumsfeld: "Weapons of Mass Destruction no smoke screen"
US secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, meanwhile denied that WOMD were merely a pretense for the war. He is now just as much convinced as ever that the administration of Saddam Hussein had biological and chemical weapons, Rumsfeld said.
Blair believes in WOMD in Iraq
Also Great Britain's Prime Minister, Tony Blair, does not doubt that evidence of WOMD in Iraq will be found, according to his own statements. During a visit in Poland he said that he is sure that the weapons will surface after searches of suspected sites and interrogation of Iraqi scientists. The WOMD were not just the imagination of intelligence agencies.
The US and UK used the existence of WOMD in Iraq as justification for the war. These weapons have not been found, however.
Originally posted by Faust you see, it;s things like this that make it hard for me to readily give ANY credibility to ANY public news source.
doesn;t matter to me if it;s CNN, FOX or even AP.
all sources of mass public media are flitered and/or controlled. and the smaller news sources are either unreliable or prone to conspiracy theories.
i mean, how do we really know what we see/hear/read in terms of news is really whats going on?
answer:
we don't.
Yes, and that's what is pissing me off...
Thanks guys, but I didn't ask if anyone supported the war or not, I merely wanted to know if similar information is spread in the US. If not, I'd wonder if Wolfowitz actually stated this. I WANT TO FIND OUT.
heh... just reread your post, Ronald... (didnt see your first comment).
had my Caps Lock key all set to start yelling and everything .
i am a skeptic, regardless of the context. so skeptical that if i were told the truth, i probably wouldn't believe it. i guess it;s a handicap at times.
Looking back at the spotlight the administration cast on the weapons issue in building its case for war, Wolfowitz said, "There was no oversell." But he acknowledged yesterday that there "had been a tendency to emphasize the WMD [weapons of mass destruction] issue" as the primary justification for war because of differences of opinion within the administration over the strength of other charges against the Iraqi government, including its alleged ties to al Qaeda.
"The issue of WMD has never been in controversy," Wolfowitz said, "where there's been a lot of arguing back and forth about whether the Iraqis were involved in terrorism."
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Originally posted by Faust i am a skeptic, regardless of the context. so skeptical that if i were told the truth, i probably wouldn't believe it. i guess it;s a handicap at times.
Hey question everything because nothing is as it appears.
------ “The most beautiful thing we can experience in life is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: for his eyes are closed.” - Albert Einstein
i think the saddest part is that most people dont care about the truth, regardless of what it is. Given the recent past, I'm under the impression the majority of the american public would support ANY war bush put forth; if only to avoid being considered anti-patriotic.
they'd sit back in thier armchairs, ordering take-out from applebees, crying when they're supposed to cry and cheering when they're supposed to cheer.
What most people don't understand is that getting rid of Saddam is part of a bigger plan than just getting rid of WOMD. There can be NO peace between Israel and Palestinians while Saddam was in power threatening the region and supporting suicide terrorism against Israel. Who the hell cares if they do have the weapons or not. Whether the weapons were a threat to the US is a whole different story but you gotta be the most naive and misinformed person in the world to believe that Iraq does not actually have WOMD. When you KNOW the man Saddam really was you would understand why.
If the palestinian-israeli conflict does not settle down, the US will continue to fully support Israel and the same level violence and terrorism will continue all over the world. At times like these, I am glad we have a republican in the White House instead of that pansy Gore.
------ “The most beautiful thing we can experience in life is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: for his eyes are closed.” - Albert Einstein
Originally posted by zooner i think the saddest part is that most people dont care about the truth, regardless of what it is. Given the recent past, I'm under the impression the majority of the american public would support ANY war bush put forth; if only to avoid being considered anti-patriotic.
they'd sit back in thier armchairs, ordering take-out from applebees, crying when they're supposed to cry and cheering when they're supposed to cheer.
I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand. UNSCOM destroyed thousands of WOMD before they were kicked out....they did not get the opportunity to destroy them all nor did they get the chance to finish inspecting the remaining sites.
Now if everyone would use some common sense and logic it would stand to reason that Iraq did in fact have WOMD.
All this media speculation makes me wanna puke. UNSCOM told the world in it's report after they were kicked out that they did NOT FINSIH THEIR MANDATE!!!!!!
Let's break this down Barney style.
Iraq has 1000 apples.
Unscom finds and destroys 800 apples.
How many apples are left?
200.
It is Iraq's RESPONSIBILITY to report the condition and whereabouts of the 200 remaining apples....it was ALWAYS Iraq's responsibility but no one cared to enforce it until it was too damn late.
Friggin world procrastination at it's best! And yes...I include the good ol US of A in that group as well.
This whole mess is the result of our decisions to put leaders in office who can't make a damn decision and stick with it. Great leaders make tough decisions and see them through...if they are bad decisions, they take full responsibility.
Originally posted by SeedOfChaos Yes, that is/was the essence of this thread... in this particular case misinterpretation from the part of even the "most reliable" source...
Thanks all for helping me out here .
I totally agree...I'm just sick of every "expert" and their so called expert opinion. Everyone has an angle and to me the angle is all about profit. How can I profit from this mess.
Iraq will be the media's whipping boy for the next decade.
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