Circumcision anyone?
And this is sick. Who Nut dont do it plz. For your sons sake do it. I hope you know cause of you letting your wife make the descions your son will be in a world of pain. God help if someone finds out that is wang hasnt been circ cause he will be made fun of more you think a girl will wanna be with him if his **** isnt. I hope he will be very happy when he can understand what his parents didnt have done for him. I hope your son will enjoy have a dog ****.
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For medical reasons, both even out.
As for religious reasons, I seriously dont understand why a male should be circumsized and why women dont have to be. Women are born with lips down there(extra skin). For religious reasons, how come a male should have their extra skin cut off while a women's extra skin stays? Please explain or inform me if my statement is incorrect.
As for religious reasons, I seriously dont understand why a male should be circumsized and why women dont have to be. Women are born with lips down there(extra skin). For religious reasons, how come a male should have their extra skin cut off while a women's extra skin stays? Please explain or inform me if my statement is incorrect.
ha ha ha haOriginally posted by colour
howcome god made it like that?
IF THERE IS A GOD....
then how come god lets little kids die horrible deaths?
how come god let aids out?
why did god let Manson kill people?
why does god punish good people with MS,& cancer & whatever else?
wow!!!
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Uncircumsized beef looks disturbingly like "pigs in a blanket". *snausages, snausages!*
Just picture it for a while...(if you enjoy that sorta thing
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Personally I think the whole "Circumcision is unnecessary" stance is just ignorant, rebelious behaviour.
And to have an interest in increasing your childs sexual pleasure??? That's just the last thing I would worry about if I had a................
Excuse me. I have to go knock on wood now.
Just picture it for a while...(if you enjoy that sorta thing
)Personally I think the whole "Circumcision is unnecessary" stance is just ignorant, rebelious behaviour.
And to have an interest in increasing your childs sexual pleasure??? That's just the last thing I would worry about if I had a................
Excuse me. I have to go knock on wood now.
The case for (according to SG members):
1. Everyone else is doing it, your child will be laughed at.
2. It's dirty, and will need cleaning.
3. God didn't intend for us to have a foreskin, we need to finish his work.
4. It's ugly.
If you have the time, read the following justification for the mutilation of millions of women throughout history. It is amazing what we can convince ourselves of when we are blinded by tradition.
1. Everyone else is doing it, your child will be laughed at.
2. It's dirty, and will need cleaning.
3. God didn't intend for us to have a foreskin, we need to finish his work.
4. It's ugly.
If you have the time, read the following justification for the mutilation of millions of women throughout history. It is amazing what we can convince ourselves of when we are blinded by tradition.
Circumcision has been popular among African women for many thousands of years. Western pressure groups attempt to blackmail African nations into banning the custom, but whenever moves are made to do this, the streets are filled with happy circumcised women demonstrating their desire to protect their daughters' right to enjoy the same benefits.
Here are some of the most obvious things that a girl gains when she is circumcised:
* it is a rite of passage and proof of adulthood. One day she is a girl; the next, a woman;
* it raises her status in her community, both because of the added purity that circumcision brings and the bravery that initiates are called upon to show;
* it confers maturity and inculcates positive character traits, including the ability to endure pain and a submissive nature;
* the circumcision ritual is an enjoyable one, in which the girl is the centre of attention and receives presents and moral instruction from her elders;
* it creates a bond between the generations, as all women in that society must undergo it and thus have shared an important experience;
* the girl will never have her conscience troubled by lustful thoughts or sensations or temptations such as masturbation;
* there is little or no risk of premarital relationships which end in heartbreak or the stigma and social difficulties of illegitimate birth (this is especially so with full circumcision, i.e. all impure tissue is removed and the girl is sewn up until her wedding night);
* the bond between husband and wife is closer because neither will have had sex with anyone else and the relationship will be motivated by love rather than primarily lust, because there will be no physical drive for the women, only an emotional one;
* there is no incentive for extramarital sex, hence marriages are made more secure;
* there will be far fewer rapes (especially in the case of full circumcision);
* marriages are also made closer because the emphasis is taken away from sexual technique and performance;
* children are better cared-for because there is less incentive for a marriage to break up, and because the husband can be more confident that the children are his.
There are many ills in today's Western society which could easily be eradicated by the adoption of universal female circumcision with infibulation at puberty. Think of the positive impact on the teenage pregnancy rate in the US, which has been linked to the rise of crime and ghettoisation, especially for minorities. And it would create more peaceful, satisfied women - at the moment females are told that this little nub of skin, a vestigial *****, should have awesome phallic power. For most of them, it just doesn't, which creates dissatisfaction.
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A very difficult subject to discuss at the best of times... 
Actually what i found with my oldest son was the high number of Oriental doctors we have in Canada make it difficult to even get it done. Our Doctor was on vacation when #1 son was born andall the staff doctors at the hospital refused to do it because of their beliefs, we had to take him back later after doc gt home to get it done. Doctors let their personal and religious beliefs over shadow their medical dicissions
#2 son was 4 hours old when he was rushed to sick kids because of his heart. The issue finnaly came up later and the doctors did not feel his heart could take the tramma from having it done.
Hence 14 years later, try explaining to a 14 year old boy why he is different than everyone else, different then dad, different then brother and step brother and all his friends. Explanations do not make it any easier for a 14 year old boy to understand why he IS DIFFERENT. At that age it is difficult enough for a 14 year old to feel part of the world but when his MANHOOD is so different how can he. Then throw in the internet, and boys will be boys and what do they see? Pictures of women with men who are circumsized, this only enforces on the 14 year old that he IS DIFFERENT. It is a shame that we as a species are so stupid that this is an issue but it is.
There were many medical reasons for not having my #2 son cut, none of these reasons were to do with circumsition .
Some of the side effects on not having it done are depression, loneliness, anger and there are more.
Actually what i found with my oldest son was the high number of Oriental doctors we have in Canada make it difficult to even get it done. Our Doctor was on vacation when #1 son was born andall the staff doctors at the hospital refused to do it because of their beliefs, we had to take him back later after doc gt home to get it done. Doctors let their personal and religious beliefs over shadow their medical dicissions
#2 son was 4 hours old when he was rushed to sick kids because of his heart. The issue finnaly came up later and the doctors did not feel his heart could take the tramma from having it done.
Hence 14 years later, try explaining to a 14 year old boy why he is different than everyone else, different then dad, different then brother and step brother and all his friends. Explanations do not make it any easier for a 14 year old boy to understand why he IS DIFFERENT. At that age it is difficult enough for a 14 year old to feel part of the world but when his MANHOOD is so different how can he. Then throw in the internet, and boys will be boys and what do they see? Pictures of women with men who are circumsized, this only enforces on the 14 year old that he IS DIFFERENT. It is a shame that we as a species are so stupid that this is an issue but it is.
There were many medical reasons for not having my #2 son cut, none of these reasons were to do with circumsition .
Some of the side effects on not having it done are depression, loneliness, anger and there are more.
Originally posted by WhoNut
The case for (according to SG members):
1. Everyone else is doing it, your child will be laughed at.
2. It's dirty, and will need cleaning.
3. God didn't intend for us to have a foreskin, we need to finish his work.
4. It's ugly.
If you have the time, read the following justification for the mutilation of millions of women throughout history. It is amazing what we can convince ourselves of when we are blinded by tradition.
listen man!!!! relax and leave his pecker alone then!
you have obviously already made up your mind !
or do you just want an argument?
or are you really still unsure?
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the devil put the foreskin there? or did god get lazy?Originally posted by WhoNut
The case for (according to SG members):
3. God didn't intend for us to have a foreskin, we need to finish his work.
about female circumcision, they actually stitch the vagina closed save for a hole for urine and blood.
thats a little bit different from male circumcision, it is interesting though why it is done in the first place. being uncut is only strange because being cut as been done for so long and accepted, for no apparent reason.
the situation could of easily been the other way...
asdf?
Originally posted by crazyman
listen man!!!! relax and leave his pecker alone then!
you have obviously already made up your mind !
or do you just want an argument?
or are you really still unsure?
Lighten up dan, I never asked whether or not I should cut my children. I have an opinion, just like you. I was only looking to start a discussion on why it is (in many cases) an automatic decision for a parent.
My mind is made up, but I find it interesting to see other's viewpoints, and was hoping for some insight.
When they kick at your front door, how you gonna come? With your hands at your head, or the trigger of your gun?
* marriages are also made closer because the emphasis is taken away from sexual technique and performance;
I thought this was the best one...
As for me, I like having sensations "down there" , lucky man who doesn`t have to worry about the woman`s pleasure. If a man has a circumcision he still has sexual pleasure, but for the woman it would be over...Sounds fair to me...
As a woman, not to judge, but I personally like a circumcised man. Our youngest son isn`t, but the other 2 are. I have 2 son`s of my own, and I had them done, partially because I always thought that was the way they were supposed to be. It wasn`t until I was older that I saw one uncircumcised, and let me tell you, I was very glad that I circumcised my sons. As someone posted..It looks like a dogs*****, yes it does.
** Chris and I each have two son`s from previous lives..His two live with us, and my youngest does also. My oldest son lives on his own.**
Just to clarify any confusion I have made.
A man`s **** is a yummy treat,
but too much skin, makes it hard to eat.
I thought this was the best one...
As for me, I like having sensations "down there" , lucky man who doesn`t have to worry about the woman`s pleasure. If a man has a circumcision he still has sexual pleasure, but for the woman it would be over...Sounds fair to me...
As a woman, not to judge, but I personally like a circumcised man. Our youngest son isn`t, but the other 2 are. I have 2 son`s of my own, and I had them done, partially because I always thought that was the way they were supposed to be. It wasn`t until I was older that I saw one uncircumcised, and let me tell you, I was very glad that I circumcised my sons. As someone posted..It looks like a dogs*****, yes it does.
** Chris and I each have two son`s from previous lives..His two live with us, and my youngest does also. My oldest son lives on his own.**
Just to clarify any confusion I have made.
A man`s **** is a yummy treat,
but too much skin, makes it hard to eat.
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Originally posted by WhoNut
Lighten up dan, I never asked whether or not I should cut my children. I have an opinion, just like you. I was only looking to start a discussion on why it is (in many cases) an automatic decision for a parent.
My mind is made up, but I find it interesting to see other's viewpoints, and was hoping for some insight.
NO MAN!! THATS IT! I HAVE HAD WITH YOU!
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Well, it's too bad I don't have time to read all of the thread (I'm going to Germany in a few minutes...). I just want to say:
- I am not circumsized, as are most of the men in Europe. My private area does NOT look like that of a dog or a pig.
- Europe has a lesser HIV infection rate than the US
- I do not and did not have any STD's or other infections in that area, I regularly wash myself.
- I have never been made fun of because of it (not even a US girl that I slept with...)
- I do not think either (circumsized or not) looks funny or strange
- I enjoy sex, and I'm pretty sure that other guys do too, circumsized or not.
I'd say clean them when they're young and let them choose themselves. Make fun of me, I don't care, I happen to like my body the way it is: NATURAL.
Cheers,
Ronald
- I am not circumsized, as are most of the men in Europe. My private area does NOT look like that of a dog or a pig.
- Europe has a lesser HIV infection rate than the US
- I do not and did not have any STD's or other infections in that area, I regularly wash myself.
- I have never been made fun of because of it (not even a US girl that I slept with...)
- I do not think either (circumsized or not) looks funny or strange
- I enjoy sex, and I'm pretty sure that other guys do too, circumsized or not.
I'd say clean them when they're young and let them choose themselves. Make fun of me, I don't care, I happen to like my body the way it is: NATURAL.
Cheers,
Ronald
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Surprised no one has quoted that yet.A man`s **** is a yummy treat,
but too much skin, makes it hard to eat.
Anyway, Ronald. I hope you didnt think I was calling uncircumsized people inferior or unclean. It just looks funny to me, considering that I dont see all that many in the first place (lesbian pr0n is bestest).
WhoNut,
Back in 1982 when my first son was born, I was 22 years old. I went with what was normal to me. Whether or not my son is circumcised in irrelevant here.
What you are doing is right, you're doing what you think is best for your child and nobody else's opinion really matters. Either way we as parents take the responsibility for our actions and move on.
It's unfortunate that when posting a thread for insight, you get flamed due to ignorance. For those of us who have had to make this decision, it was ours to make. Hindsight may follow, but that's another story.
BMED
Back in 1982 when my first son was born, I was 22 years old. I went with what was normal to me. Whether or not my son is circumcised in irrelevant here.
What you are doing is right, you're doing what you think is best for your child and nobody else's opinion really matters. Either way we as parents take the responsibility for our actions and move on.
It's unfortunate that when posting a thread for insight, you get flamed due to ignorance. For those of us who have had to make this decision, it was ours to make. Hindsight may follow, but that's another story.
BMED
i think its a personal decision. i know that when my son is born i will have his little winky cut. not because everyone is doing it, but because it is cleaner and prevents illnesses. but i dont want to see them do it because i'll probably freak out. maybe his dad can do that part. i'll pop him out and his dad can be there with him when he gets cut. i dont know. but it'll be done.
but cool thread... lots of info i needed to know! see ya learn something new everyday.
but cool thread... lots of info i needed to know! see ya learn something new everyday.
Originally posted by BMED
WhoNut,
Back in 1982 when my first son was born, I was 22 years old. I went with what was normal to me. Whether or not my son is circumcised in irrelevant here.
What you are doing is right, you're doing what you think is best for your child and nobody else's opinion really matters. Either way we as parents take the responsibility for our actions and move on.
It's unfortunate that when posting a thread for insight, you get flamed due to ignorance. For those of us who have had to make this decision, it was ours to make. Hindsight may follow, but that's another story.
BMED
Have to agree with BMED here. WhoNut came here looking for discussion. Not the (once again) I'm right, your wrong thing.
After reading all these post from people who should have or should think about going into surgery. I'm beggining to wonder. Since they can't be wrong, and since it's only been a few thousand years since man has been whacking off the end of his *****, it makes me wonder.
Either there are a ton of people here that must be wrong about the health part or mother nature must be wrong.
G_d forbid anyone from here could be wrong so it must be mother nature. We need to send her an email.
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what are you talking about? whonut asked for our opinions!Originally posted by BMED
It's unfortunate that when posting a thread for insight, you get flamed due to ignoranceBMED
"What's your take on it?"
whether or not you call it flaming or passionate opinions,or whatever,is up to you.
but I think he got our INSIGHT.
whats wrong with that?
he was not called a bad man for feeling that way,we just posted our thoughts as to why or why not!
and how we felt about the subject.
insight noun
(the ability to have) a clear, deep and sometimes sudden understanding of a complicated problem or situation
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Originally posted by crazyman
what are you talking about? whonut asked for our opinions!
"What's your take on it?"
whether or not you call it flaming or passionate opinions,or whatever,is up to you.
but I think he got our INSIGHT.
whats wrong with that?
he was not called a bad man for feeling that way,we just posted our thoughts as to why or why not!
and how we felt about the subject.
insight noun
(the ability to have) a clear, deep and sometimes sudden understanding of a complicated problem or situation
Well I'm not going to point fingers, but that only was my opinion that you quoted. I read the posts in this thread differently than you I quess!
Well I posted what I had to say here earlier, no sence in getting off the topic and taking this to another level....at least not today!
Originally posted by CompGeek83
WebMD - Cutting to the point on Circumcision
fitting title dont you think
Excellent link there CompGeek, though I doubt most here will read it.....
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LOL......Originally posted by Immortal
seriously.. if I can grow it back I'd like it back.. but oh well..
Canada has free health care. Can't you get an addadorktomie?
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You might want to join and organization like thisOriginally posted by Immortal
seriously.. if I can grow it back I'd like it back.. but oh well..