The next President?

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:37 am

Xpunge wrote:Now here is some genuine funny!

Do you mean "something" and "genuinely"?

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:04 am

Xpunge wrote:His link goes to a singular post, not the entire thread, Roody "the agenda" failed in his attempt.

Please stop with the sucking up, it unbecoming, your choice.

Xpunge, if you can't make a remark that stands by itself then don't make it. Attempting to suggest your comment was taken out of context is flawed. You stated in that post that you are a Registered Democrat. That is without dispute. Now you are trying to spin that it was taken out of context. Next time when you make a post don't make them with an incomplete thought if that is in fact your argument.

As for Jeremy he has no problem standing up for himself and he certainly isn't sucking up to me. I do appreciate his words, but Jeremy has in fact disagreed with me when he thought I was wrong. Sucking up is the furthest thing from the truth.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:24 am

Roody wrote:Xpunge, if you can't make a remark that stands by itself then don't make it. Attempting to suggest your comment was taken out of context is flawed. You stated in that post that you are a Registered Democrat. That is without dispute. Now you are trying to spin that it was taken out of context. Next time when you make a post don't make them with an incomplete thought if that is in fact your argument.

Come on roody, post a link to post 24 and 25, post a screen cap, come one, you must have it at the ready....agenda.

Bottom line, you were part of the conversation in the thread that I CLEARLY stated that I had changed to decline to state from democrat, you convienetly cut the sceen cap and posted to a singular post rather than to the entire conversation, agenda, you knew 100% that I had stated that I had changed to decline to state, yet left that out of this thread,agenda,

You are trying to say I am one thing or another in THIS thread when YOU know for a fact I've stated diferently,agenda.

just post a link roody, i'll let it go after you post a link to post 24 and 25. we'll call you teh winnar after that. you can do it "bobby bucher"!

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:26 am

Roody wrote: As for Jeremy.....

comedy gold.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:43 pm

Xpunge wrote:Come on roody, post a link to post 24 and 25, post a screen cap, come one, you must have it at the ready....agenda.

Bottom line, you were part of the conversation in the thread that I CLEARLY stated that I had changed to decline to state from democrat, you convienetly cut the sceen cap and posted to a singular post rather than to the entire conversation, agenda, you knew 100% that I had stated that I had changed to decline to state, yet left that out of this thread,agenda,

You are trying to say I am one thing or another in THIS thread when YOU know for a fact I've stated diferently,agenda.

just post a link roody, i'll let it go after you post a link to post 24 and 25. we'll call you teh winnar after that. you can do it "bobby bucher"!

This is one debate you are in over your head with.

Let's take a look at your remarks.

Here is your comment in post #20 of this thread. Notice the bolded part.

Xpunge wrote:I never claimed I am registered democract. I am registered decline to declare after leaving the California democrat party.

we've been through this already you and I, are you drunk? or just have a short memory problem?

Now let's take a look at your quote in the Obama offers a sweetheart deal thread.

Xpunge wrote:I have been a registered Democrat my entire adult life.

End of personal info dissemination.

See why you have been proven wrong? If not let me spell it out for you. You claimed in this thread that you NEVER said you were a registered Democrat, yet I clearly showed that at one point you did. You claim you changed to decline to state yet that is irrelevant because you still in fact said you were a Registered Democrat. You flip flopped and then when called on it with facts you attempted to backtrack. If nothing else show us that you are man enough to admit when you are wrong because you were most definitely wrong when saying you never stated as much.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:58 pm

Roody wrote:I have a agenda.....

OK roodster, I'm going to put it together for you, I'll post everything here where i said i was registered decline to sate and such showing your ACCUSATION that I was never a democrat in this thread moot and obviously proving your sad, sad, sad delusional agenda.

roody, the conservatives aren't out to get ya!

I'll Take my time and set it up showing you KNEW I had stated I had changed registration to decline to state.

lets not forget, this all started at your ACCUSATION that "There is no way at all you are a registered democrat" direct quote from your gobb.

this is really sad the way you've tried to spin this.

LOL

Just post screen caps and links to post 24 and 25 of the thread you and I conversed about this on Jan. 20th and I'll walk away, not another peep.

your choice!

Sarahnn · Post by **Sarahnn** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:59 pm

Roody wrote:A moderator is allowed to call BS and I did when you got caught in a lie. You are right I did apologize to sava because that's the thing to do when someone is wrong. You got caught showing that you did admit to being a dem. You can at least admit you were wrong there also otherwise you got no room to lecture me.

Im not going to jump in for anyone. I would rather remain neutral. But I have a question.

If someone takes the time to register their "decline" to be recognized as any specific party member, isn't that the same as saying you are not presently calling yourself a Democrat, you are simply on their roster?

This could get complicated. If I decline to be recognized as a Democrat by the State, can I still call myself a Democrat to those who wish to pigeonhole me?

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:00 pm

Xpunge wrote:OK roodster, I'm going to put it together for you, I'll post everything here where i said i was registered decline to sate and such showing your ACCUSATION that I was never a democrat in this thread moot and obviously proving your sad, sad, sad delusional agenda.

roody, the conservatives aren't out to get ya!

I'll Take my time and set it up showing you KNEW I had stated I has changed registration to decline to state.

lets not forget, this all started at your ACCUSATION that "There is no way at all you are a registered democrat" direct quote from your gobb.

this is really sad the way you've tried to spin this.

LOL

Just post screen caps and links to post 24 and 25 of the thread you and I conversed about this on Jan. 20th and I'll walk away, not another peep.

your choice!

I have nothing left to prove. I already proved that your remark where you stated you NEVER were a registered Democrat was false. I did that with a quote, link and screen shot. I get that you won't concede a poor choice of words on your part hurt your argument. There is nothing left to say seeing as how you will not admit using the word NEVER hurt your argument.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:01 pm

Roody wrote:I have nothing left to prove. I already proved that your remark where you stated you NEVER were a registered Democrat was false. I did that with a quote, link and screen shot. I get that you won't concede a poor choice of words on your part hurt your argument. There is nothing left to say seeing as how you will not admit using the word NEVER hurt your argument.

Done, it is fun sticking a dogs nose in his own poop, no?. I kid!

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:03 pm

Sarahnn wrote:Im not going to jump in for anyone. I would rather remain neutral. But I have a question.

If someone takes the time to register their "decline" to be recognized as any specific party member, isn't that the same as saying you are not presently calling yourself a Democrat, you are simply on their roster?

This could get complicated. If I decline to be recognized as a Democrat by the State, can I still call myself a Democrat to those who wish to pigeonhole me?

The debate Sarahnn was whether or not Xpunge ever stated he was a registered dem. I showed that he did and despite proof to the contrary Xpunge has refused to admit as much. Feel free to start up a thread regarding party politics and how people are registered elsewhere and I assure you I will respond to it, but the last thing I want to do now is take away from what was the original debate between Xpunge and I.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:06 pm

Sarahnn wrote:Im not going to jump in for anyone. I would rather remain neutral. But I have a question.

If someone takes the time to register their "decline" to be recognized as any specific party member, isn't that the same as saying you are not presently calling yourself a Democrat, you are simply on their roster?

This could get complicated. If I decline to be recognized as a Democrat by the State, can I still call myself a Democrat to those who wish to pigeonhole me?

In California they were slowly moving to open primaries making party affiliation moot. As a registered decline to state I can still vote for democrats and any other party nominees other than the California republican party candidates (they got their panties in a wad over this). hopefully open primaries will be the norm here soon.

Sarahnn · Post by **Sarahnn** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:11 pm

Roody wrote:The debate Sarahnn was whether or not Xpunge ever stated he was a registered dem. I showed that he did and despite proof to the contrary Xpunge has refused to admit as much. Feel free to start up a thread regarding party politics and how people are registered elsewhere and I assure you I will respond to it, but the last thing I want to do now is take away from what was the original debate between Xpunge and I.

Oh, expunge said he NEVER was a Democrat? I must have missed that part. carry on.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:12 pm

Roody wrote:The debate Sarahnn was whether or not Xpunge ever stated he was a registered dem. ...

Dude, you must be drunk or mentally impared somehow!

http://forums.speedguide.net/showpost.p ... stcount=17

Roody wrote:There is no way at all you are a registered democrat....... .

This is the start of it all, you agenda to paint, label and obfuscate like downhill used to.

your slowly trying to twist this into something else all together.

your agenda is showing.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:38 pm

1-20-2010 11pm https://www.speedguide.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=268092

http://forums.speedguide.net/showpost.p ... stcount=23

Xpunge wrote:I have been a registered Democrat my entire adult life.
End of personal info dissemination.

11:18pm

http://forums.speedguide.net/showpost.p ... stcount=24

Roody wrote:hmmm could have sworn I saw you make a post once saying you left the Democrat party. Oh well just curious.

11:46pm

http://forums.speedguide.net/showpost.p ... stcount=25

Xpunge wrote:"decline to state" is allowed in CA., I wont let them use me as a statistic for them currently.

Here's the money shot..

http://forums.speedguide.net/showpost.p ... stcount=26

Roody wrote:That's interesting. I wasn't even aware there was an option like that. Wish more states offered it. The options we have now are just terrible from a party perspective. People are basically driven to choose the lesser of two evils in order to make a vote.

Sad really.

Today, 4-17-2010 https://www.speedguide.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=270141

http://forums.speedguide.net/showpost.p ... stcount=17

Roody wrote:There is no way at all you are a registered democrat. In your entire time here you have said literally nothing to suggest you are anything other then a die-hard Republican.

Yet post from the thread on 1-20 clearly show diferently and shows roody "the agenda" acknowloging this.

You FLATLY took this out of context knowing diferently showing that everything you conversed with me and posted towards me was agenda driven.

Failure at its best. But you have shown your true colors!

down- roody -hill this is sad for a mod, sad really.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:42 pm

Sarahnn wrote:Oh, expunge said he NEVER was a Democrat? I must have missed that part. carry on.

Yes he did in post 20 of this thread. Follow that up with his comments in the other thread and he clearly got caught in a contradiction. Now he's attempting to swim out of it.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:44 pm

Roody wrote:.... Feel free to start up a thread regarding party politics and how people are registered elsewhere and I assure you I will respond to it, but the last thing I want to do now is take away from what was the original debate between Xpunge and I.

HOLY CRAP! hellllo Mcfly! pot-kettle-black

Are you really telling Sarahnn to step out and not derail this thread? to start her own? you derailed this one starting post 17! HAHAhAhAhhahahahaAHahah

sad moderation.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:48 pm

Roody wrote:Yes he did in post 20 of this thread. Follow that up with his comments in the other thread and he clearly got caught in a contradiction. Now he's attempting to swim out of it.

http://forums.speedguide.net/showpost.p ... stcount=20

Xpunge wrote:I never claimed I am registered democract. I am registered decline to declare after leaving the California democrat party.

we've been through this already you and I, are you drunk? or just have a short memory problem?

lol, you go girl!

Keep trying down-roody-hill

Sarahnn · Post by **Sarahnn** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:57 pm

Roody wrote:Yes he did in post 20 of this thread. Follow that up with his comments in the other thread and he clearly got caught in a contradiction. Now he's attempting to swim out of it.

Here's what I read in post 20 by Xpunge, Roody.

I am registered decline to declare after leaving the California democrat party.

The fact that he left the Democratic party is a clear and open admission that he had been a member at one time and not that he NEVER belonged.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:59 pm

Sarahnn wrote:Here's what I read in post 20 by Xpunge, Roody.

The fact that he left the Democratic party is a clear and open admission that he had been a member at one time and not that he NEVER belonged.

This is what he said in post #20 in this thread Sarahnn. Exact quote in it's entirety that has been proven false by his own previous remark.

Xpunge wrote:I never claimed I am registered democract. I am registered decline to declare after leaving the California democrat party.

we've been through this already you and I, are you drunk? or just have a short memory problem?

and the other one in the Obama sweetheart thread.

Xpunge wrote:I have been a registered Democrat my entire adult life.

End of personal info dissemination.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:05 pm

Sarahnn wrote:Here's what I read in post 20 by Xpunge, Roody.

The fact that he left the Democratic party is a clear and open admission that he had been a member at one time and not that he NEVER belonged.

Sarahnn, here is the crux of it all. roody stated that... "There is no way at all you are a registered democrat." (post 17 this thread).

He already knew this to be true from the thread on 1-20-2010. I had changed to decline to state.

This whole thing is about roodys attempt to label and paint people who he doesn't like, views or style.

Just like good ol' downhill. same m.o.

Sarahnn · Post by **Sarahnn** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:51 pm

Xpunge wrote:Sarahnn, here is the crux of it all. roody stated that... "There is no way at all you are a registered democrat." (post 17 this thread).

He already knew this to be true from the thread on 1-20-2010. I had changed to decline to state.

This whole thing is about roodys attempt to label and paint people who he doesn't like, views or style.

Just like good ol' downhill. same m.o.

I know this much. A discussion is so dependent upon paying close attention to what is being said. Subtle truths can be missed by all of us with distractions. Roody, or I should believe anything you say unless we have a viable source to the contrary. You said you left the Dems, that indicates to me that you have been a Dem. You may have put your emphasis where it was needed to sound credible in any given post but there's a basic truth there and only you have it. Roody and I must accept it unless we can prove you are lying.

Frankly, if I am to believe your assertions, the onus is on you to clarify your position with the Democratic party. I accept whatever you say because Speedguide members' party affiliations is not a main concern of anyone here. It's the actual issue of the discussion that is the subject matter.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:02 pm

The first few years I was here as my post history will show I was a republican. In 2004 I changed to the dem party. Unfortunately for me Florida is a closed primary state so I remain affiliated with the dems although I am more of an independent.

The difference between Xpunge and I is I never once claimed to be a member of a party while attempting to pass myself off as something else.

That should answer your question Sarahnn.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:24 pm

Sarahnn wrote:I know this much. A discussion is so dependent upon paying close attention to what is being said. Subtle truths can be missed by all of us with distractions. Roody, or I should believe anything you say unless we have a viable source to the contrary. You said you left the Dems, that indicates to me that you have been a Dem. You may have put your emphasis where it was needed to sound credible in any given post but there's a basic truth there and only you have it. Roody and I must accept it unless we can prove you are lying.

Frankly, if I am to believe your assertions, the onus is on you to clarify your position with the Democratic party. I accept whatever you say because Speedguide members' party affiliations is not a main concern of anyone here. It's the actual issue of the discussion that is the subject matter.

The funny thing is I have practically never spoken about my own party affiliation, other than to quip how I had left the democrat party.

rood-hill has pestered and been generally fixated on who I am, and party affiliations excetera.
note the thread from the 20th of Jan,

http://forums.speedguide.net/showpost.p ... stcount=22

Roody wrote:.... I don't know your political history prior to coming here, but I am curious to hear whether it's just a specific disdain for the President and Pelosi or in your mind are all Dems evil?

I am who I am and down-rood wont change that. I turned my back on the democrat party because they became uber-neo-stupid liberal.

now he's got a hard about that. it's funny.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:29 pm

Sarahnn wrote:

Oh, and btw, down-rood-hill is the one to bring in "your a republican harump!, harump!, haaaRUMP!

" to this thread just like he does most other times.

pot-kettle there roody-hilldown

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:23 pm

opcorn:

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:49 pm

I think Xpunge just has problems with Mods, especially ones he/she (?) perceives as a Democrat.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:01 am

jeremyboycool wrote:I think Xpunge just has problems with Mods, especially ones he/she (?) perceives as a Democrat.

Keep on a thinken, you'll get it eventually.

He came after me...

Of course that seems to be his m.o. watching him get into it with several board members in the past.

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:06 am

Xpunge wrote:Keep on a thinken, you'll get it eventually.

He came after me...

Of course that seems to be his m.o. watching him get into it with several board members in the past.

"in the past"

Says the 2007 to the 2001.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:24 am

jeremyboycool wrote:"in the past"

Says the 2007 to the 2001.

Weren't you off the board for several years because you were in prison? hmmm.

never the less, yes, since 2007 I have picked up on his M.O. didn't take a decade to figure it out.

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:40 am

Xpunge wrote:Weren't you off the board for several years because you were in prison? hmmm.

never the less, yes, since 2007 I have picked up on his M.O. didn't take a decade to figure it out.

"Weren't you off the board for several years because you were in prison? "

I have never been in prison.

Xpunge · Post by **Xpunge** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:46 am

jeremyboycool wrote:"Weren't you off the board for several years because you were in prison? "

I have never been in prison.

But you've "been".

doesnt matter anyways.

Sarahnn · Post by **Sarahnn** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:01 am

jeremyboycool wrote:I think Xpunge just has problems with Mods, especially ones he/she (?) perceives as a Democrat.

I remember downhill kept accusing me of listening to right-wing talking heads because I sounded just like them. But I told him then I did not and I still don't. We conservatives must sound all alike.

Downhill was a staple here.

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:03 am

Xpunge wrote:But you've "been".

doesnt matter anyways.

What?

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:08 am

Sarahnn wrote:I remember downhill kept accusing me of listening to right-wing talking heads because I sounded just like them. But I told him then I did not and I still don't. We conservatives must sound all alike. Downhill was a staple here.

"We conservatives must sound all alike."

But I did not said anything about conservatives. Sorry, but I don't understand what you are trying to get at.

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:43 am

All I want to know is if xpunge is a democrat or not. I am a registered member of the GOP.

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:48 am

Sarahnn wrote:I remember downhill kept accusing me of listening to right-wing talking heads because I sounded just like them. But I told him then I did not and I still don't. We conservatives must sound all alike. Downhill was a staple here.

The properly applied term is echo-chamber.

Sarahnn · Post by **Sarahnn** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:20 am

JawZ wrote:The properly applied term is echo-chamber.

I don't think we need the term "chamber" tacked on.

The cry of the conservatives reminds me of the shot heard around the world. When people feel threatened, expect a response.

Sarahnn · Post by **Sarahnn** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:28 am

JawZ wrote:All I want to know is if xpunge is a democrat or not. I am a registered member of the GOP.

Here's what I get from reading this plethora of comments.

1. Xpunge was a Democrat all his life.

2. Until he recently registered as "decline to state" status which means he is not committed to support any party at this point.

3. Therefore, whether he supports the Democrat or Republican platform or any other party platform will be determined by how he approaches the issues, and not party affiliation.

Frankly, if the Repubs don't pull their act together, "declines and independents" will become a very strong political force. It's happening now.

Sarahnn · Post by **Sarahnn** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:31 am

jeremyboycool wrote:"We conservatives must sound all alike."

But I did not said anything about conservatives. Sorry, but I don't understand what you are trying to get at.

I'm saying that Downhill was not the first to feel certain that I sounded like the conservative talking heads on the radio/T.V. My views just reflect their ideology, so I made a tongue-in-cheek comment that we conservatives must all sound alike.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:36 am

Sarahnn wrote:Frankly, if the Repubs don't pull their act together, "declines and independents" will become a very strong political force. It's happening now.

As they should, since most people dont fit into 2 groups with all their views and opinions, would be nice to see a party system that is more flexible.

Maybe in 50 years. lol