Boy oh boy....nVidia just getting blow after blow

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 9:35 am

MSI looks like they will be making some ATI products....starting with some OEM products in the Euro market.

http://www.anandtech.com/#18402

I've been reading about the possiblity of "no more exclusive vid card chipset makers"...seems MSI is making the move.

To me, that's good anyways. That's the way video cards were years ago...brands would make models on various vid chipsets. Just like motherboards...I mean, you see Asus make Intel, nVidia, Via, and...ugh...SiS. Same with other brands of mobo makers. So the question remains "Why not with vid cards?"

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 12:09 pm

As much as i hate to say, Nvidia could be in some trouble. The fu*k up they made with the FX is turning alot of people to go with ATI. Now all i see is companys starting to team up with ATI. Even the almighty Intel is working with ATI. Hell i even ordered a 9700. (shame)

I gave Nvidia a chance and was waiting for the FX, And all the ATI boys were spanking my ass. But if you can't beat'em, Join'em. LOL

Immortal · Post by **Immortal** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 12:43 pm

go canada! go ATi!

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 12:48 pm

Originally posted by Immortal
go canada! go ATi!

Shhhhhh!!!
Don't let them in on our little secret

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 12:48 pm

great for ati, but we need competition in the market, so hopefully they will not go belly up.

Immortal · Post by **Immortal** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 12:59 pm

Originally posted by Amro
great for ati, but we need competition in the market, so hopefully they will not go belly up.

nvidia is too big to go down... he's just resting then bam!

deleted_acct · Post by **deleted_acct** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 2:33 pm

GO ATI!!!

SLK · Post by **SLK** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 4:03 pm

Yeppers, knew that. What a surprise!!!

Hehe, nvidia will compete with SIS and ATI will own. Boy that would be the day

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 6:56 pm

Originally posted by SLK
Hehe, nvidia will compete with SIS and ATI will own.

Hopefully nVidia won't go thaaaaat low....

They're down on the mat.....will struggle to stand up by this summer...I bet things it will be a more even match around next winter...but it will be more like nVidia and Intel with their CPU's....each taking a brief lead....gone are the days of total domination though.

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 7:02 pm

yes, lets hope NVidia will release a product to at least compete with ATI

if not
there wont be any real competition which will suck..

Docsta · Post by **Docsta** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 7:03 pm

you all just wait...no one believes me...I betcha ATI will eventually buy out Nvidia....

no one believes me now....but you just wait..itll happen. I guarantee ya.

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 7:04 pm

Originally posted by Docsta
you all just wait...no one believes me...I betcha ATI will eventually buy out Nvidia....

no one believes me now....but you just wait..itll happen. I guarantee ya.

the FTC (I think) will let that happen?

I think not

Docsta · Post by **Docsta** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 7:06 pm

Originally posted by BaLa
the FTC (I think) will let that happen?

I think not

heh...keep talking...like i said...just wait.

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 7:06 pm

Originally posted by BaLa
the FTC (I think) will let that happen?

I think not

ATI being a Canadian company, would the FTC even have immediate jurisdiction over such a merger/buyout?

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 7:12 pm

no idea..
I know nothing about this...
lol..
the FTC hast their nose in everything..(not that that's a bad thing)
remember Daimler Chrsysler merger..

Daimler/Mercedes Benz is a german company..

Faust · Post by **Faust** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 7:36 pm

there's many ways for one company to acquire control of another, regardless of where the company(s) are based. japanese corporations have purchased many foreign businesses.

this reminds me of Intel's big mistakes a couple/few years ago. cruddy mainboard chipsets (i820 and i840) and the PIII 1.13 flop really allowed AMD to capitalize and gain a good deal of market mindshare. end result?....... better competition, rather than a lack therof. Intel stumbled for a bit, but got their act together. i see the same happening with nVidia/ATI. unless nVidia really REALLY blows it again... and again and again and again.

and as far as ATI buying out nVidia? well, i suppose anything's possible. but the reality is that ATI is miniscule in terms of size/net worth compared to nVidia. ATI alone doesn;t have the resources by itself for such an aquisition (at this point). they have a ways to go before that is even an option. a canadian corporation like Seagram's on the other hand, could make this entirely possible. ATI just couldn;t do it alone...... at least not for a few years.

loop2kil · Post by **loop2kil** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 12:18 am

Well, remember a little while ago when ATI was hardly even on the map..Nvidia was the only card in town then in the gf1 and gf2 days, if you were a gamer. Nvidia will come back with something in time...its just ATI's time now.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 7:07 am

Originally posted by loop2kil
Well, remember a little while ago when ATI was hardly even on the map..Nvidia was the only card in town then in the gf1 and gf2 days, if you were a gamer. Nvidia will come back with something in time...its just ATI's time now.

ATI was always on the map....quite strongly too...maybe not in the gaming community....but if you go way way back....they have always been huge in the OEM market. Meaning, basic video cards....Mach64 was popular back when Windows 95 was being hatched. All through the Win95/98/2K and even currently....just about all of the big name servers (how many Dell and Compaq servers do you think are out there?) have ATI video cards built onto their motherboard, most corporate grade laptops have ATI video, and although a joke for gamers, just about all corporate grade desktops had either Matrox G100/200, or ATI Rage Pro video.

nVidia has only recently gotten into the OEM market, and has only recently gotten into, and begun dominating, the higher end graphics workstation graphics market.

If ATI gobbles anybody up...I'll put my money on Matrox.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 8:42 am

yeah i do hope nvidia comes back real strong for two reasons:

1) without any competition, prices will go up, and technology does not advance as fast

2) I always preferred nvidia cards and their drivers over ATI

cyberskye · Post by **cyberskye** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 12:34 pm

ATI trades on the nasdaq (as well as canadain markets) so it is bound by SEC regulation.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 3:02 pm

Originally posted by YeOldeStonecat

If ATI gobbles anybody up...I'll put my money on Matrox.

put me down for SiS if they choose to buy anyone out.