Nightclub Fire

cybotron r_9 · Post by **cybotron r_9** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:01 pm

wow.... wehn i went to work this morning the death toll was at 39 now it's at 75

The death toll rose as firefighters searched through the charred shell of the single-story wood building. Town Manager Wolfgang Bauer said the number of dead had reached 75 by midday Friday and "I don't think we're done yet."

Docsta · Post by **Docsta** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:07 pm

jezz....what a disaster eh?

ScottE · Post by **ScottE** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:13 pm

There was a video crew taping the concert in there too. The whole thing was ridiculous. They had these fireworks that were like those fountains. The ones that spray flaming stuff all over. It doesn't take a genious to figure out that nothing good can come from having flaming stuff shooting out in a confined space, idiots. Sad that those people had to die like this.

hoss · Post by **hoss** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:18 pm

and from what I heard, the video crew was there to do a follow up to the Chicago club incident a few weeks ago. sort of ironic.

I also never knew there were that many fans of Great White?

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:20 pm

How sad. Pointless and sad.

and of course whoever is at fault is lying like a sonofabitch to get out of the blame:

The pyrotechnics were used without permission from the club, said Kathleen Hagerty, a lawyer representing club owners Michael and Jeffrey Derderian.

"No permission was ever requested by the band or its agents to use pyrotechnics at The Station, and no permission was ever given," she said.

The band's singer, Jack Russell, said the manager checked with the club before the show and the use of pyrotechnics was approved. And Paul Woolnough, president of Great White's management company, said tour manager Dan Biechele "always checks" with club officials before pyrotechnics are used.

"I'm not going to reply to those allegations, but I do know that the club would have been informed, as they always are," Woolnough said. Biechele could not immediately be located for comment.

The owner of a well-known New Jersey nightclub said Great White failed to tell him they were using pyrotechnics for a concert there a week ago.

"Our stage manager didn't even know it until it was done," said Domenic Santana, owner of the Stone Pony in Asbury Park. "My sound man freaked out because of the heat and everything, and they jeopardized the health and the safety of our patrons."

Docsta · Post by **Docsta** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:29 pm

just heard on fox news the death toll is up to 85 now

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:32 pm

sounds like great white is to blame if they pulled this on the stone pony...

Docsta · Post by **Docsta** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:48 pm

yea them and their stupid pyrotechnics

LT-73 · Post by **LT-73** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:51 pm

Oh crap! Reminds me of the HappyLand disaster in New York

Rear doors were chained locked and the front entrance was blocked by the fire. Over 80 people lost their lives. Such a tragedy.

torsten · Post by **torsten** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 3:17 pm

Anyone heard from morbidpete?
He supposedly lives in W. Warwick, the town where it happened.

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Fri Feb 21, 2003 8:10 pm

Very sad. The recorded video was horrific.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 8:16 pm

Originally posted by hoss
I also never knew there were that many fans of Great White?

I like em. Their guitarist was missing. Did they find him yet?

Originally posted by Joint Chiefs Of Staff
Very sad. The recorded video was horrific.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 8:18 pm

Originally posted by CableDude
I like em. Their guitarist was missing. Did they find him yet?

CNN is reporting he is dead.

I just saw an interview on cnn with one of the managers from stone pony, and he was saying how great white really did not care at all, even though once they started the pyrotechnics and said it is no big deal.

Sounds to me like Great white is going to be having some major lawsuits coming.

Jamie_R · Post by **Jamie_R** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:40 pm

Let's not rush to judgement ...

from abc.com:

The Rhode Island show was part of a nationwide tour. Officials at other clubs said Great White asked before using pyrotechnics and complied when they were turned down. One of those venues was the Oxygen Nightclub in Evansville, Ind., where the band played Feb. 3. The club has ceilings 20 feet tall "but we still did not want to take the chance," club owner JJ Parson said. "We said we'd prefer they not, and they went along. Everything we asked them to do, they'd do."

I think there is going to be plenty enough blame on this one to go around ......

A Terrible Tragedy .... All Our Prayers Should Be With The Families Of The Survivors And Deceased .....

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 10:06 pm

I know the people from stone pony...I highly doubt they have any reason to lie...

not saying the other club isnt right but something is up with those pyrotechnics where I bet they forgot to ask club owners, and then just said lets go ahead and do it anyway

man they are up to 95 dead

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sat Feb 22, 2003 1:26 am

Originally posted by davy19

man they are up to 95 dead

Just chatting with the Mrs. and she filled me in.

Sad, real sad.

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 1:40 am

That place was a tinderbox.

I wish I was there...standing by a fire extinguisher.

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sat Feb 22, 2003 1:41 am

Originally posted by UOD
That place was a tinderbox.

I wish I was there...standing by a fire extinguisher.

yep, The club literally went up in 10-15 seconds.

Have you saw the video yet?

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 1:46 am

Originally posted by Joint Chiefs Of Staff
yep, The club literally went up in 10-15 seconds.

Have you saw the video yet?

Yup...it makes me sick.

The fire was sooo small at first...and everybody just stood there.

People died right at the front door.

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sat Feb 22, 2003 1:47 am

Originally posted by UOD
Yup...it makes me sick.

The fire was sooo small at first...and everybody just stood there.

People died right at the front door.

One guy kept waving his hand or something like that. Weird

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 4:18 pm

Originally posted by torsten
Anyone heard from morbidpete?
He supposedly lives in W. Warwick, the town where it happened.

hey thanks a lot..im fine..but i drove by going to work as some of the people were leave in..scary stuff..i didnt know it was gunna b as bad as it was..there still cleaning it up now..quoeset is still jammed cause everybody wants to see..ne who's...i didnt know ne body there personaly...but my g/f who i live with now lost her cousen who left behind a wife and 3 kids..his name was Carlos L. Pimentel, SR. i meet him once..cool guy..ne who's..ttyl

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Thu Mar 06, 2003 11:10 pm

Originally posted by morbidpete
hey thanks a lot..im fine..but i drove by going to work as some of the people were leave in..scary stuff..i didnt know it was gunna b as bad as it was..there still cleaning it up now..quoeset is still jammed cause everybody wants to see..ne who's...i didnt know ne body there personaly...but my g/f who i live with now lost her cousen who left behind a wife and 3 kids..his name was Carlos L. Pimentel, SR. i meet him once..cool guy..ne who's..ttyl

Sorry to hear about your g/f's cousin. Glad you are ok.