Need serious help.

DaMIR · Post by **DaMIR** » Fri Feb 14, 2003 1:58 pm

TCP options string = 020405a00103030301010402

MTU = 1480
MTU is optimized for Windows XP PPoE DSL broadband. If not, consider raising MTU to 1500 for optimal throughput.

MSS = 1440
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1440, which equals MSS.
MSS is optimized for Windows XP PPPoE DSL broadband. If not, consider raising MTU to 1500 for maximum throughput.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 513920
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 3 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 64240
For optimum performance, consider changing RWIN to a multiple of MSS.
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
506880 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
253440 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
126720 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
63360 (MSS x 44)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 20556.8 kbps (2569.6 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 8222.72 kbps (1027.84 KBytes/s) @ 500ms

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 51 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON

IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000

Windows XP Pro 100MHZ P3 on SpeedStream 5360 Modem.
Earthlink ADSL
Advertised Speed: 1500/128

Problem is that I'm gettting 900Kbits in the speed test from DSLREPORTS and downloading at about 60-80Kbits.

I hear things about CABLENUT, what is it and why do I need it. Sorry for the stupid questions but I'm a newB to DSL.

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Fri Feb 14, 2003 3:41 pm

First thing first that mtu is off http://dslnuts.com/pppoe/mtustuck.htm do this then

ok ur rwin is way off it's two high donwload cablenut install it then the addon look for the folder it created on desktop apply chnages and reboot

DaMIR · Post by **DaMIR** » Fri Feb 14, 2003 6:35 pm

TCP options string = 020405a001010402

MTU = 1480
MTU is optimized for Windows XP PPoE DSL broadband. If not, consider raising MTU to 1500 for optimal throughput.

MSS = 1440
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1440, which equals MSS.
MSS is optimized for Windows XP PPPoE DSL broadband. If not, consider raising MTU to 1500 for maximum throughput.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 63360
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 0 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 63360
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
506880 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
253440 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
126720 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 2534.4 kbps (316.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 1013.76 kbps (126.72 KBytes/s) @ 500ms

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 51 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON

IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000

These are the enw results. Now it's even slower. My webpages take more tome to load. I did all of those things you said.

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Fri Feb 14, 2003 8:23 pm

I'd love to help you but I know next to nothing about DSL.

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 12:39 am

try turning dsl modem on and off leave off for about 2 mins

take a couple of speed test post the average make sure nic is full duplex modem in the addon goto the folder it created on desktop select win2k/xp dsl look for a file called 1.5/128 open it up an reboot

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 12:42 am

ur rwin was fine all along but let me know average speed

DaMIR · Post by **DaMIR** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 1:39 pm

Alright, I turned the modem of like you said, turned it back on, rebooted after I did the Addon for 1500/128 on cablenut, and took 3 tests with these results.

Your raw speed was 684552.49 bits per second which is the same as:

Your raw speed was 756665.65 bits per second which is the same as:

Your raw speed was 737523.81 bits per second which is the same as:

Last night I tested in the 900kbits/s range consecutively. WHat I have also noticed is that my pages take a long time to load now.

Thanks for all you help McCoffee, I appreciate it, I hope we can fix this thing.

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 2:05 pm

just to verify a couple things are using zone alarm and or behind a router/firewall?

Try this it's extreme but i have a hutch this might work goto my computer control panel network options remove everything in there reboot

http://dslnuts.com/pppoe/mtustuck.htm install this follow the instructions carefully

you might have to renitall tcpip and also client for microshaft networks to check goto network options under control panel
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if u had to reinstall or didn't reinstall take the tcpip optimzer again see what we got

also one more thing take a couple of speed test one more time
if ur speeds are still slow, one more step take a traceroute at http://www.pcpitstop.com it under internet connections take the trace router if any color shows up other then green or yellow
or a lot of yellow call ur isp and start yelling.

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 2:12 pm

yeah i know it's the same steps over but drastic times calls for drastic messaures I just want to make sure it's nothing on ur end or theres

DaMIR · Post by **DaMIR** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 3:36 pm

Here's what I've found out. When I install the RASPPPOE, I have to create the Dial Up connection so I can get on the net. When this happends, my MTU is 1492 over IE. But when I want to use my Earthlink Browser, I have to go through a seperate connection, and that changes my MTU to 1480. I Traced the Line on the Earthlink connection and received a HUGE RED bar on my first ping. And when I ran the Tarce Test on the RASPPPOE IE connection I get all SOLID GREEN bars.

I ran these 3 speed test on the RASPPPOE IE connection:

Your raw speed was 860743.31 bits per second which is the same as:

Your raw speed was 730997.05 bits per second which is the same as:

Your raw speed was 598425.5 bits per second which is the same as:

So there are my results. I have no idea what to do.

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 3:55 pm

HUGE RED bar on my first ping that is not good wow i say stick wiht ras ppoe for get about earth link browser that software is doing something to the connection call isp time i think see what they say w/b and keep me posted tell them u got a bad route

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 3:56 pm

also ask them if there is a way to use the rasppoe with ur earthlink browser that is just odd

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 4:03 pm

You are on PPPoE and MTU should be 1480

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 4:06 pm

also I"m getting second opinon on this by the main guy

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 4:07 pm

lobo wich is it i know this topic got debated cablenut says 1492

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 4:07 pm

http://dslnuts.com/pppoe/mtustuck.htm right here

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 4:11 pm

I don't believe changing your MTU is going to speed you up, but you can try

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 4:17 pm

what's odd is his routes are better with the 1492??

dannjr · Post by **dannjr** » Sun Feb 16, 2003 5:29 am

Earthlink Browser what a dog.
I had Earthlink till they couldn’t afford IP address’s and dropped in a couple of black hole routers in there mix to try and hide the proxy that they put everyone on through Covad.

Get rid of the Earthlink add on software its not needed. RASPPPoE and Enternet 300 work just fine and you wont be in any violation with Earthlink. Its just stuff to put on your machine to gum stuff up and make it easier for them to track you.

Stick with IE or Mozzilla anything but the Earthlink browser. Its also been known to cause errors on a system and may have to be reinstalled just to uninstall it.
The work around for there stuff is keep a list of there info in Favorites in IE
Keep this phone number 1-888-847-4708 its more direct to tech. However your gonna find out that tech support has changed unless you just started with the company they laid off all there tech support for a out side service.
Everything you can do in the software can be done here http://start.earthlink.net/

1480 or 1492 isnt your issue you have Latency from the start. All the info and the program change was for the best, and more than likely by the time you read this they might have fixed the issue.
The easiest way to watch for that is to open a command line and do a tracert to a couple of places.
2K – XP
Start > Run > cmd > click ok
At the prompt type
C:\>tracert speedguide.net > then the enter key
If you want to make a copy of this to a Text file then type
C:\>tracert speedguide.net >C:\tracert1.txt
That will produce a new text file at C:\root where you can open it and copy and paste it to a email or here.
A good trace looks something like this

Ameritech

C:\>tracert speedguide.net

Tracing route to speedguide.net [63.217.30.70]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms adsl-68-74-72-254.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net [68.74.72.254]
2 20 ms 20 ms 21 ms dist1-vlan50.emhril.ameritech.net [68.22.72.66]
3 20 ms 20 ms 10 ms bb2-g14-0.emhril.ameritech.net [68.22.72.244]
4 20 ms 20 ms 21 ms bb1-p6-3.chcgil.ameritech.net [68.72.176.5]
5 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms aads.cais.com [206.220.243.16]
6 40 ms 41 ms 30 ms ge1-1.colo1.ash.pccwbtn.net [63.216.0.57]
7 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms 63-217-30-70.sdsl.cais.net [63.217.30.70]

Trace complete.

C:\>

or this from UUnet

C:\>tracert speedguide.net

Tracing route to speedguide.net [63.217.30.70]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms node-423a16xx.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net

2 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 209.212.174.237
3 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 207.251.180.230
4 20 ms 40 ms 30 ms 50.ATM4-0.VR1.CHI6.ALTER.NET [137.39.207.57]
5 30 ms 20 ms 20 ms 325.at-5-0-0.HR1.CHI2.ALTER.NET [152.63.70.158]
6 20 ms 20 ms 30 ms 0.so-6-3-0.XL1.CHI2.ALTER.NET [152.63.73.34]
7 20 ms 20 ms 30 ms POS6-0.BR2.CHI2.ALTER.NET [152.63.67.241]
8 30 ms 20 ms 30 ms a3-0.4.core2.chi.cais.net [63.216.9.66]
9 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms ge1-2.colo1.ash.pccwbtn.net [63.216.0.61]
10 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms 63-217-30-70.sdsl.cais.net [63.217.30.70]

Trace complete.

C:\>

I have two DSL connections here if you needed to know

Now to deal with Earthlink and Latency. There really isnt allot you can do other than to let them know your slow and that your ping to the second hop is above 500ms and they will test back to you esp. if you have there software loaded.
Enternet 300 is all you need for them to look. It has a log and part of the program even tell you how good or bad your connection is in the advanced section.

Im Assuming your connection might or may have looked something like this.
tracert towar.org [195.94.207.34]

1 110 ms 141 ms 820 ms 10.132.64.1
2 270 ms 28 ms 410 ms 10.128.3.2
3 * * 14 ms 213.46.178.13
4 55 ms 28 ms 55 ms 213.46.160.205
5 60 ms 62 ms 86 ms 62.67.38.145

Generally on almost all DSL connections your on the web after the 2nd or 3rd hop after that its not Earthlinks problem. Earthlinks specs only call a serious Latency issue when its above 500ms remember that. OR time outs like shown on the third hop in the example.

When everything gets cleared up on your latency if it hasn’t already you'll be much better with RASPPPoE or the Enternet software by itself. A router would be even better but then that’s off topic

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:03 pm

in the meantime download the ad aware in read 1st so u could get ridd of spyware also run a defrag so when the connection is up and running u would be even faster.

DaMIR · Post by **DaMIR** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 12:19 am

Sorry I haven't responded in a while guys. I had a few exams and my Chem final was a bit unexpected. Anyway, I got some adware and removed 163 Infected Folders/Files/Registry FIles/...etc.

I have never Defraged my HD's but I guess it's something I'll have to do soon. Tomorrow is best I guess. I also see constant 900kbits/s Speed Test now over RasPPPoE but still don't get more than 80 in a serious 100MB (For Example) DL. My trace results look good so I have no idea what this could be. I'm gonna cal Earthlink as soon as I have some time.

Another thing I am worrying about is weather or not my Memory could improve my speed. I have WAY to MANY programs running on the system Disk as is. So how can I close some of those and which ones can I close? I'll be upgrading my memory to 384 soon too. Thanks for everybody's help again.

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 1:46 am

yeah it might help to get those things out of startup more ram could help depnends on who u ask but ur on the right track though

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 9:06 am

More RAM is always better, anyone who says it's not is like the UN

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 9:36 am

More RAM or defragging yoiur harddrive will not increase your connection speed.

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