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wireless router with ics and dial up

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Hi. I have a linksys wireless access point router (befw11s4 ver2)with 4 port switch. Cable no longer available, so I want to network my computers to share access via a dial-up. The dial up computer is 98se, hardwired to the router (ethernet). Another 98 is hardwired to the router (ethernet). Have laptop XP Pro connected wirelessly. I installed ics on the 98se computer with the modem, it connects fine. I can't get the other computer to get an IP address from ics. Can it go through the router to get it? I disabled DCHP on the router. When I set up the ip addresses statically, I could see the other computers and access them fine, but could not get out on the internet on the client computer. Do I have to manually set dns, wins, and some of the other stuff too? I put the default gateway as the ics computer on the ethernet card of the client. Still no luck. Haven't even tried with the wireless one yet. Thanks.

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Post by JackMDS »

The Router can not be used as a Router under these circumstances as a Router or DHCP solution.

The only “sane” solution is to get a regular Router that supports Dialup, and External Dialup Modem

Then use the Linksys as a Switch Access Point.
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There is a page in the configuration setup that lets me disable DHCP, so it won't conflict with ICS. Also on the Dynamic Routing page, it lets you select to act like a router or gateway. What's the difference?

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I would try to set it to Gateway.

On another note. I come across people have the idea that since Cable/DSL Routers cost the same as a good Access Point they would buy it and get for the money an extra switch. Most of them have a very hard time to configure it to work as an Access point only, there are problems in obtaining IP through the Wireless while the Router's DHCP is off, and the IP is generated else were.

In your case it is even more cumbersome since you have to use ICS (which is quirky even under normal situation).
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Thanks. I'll give it a try. I did have the router with a cable modem, but it is unavailable now. Don't feel like buying something else.

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Well, I have it mostly figured out. From the client, I can see the other computer and access files. From the client, I try to connect to the internet, and it makes the host dial and connect to the internet. I can ping the host, and I can ping an internet address by the numbers, not name. DNS problem? However, when I put in the actual ip address in my browser, for the one on the internet that I can ping, it doesn't go there. What would cause a problem where I can ping an address, but my browser won't connect. My browser worked through the previous cable modem. Thanks.

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Disable DHCP on the router, simply use the "switch" part of the router as a plain old 4 port switch/wireless access point....to do your normal ICS stuff.
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Hi. I did do that. I thought that the ICS would assign the ip address for the client. It did, giving the 192.168.0.2 to the client. Do I need to manually put in a dns address? And a host name and address on the client? Do I manually assign an IP address on the host, or will ICS do that also? Thanks.

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Originally posted by phil22407
Hi. I did do that. I thought that the ICS would assign the ip address for the client. It did, giving the 192.168.0.2 to the client. Do I need to manually put in a dns address? And a host name and address on the client? Do I manually assign an IP address on the host, or will ICS do that also? Thanks.

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98 ICS steps

http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/icsw98se.htm
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Yeah according to Theory it should work.

However pending on the Wireless Cable/DSL Router implementation by the manufactures, disabling the Routers capacities does not yield pure Switch with an Access point.

The Access Points that are incorporated into the Entry Level Routers are not equivalent to the independent Access points, and it seems that obtaining the IP for the Wireless Card from another source rather then the parent Router is a lot of time a no can do.

In top of it, even normal Wireless Configurations do not work stable with ICS.
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The site above goes into detail on setting your clients with static IP's....so DHCP can be out of the picture. I've usually setup ICS clients that way...just basically point eveything to the host.
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May sound like a silly question, but are you running FROM the 98se/ICS box to the WAN port on the router, or to one of the switched ports? Haven't tried what you are trying (shudder) but it might make a difference.
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Post by YeOldeStonecat »

Originally posted by Old Fart
May sound like a silly question, but are you running FROM the 98se/ICS box to the WAN port on the router, or to one of the switched ports? Haven't tried what you are trying (shudder) but it might make a difference.


Technically that would work....dunno why you'd do it that way (I'll shudder too), but technically it would work.
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The ics computer is pluged into a switched port, not the wan port. Well, it seems really close now. The client makes the host connect, I can ping sites by name or address, and even when I use the browser, it says web site found, waiting for reply. But that is where it stops. When I do winipcfg, on the adapter on the client, the box that says IP routing enabled is not checked. On the host on the ics adapter, it is. Is this the problem? If I cry uncle on this, what do you recommend the best setup for doing what I am trying to do, which is basically use my laptop wirelessly. Thanks.

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