Low self opinion -- low self esteme -- getting them back!

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sat Dec 07, 2002 11:55 pm

Is there a way to actualy strengthen ones low self opinion and self esteme.?

Or overcome those emotions?

Seems to me the best way to strengthen them would be to build confidence, which in itself is an entirely different objective.

Would shrinks be effective in this area?

How would one go about repairing a damaged low self opinion/esteme etc...

TIA

Immortal · Post by **Immortal** » Sat Dec 07, 2002 11:57 pm

Talk... the only way I find I could gain confidence is talk to close friends.. then they encourage me and we go do things toegehter... to build up me self esteem.. or confidence in that particular area..

another thing is that.. try and do something u normally wouldn't do... something u don't think u'd be able to do.. keep challenging yerself

lil challenges add up and u will build confidence... I used to have no self esteem... now at least I can stand on my own two feet..

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:10 am

Lets just say some pompous ass told ya you misspelled esteem in a thread title.....

You lookem in the eye and tell em to go jump off a bridge.

Also, keep in mind that the "ideal" is not often achieved. How many women do ya see running around with Barbie-esque dimensions? Not too many, thats for sure.

See many dudes running around that have perfect hair and teeth and legs and nose....etc? You don't unless they are on that infernal boob tube. Making comparisons to PRODUCED ideals will only net you misery.

What *I* think needs to aimed for is pleasing yourself, and those you love. Above all, be true to yourself, its much easier that way.

drdoug99 · Post by **drdoug99** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:15 am

I used of/still do have a low self esteem. Specially in school, I used to get picked on alot, and me being shy and all, i'm no ladies man, lol, which doesn't help.

I think if you have confidence, you automatically gain more self-esteem/self opinion.

But then confidence is a varying thing. Like how all of us at SG have confidence with computers in how they work....I have no confidence whatsoever when it comes to ladies, therefore, when I am faced with a challenging thing like talking to a girl, lol, I feel bad since I don't know what to say, and then I have less self esteem.

but then during a scenario of who can beer bong the most beers, I have confidence in that, which improves my self esteem

(W00t, i'm the bomb! 8 beers in a row!) j/k

the way I rationalize it, is I feel good about myself no matter what. Like, i'm my own person, I choose to do the things I do. So if I choose todo good things, then I have no other reason other then to feel good about myself as a person, which means I have high self esteem/opinion.

And if you are feeling bad about yourself, you have to ask yourself why are you feeling this way?
hopefully you have the answer.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:25 am

Originally posted by Immortal
Talk... the only way I find I could gain confidence is talk to close friends.. then they encourage me and we go do things toegehter... to build up me self esteem.. or confidence in that particular area..

another thing is that.. try and do something u normally wouldn't do... something u don't think u'd be able to do.. keep challenging yerself

lil challenges add up and u will build confidence... I used to have no self esteem... now at least I can stand on my own two feet..

as of late, my talking is what has been getting me in trouble... I seem to have lost a "regulator" of some sort that allows me to be tactful in my approach to a situation.

All my friends, outside of SG, are pretty much co-workers and they are the gang banging type of peeps so they really have nothing constructive to say... which bothers me and always reminds of of that saying... "it's hard to soar with Eagles when your flying with turkeys" (or something like that) which I tend to look at as a dampening effect on my brilliant presence ..lol

As far as taking on challenges.. I rarely have any free time. I may be on SG but my purpose here at home is to be attentive to the kids... little boogers...

so I can surf and tend to their needs...

I want to challenge myself and I was thinking about taking some Ju-Jitsu classes.. I know that will help some.

Thanks for talking wit me ya... I love you ..lol

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:27 am

Soaring with eagles may be fine and all, but show me just one weasel thats been sucked into a jet engine.

stu2 · Post by **stu2** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:32 am

Do your best.
Complete what you try a bit at a time.
If you fail start again great men do thats what makes them great.
And remember heroes often fail.
Stu2

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:34 am

Originally posted by brembo
Lets just say some pompous ass told ya you misspelled esteem in a thread title.....

You lookem in the eye and tell em to go jump off a bridge.

Also, keep in mind that the "ideal" is not often achieved. How many women do ya see running around with Barbie-esque dimensions? Not too many, thats for sure.

See many dudes running around that have perfect hair and teeth and legs and nose....etc? You don't unless they are on that infernal boob tube. Making comparisons to PRODUCED ideals will only net you misery.

What *I* think needs to aimed for is pleasing yourself, and those you love. Above all, be true to yourself, its much easier that way.

Yah I really don't compair myself to others... I know if I want the perfect body etc I need to do ALOT of work.. so I have come to an understanding with myself on that feild...

I have just recently been able to accept me for me... that's the hardest part I beleive. Ya see, I clowded my head with crap for so long that being f-ed up was normal now all of a sudden what was normal is lost and I have to adapt to a new way of life... this may seem odd to alot of people but this is relevent to my situation regardless.

I have been getting moods of invinsibility, almost Wicked or Evil, nothing can get in my way or stop me... ya know? I feel "me" changing and it's all new to me... weird, very hard to explain.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:46 am

Originally posted by drdoug99
I used of/still do have a low self esteem. Specially in school, I used to get picked on alot, and me being shy and all, i'm no ladies man, lol, which doesn't help.

I think if you have confidence, you automatically gain more self-esteem/self opinion.

But then confidence is a varying thing. Like how all of us at SG have confidence with computers in how they work....I have no confidence whatsoever when it comes to ladies, therefore, when I am faced with a challenging thing like talking to a girl, lol, I feel bad since I don't know what to say, and then I have less self esteem.

but then during a scenario of who can beer bong the most beers, I have confidence in that, which improves my self esteem (W00t, i'm the bomb! 8 beers in a row!) j/k

the way I rationalize it, is I feel good about myself no matter what. Like, i'm my own person, I choose to do the things I do. So if I choose todo good things, then I have no other reason other then to feel good about myself as a person, which means I have high self esteem/opinion.

And if you are feeling bad about yourself, you have to ask yourself why are you feeling this way?
hopefully you have the answer.

That's some good advice bro... I couldn't agree more.

My problem is I tend to question everything that I do... almost as if I fear judment by others.... but then I always say " I don't give a f** what they think" blah blah... It's a constant battle of ups and downs....

I can almost pin point the exact time when I started having problems in this area.. I was at a PCP party and after smoking the sherm stick I litteraly felt instatly stupid.... I knew I should have slept in late that day...lol

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:48 am

There is no "one person is better than another" That is only true based on circumstance. A genius for survival in the Kalahari is an idiot at Cambridge. You may very well have become a fish out of water. Do not allow that to encroach on your sense of self worth. Do not measure yourself by someone else's yardstick. Be you.... and take Viagra...

shant,
david

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 1:04 am

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUC*******************

Brembo... I just spilled my guts, sent the message and got this..

This user's mailbox is currently full, and cannot be sent any messages until it is cleaned out. An email has been sent notifying the user of this. Please try your request at a later time..

pressed the back button and my entire message was gone..... man I took a long time to type that!......lol

clear PM please

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 1:07 am

Doh!

I thought I had em clear....but noooo, the sent items were packed. Sorry man.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 1:27 am

Originally posted by brembo
Doh!

I thought I had em clear....but noooo, the sent items were packed. Sorry man.

It's all good brother from another mutha!...

Got to wrap some presents, I'll pm ya later if possible..

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 1:32 am

Originally posted by Deus ex Machina
There is no "one person is better than another" That is only true based on circumstance.

Like the special olympics right?

Sporting events etc?

A genius for survival in the Kalahari is an idiot at Cambridge.

basicaly what environment you lived around dictates or helps form "you/me"?

You may very well have become a fish out of water. Do not allow that to encroach on your sense of self worth. Do not measure yourself by someone else's yardstick. Be you.... and take Viagra...

Great advice... When the grass is greener on the other sides it's time to water my own.. I understand

Thanks ..

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 1:37 am

Originally posted by EvilAngel
I want to challenge myself and I was thinking about taking some Ju-Jitsu classes.. I know that will help some.

Funny you should mention martial arts. As I started reading this thread that was going to be my recommendation.

Karate and Kung-Fu worked wonders for my confidence, and my self esteem.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 1:53 am

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Like the special olympics right? Sporting events etc?

Does the end result of a competition improve a person or is it effort to enhance onesself before the event.
That aside, it is not fair to assess on but a few parameters. I know a few guys in the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronisms). They are those Rennaisance geeks who wear armor and bash each other insensate with rattan weapons. These men are big, however they also need two non-combative skills to maintain membership. I remember this one gent. He was 6'4" and weighed 250#. A scary fighter, who also made some of the most delicate and beautiful lace. Judge him based on these skills and you would have a paradoxic blend. How do you think he would fare in your work place? Hint, do not pick on his lace.

basicaly what environment you lived around dictates or helps form "you/me"?

However your environment is not solely your job. You are a function of several environments, and you may find the personal result leaves you uncomfortable in some of them.

Great advice... When the grass is greener on the other sides it's time to water my own.. I understand

Or appreciate the beauty of a brown lawn. If it bothers you fix it. If you choose not, then it was not important enough for you to take action. So do not feel bad about it.

shant,
david

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 1:55 am

Originally posted by Norm
Funny you should mention martial arts. As I started reading this thread that was going to be my recommendation.

Karate and Kung-Fu worked wonders for my confidence, and my self esteem.

Really? What Kung Fu forms did you study?

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 2:00 am

Originally posted by Deus ex Machina

Or appreciate the beauty of a brown lawn. If it bothers you fix it. If you choose not, then it was not important enough for you to take action. So do not feel bad about it.

Yeah, now thats how to be. I had a horrid lawn, cuz I didn't really care. Until my neighbors started bitchin and moaning. I do care about them being upset, so I hired a guy to keep it up...problem solved.

I did some doughnuts in the front yard with my car the other day, and Lawnboy(its what he goes by...lol) sure got mad at me.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 2:04 am

Originally posted by brembo
Yeah, now thats how to be. I had a horrid lawn, cuz I didn't really care. Until my neighbors started bitchin and moaning. I do care about them being upset, so I hired a guy to keep it up...problem solved.

I did some doughnuts in the front yard with my car the other day, and Lawnboy(its what he goes by...lol) sure got mad at me.

Did you drink paint?

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 2:07 am

Sniffed some, but the bouquet of paint upsets my delicate sense of taste.

Debbie · Post by **Debbie** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 3:41 am

I've been involved with self-development for a very long time. Our self-esteem is created at an early age.

In my family, if you did not think like they did, you were knocked down for it. I was angry. It took me a long time to get over the pain and disappointment for not being accepted for the person that I am. As a result, I grew up with low self-esteem because I wanted to be accepted.

After taking a hard look at the root of my problem, over time, I realized that I was ok and that in life, you cannot be accepted by everyone. It is just human nature. I was able to forgive and let go.

I feel good about myself today and as for the family, well, they are still the same but I love them for it. All I needed was to acknowledge myself, know that I was living my life in a way that was right for me, and not be consumed with "the little girl that wanted them to accept me".

I truly feel that we are brought into this world in certain environments to learn and evolve on a deeper level.

RoundEye · Post by **RoundEye** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 4:15 am

Originally posted by brembo

See many dudes running around that have perfect.......legs........etc?

Do you drink paint?

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 8:34 am

If you were to measure your self-worth by the respect you have here, you wouldn't be posting. I do know that sometimes the actions or inactions of those you love and respect can have a huge impact on how you view yourself. But that's their problem and not yours.

Also keep in mind that various things like medication has a huge impact on your situation, too.

Time, my friend. You've overcome more than most people face in a lifetime.

TonyT · Post by **TonyT** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 8:43 am

Is there a way to actualy strengthen ones low self opinion and self esteme.?

First off, self esteem is not an emotion, it is more the effect of one's own attitude toward life and one's own assessment of one's production, whatever the production may be, e.g. work, hobbies, family, etc etc.

One can have a low self esteem as a result of:
1. having one's production and viewpoints invalidated by others. (the ctitical boss, family member, supposed friend)
2. having made less of others by invalidating them.
3. seeing others invalidated and not doing anything about it.
4. self-invalidation. (usually a culmination of the above and an effort to justify it's continuance)

Production is the basis of ALL morale. One usually will not have thoughts about low self esteem unless one has not been working as hard lately or has been producing little of worth or value. (not necessarily economicially)

There are roughly 8 or so distinct areas of Life that we operate in and on, and our efforts to survive and prosper affect some or all of them:
1. self
2, family
3. groups (work, nation etc)
4. mankind
5. living things (plants & animals)
6. physical world (non living things)
7. spiritual things (ideas, thought, soul if believe in it)
8. god or the idea that the spirit lives on)

All of our actions can be said to target these differet areas of life. Sometimes we neglect some of these areas and produce little in or for them. Esteem drops.

For instance, it is rare that I overtly think about how my daily actions are affecting mankind, but all that is really required is that I do not do things to harm mankind. (criminal actions) Others actively spend their days in an effort to greatly help mankind. (some politicians, businessmen, charities, etc)

Yet my self esteem is not low because I do less for mankind than I do for the physical world. (I do construction work, basically I destroy existing stuiff and create new stuff) The reason being that no one area of life is more important than another and importance is solely based upon the individual's own considerations about life.

I have yet to rake the leaves in my back yard. Now they are covered with 4" of snow. I have not nor will I lose sleep over that! It justr means that come spring, if I wish the lawn to survive, that I do something about it. (that's one of the reasons I have kids!)

EA -
Set some new goals for yourself and set out to achieve them. Happiness will result from the overcoming of the obstacles in the way of reaching those goals.

In the past, you overcame obstacles with a gun, or drugs, or a fist, or else had too few goals. Life is different now and requires that you live it in a different manner than you did when on the streets. You have overcome much in the last few years and self esteem should be up as a result. Take an honest look at what you have acomplished in the last 5 years and then compare that to the previous 20 yrs! Esteem any different now?

mikemean · Post by **mikemean** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 11:43 am

I'm kinda in the same boat as you EA. I am considering going to see a pyschiatrist. I am having trouble with analyzing everything and double checking things. And the obsessive compulsions (urges to do things)I have been getting. It's driving me crazy. Maybe we can go see a shrink together

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sun Dec 08, 2002 11:52 am

Originally posted by mikemean
I'm kinda in the same boat as you EA. I am considering going to see a psychiatrist. I am having trouble with analyzing everything and double checking things. And the obsessive compulsions (urges to do things)I have been getting. It's driving me crazy. Maybe we can go see a shrink together

Shrinks are good to a point. It's when you upset 1 or 4 by turning the tables on them and they throw clipboards in your general direction.

Just a word of advise that's all.

TonyT · Post by **TonyT** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:49 pm

One more key key pouint I forgot to stress;

A real cause of low self esteem is also the failure to be acknowledged for the production (work or in Life) that one has already accomplished.

All too often we forget to really tell another how much we appreciate to good that have done and are doing, much less validate a worker or an employee for his jobs well done.

So, EA, just in case you feel a bit uacknowledged:

A VERY VERY WELL DONE FOR YOUR LIFE ACHIEVEMENTS TO DATE!

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:50 pm

Originally posted by TonyT
One more key key pouint I forgot to stress;

A real cause of low self esteem is also the failure to be acknowledged for the production (work or in Life) that one has already accomplished.

All too often we forget to really tell another how much we appreciate to good that have done and are doing, much less validate a worker or an employee for his jobs well done.

So, EA, just in case you feel a bit uacknowledged:

A VERY VERY WELL DONE FOR YOUR LIFE ACHIEVEMENTS TO DATE!

I'd like to second that.....

Debbie · Post by **Debbie** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 1:15 pm

Originally posted by TonyT
One more key key pouint I forgot to stress;

A real cause of low self esteem is also the failure to be acknowledged for the production (work or in Life) that one has already accomplished.

All too often we forget to really tell another how much we appreciate to good that have done and are doing, much less validate a worker or an employee for his jobs well done.

So, EA, just in case you feel a bit uacknowledged:

A VERY VERY WELL DONE FOR YOUR LIFE ACHIEVEMENTS TO DATE!

APPLAUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'LL DITTO THAT!!!!!!!!!!!

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 1:54 pm

Originally posted by TonyT
All too often we forget to really tell another how much we appreciate to good that have done and are doing, much less validate a worker or an employee for his jobs well done.

I always tell my employees "hey, good job" or "keep up the good work". Too bad I'm not told the same by my boss.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 3:35 pm

Originally posted by TonyT
One more key key pouint I forgot to stress;

A real cause of low self esteem is also the failure to be acknowledged for the production (work or in Life) that one has already accomplished.

All too often we forget to really tell another how much we appreciate to good that have done and are doing, much less validate a worker or an employee for his jobs well done.

So, EA, just in case you feel a bit uacknowledged:

A VERY VERY WELL DONE FOR YOUR LIFE ACHIEVEMENTS TO DATE!

Absolutely!! Well said.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 7:09 pm

Totaly impressive post, very informative, thought provoking.

I guess I DO have issues with being invalidated. Most likely the # 1 cause of this feeling at this time in my life. I have alot on my plate and have been feeling , feelings of doubt and depression and anxiety.

Originally posted by TonyT
First off, self esteem is not an emotion, it is more the effect of one's own attitude toward life and one's own assessment of one's production, whatever the production may be, e.g. work, hobbies, family, etc etc.

One can have a low self esteem as a result of:
1. having one's production and viewpoints invalidated by others. (the ctitical boss, family member, supposed friend)
2. having made less of others by invalidating them.
3. seeing others invalidated and not doing anything about it.
4. self-invalidation. (usually a culmination of the above and an effort to justify it's continuance)

Production is the basis of ALL morale. One usually will not have thoughts about low self esteem unless one has not been working as hard lately or has been producing little of worth or value. (not necessarily economicially)

There are roughly 8 or so distinct areas of Life that we operate in and on, and our efforts to survive and prosper affect some or all of them:
1. self
2, family
3. groups (work, nation etc)
4. mankind
5. living things (plants & animals)
6. physical world (non living things)
7. spiritual things (ideas, thought, soul if believe in it)
8. god or the idea that the spirit lives on)

All of our actions can be said to target these differet areas of life. Sometimes we neglect some of these areas and produce little in or for them. Esteem drops.

For instance, it is rare that I overtly think about how my daily actions are affecting mankind, but all that is really required is that I do not do things to harm mankind. (criminal actions) Others actively spend their days in an effort to greatly help mankind. (some politicians, businessmen, charities, etc)

Yet my self esteem is not low because I do less for mankind than I do for the physical world. (I do construction work, basically I destroy existing stuiff and create new stuff) The reason being that no one area of life is more important than another and importance is solely based upon the individual's own considerations about life.

I have yet to rake the leaves in my back yard. Now they are covered with 4" of snow. I have not nor will I lose sleep over that! It justr means that come spring, if I wish the lawn to survive, that I do something about it. (that's one of the reasons I have kids!)

EA -
Set some new goals for yourself and set out to achieve them. Happiness will result from the overcoming of the obstacles in the way of reaching those goals.

In the past, you overcame obstacles with a gun, or drugs, or a fist, or else had too few goals. Life is different now and requires that you live it in a different manner than you did when on the streets. You have overcome much in the last few years and self esteem should be up as a result. Take an honest look at what you have acomplished in the last 5 years and then compare that to the previous 20 yrs! Esteem any different now?.

I have been setting goals but some of the time I lack the motavation.. I lose sight. I can make excuses as to why all day long but the excuses will only be that still. Maybe better time managment on my part and a more realistic approach to what's in hand.

Yes, the past 5 years I have been through some serious instances and and overcome some very tramatic situations and emotions... I am very proud of myself for that... 100%

Yes I do feel better! Thanks you for your time to help me out on this... I tried to wait and see if I could search within and find a more meaningful responce to your post but as time went by I lost sight of what I was trying to convey.. damn short term memory.

Deus ex Machina ,brembo ,downhill ,TonyT ,TIGRESS-73,Norm,mikemean ,RoundEye,stu2 ,CableDude,Joint Chiefs Of Staff ,drdoug99,Immortal ,I appreciate all the opinions, suggestions and help from you all... I do feel better and I feel that I am armed with some knowlege that can be used in my favor....

Thanks again.

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 8:56 pm

To paraphrase Eleanor Roosevelt, "No one can make you feel bad unless you allow it".

david

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sun May 02, 2004 6:10 pm

Well, jui-jitsu helped some for a while but I still end up fighting some serious issues. I think the meds I was on (up untill Oct 2003) messed with my head even more. I tend to find myself disconnected with society and very hard to concentrate or stay focused. I say weird ass stuff all the time and as of late I have been getting mood swings with fits of anger all over again. I guess I have a difficult time accepting me for me. Life blows at times.

Jstyr · Post by **Jstyr** » Sun May 02, 2004 6:39 pm

I noticed in your post you said many of your friends (or was it co-workers) were gang-banger types. My advice would be to get away from them. Those people will try and pull you down to their level. Also if they see you happy or successful they will unconsciously feel bad about themselves and may try to sabotage your happiness. You need friends that will encourgae you to A)succeed, B) be happy, and C) be yourself.

One of the greatest things my dad ever told me (and this is when I was running around with shady folks and getting in trouble) is that....People who have nothing, and aspire to have nothing, will fight over words. Once you've acquired something important to you in life you'll realize how meaningless a few words are. Make sure you fight for what is important.

Perhaps some of your friends and co-workers are the type my dad described above. Don't let their mindset become your mindset. Don't be sabotaged by their narrowmindedness.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sun May 02, 2004 6:55 pm

Jstyr wrote:I noticed in your post you said many of your friends (or was it co-workers) were gang-banger types. My advice would be to get away from them. Those people will try and pull you down to their level. Also if they see you happy or successful they will unconsciously feel bad about themselves and may try to sabotage your happiness. You need friends that will encourgae you to A)succeed, B) be happy, and C) be yourself.

One of the greatest things my dad ever told me (and this is when I was running around with shady folks and getting in trouble) is that....People who have nothing, and aspire to have nothing, will fight over words. Once you've acquired something important to you in life you'll realize how meaningless a few words are. Make sure you fight for what is important.

Perhaps some of your friends and co-workers are the type my dad described above. Don't let their mindset become your mindset. Don't be sabotaged by their narrowmindedness.

Thanks for that! Thats is some awesome advice.
As a matter of fact, Thursday I almost beat the crap out of two of them for sabotaging one of my luxurys at work. I was told that if my radio was turned up past a certain level that I would lose my radio privlages. Well, of the guys went into my work room and BLASTED the radioi after being told that it was not allowed. Well I took that as a direct lack of respect and I confronted him within seconds of him doing that. Well I guess I did stoop to his level and I about beat the living **** out of him.
I learned from that though. I could have lost my job due to my antics and only I was to blame for that.

Again thanks for your advice.

The_Lurker · Post by **The_Lurker** » Sun May 02, 2004 7:13 pm

Jstyr wrote: One of the greatest things my dad ever told me (and this is when I was running around with shady folks and getting in trouble) is that....People who have nothing, and aspire to have nothing, will fight over words. Once you've acquired something important to you in life you'll realize how meaningless a few words are. Make sure you fight for what is important.

this is good advice, and true too!

Needlefreak · Post by **Needlefreak** » Sun May 02, 2004 7:48 pm

EvilAngel wrote:Is there a way to actualy strengthen ones low self opinion and self esteme.?

Or overcome those emotions?

Seems to me the best way to strengthen them would be to build confidence, which in itself is an entirely different objective.

Would shrinks be effective in this area?

How would one go about repairing a damaged low self opinion/esteme etc...

TIA

I wish I had a quarter of the determination you have...

You've given life to a awsome lil creature...

You've touched the bottom,seen what it looks and feels like and you came back up a better person..

You smell alot better and no longer walk with a limp...

I wanna grow up to be just like you...................but with more hair..

More body piercings never hurt.

AceFireball · Post by **AceFireball** » Sun May 02, 2004 8:10 pm

Great Thread!

I have only been here in the SG community for mabey a year but I know that you guys are awesome and always here to help each other out.

EA ur an awesome guy and i know alot of times it seems like your own mind is out to get you but youve got to take control, ?mabey im not makin sense?, learn the things that make YOU happy, if its something practical (leagal, okay with family, somewhat safe) then do it and enjoy it (no i dont mean strippers when ur married) because that will put in a good frame of mind and in better control of what goes on up there. I notice you said u dont have much time so it doesnt have to be time consuming, it can be music, magazine, sports, movies, calling a good friend...whatever it may be. Sorry if its irrelevant but i guess i tried