Time for War

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 10:58 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/11/ ... index.html

Cmon Bush, lets do it already...

Iraq is still playing the same game, lets not wait anymore.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 11:01 pm

Originally posted by davy19
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/11/ ... index.html

Cmon Bush, lets do it already...

Iraq is still playing the same game, lets not wait anymore.

Are you signing up? Which branch are you going too? Just curious.

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Fri Nov 15, 2002 11:09 pm

Snow scheduled for tomorrow.

Docsta · Post by **Docsta** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 11:12 pm

Originally posted by davy19
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/11/ ... index.html

Cmon Bush, lets do it already...

Iraq is still playing the same game, lets not wait anymore.

im with ya bro...lets kick some iraqi azzzz...

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 11:24 pm

However, military officials said, it is ultimately up to the United Nations to decide if the action was a "material breach." .

Waiting on the UN....

I hate the thought of War but then again I hate the thought of HAVING to PRAY to ALAH (or similar).

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 11:29 pm

I've been asking this question to my sister...

At what point does one admit the failure of dipolecy? How many times must Iraq fire on COlition forces before one takes action?

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 11:35 pm

Originally posted by downhill
Are you signing up? Which branch are you going too? Just curious.

I would love to, but I am not in any physical shape with all my medcal problems, and would be no use in the military, trust me they are better without me.

Onethenumber2 · Post by **Onethenumber2** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 11:37 pm

They would get you in shape quick, then put you behind a desk somewhere.

zooner · Post by **zooner** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 6:42 am

can someone explain to me again why we destoryed afganistan?

oh yeah. something about a pipeline or oil...

oh, one more question. Remember that girl who testified to the UN and enraged the american publick against the iraq's before the gulf war? I wonder how that princess/liar is doing these days?

we could certainly use another like her.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 11:06 am

Originally posted by zooner
can someone explain to me again why we destoryed afganistan?

oh yeah. something about a pipeline or oil...

oh, one more question. Remember that girl who testified to the UN and enraged the american publick against the iraq's before the gulf war? I wonder how that princess/liar is doing these days?

we could certainly use another like her.

Don't get me wrong here , but your saying that we went to war in Afganistan because a princess had a big ass mouth? and that our being there was about oil at the time? Um can you remember 9-11?

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 11:15 am

Originally posted by zooner
can someone explain to me again why we destoryed afganistan?

oh yeah. something about a pipeline or oil...

oh, one more question. Remember that girl who testified to the UN and enraged the american publick against the iraq's before the gulf war? I wonder how that princess/liar is doing these days?

we could certainly use another like her.

Quite the contrary zooner. We liberated Afghanistan from an oppressive regime. We simply destroyed the Taliban.

What that woman testifed to is inconsequential to the actions of Saddam Hussein. He invaded another country.

What would you have us do?

Immortal · Post by **Immortal** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 11:55 am

I would go to war in a jiffy.. I would hate everysecond of it.. that is why I want to die there and not remember a thing... yes.. that's the way to go.. with honour..

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 2:57 pm

Does anyone have an answer to my question?

How long can you be diplomatic and get slapped in the face every time you try something new before you slap back?

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 3:24 pm

time for a late lunch.

cisco, not very long!

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 3:27 pm

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
time for a late lunch.

cisco, not very long!

Iraq, INHO has been slapping the UN in the face since the end of the GulfWar...is it not time we slap back?

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 3:36 pm

Originally posted by CiscoKid
Iraq, INHO has been slapping the UN in the face since the end of the GulfWar...is it not time we slap back?

Instead of being the stern disiplinarian and standing up for ourselves (USA) we have resorted to child psychology, first a constructive warning, then another warning, then warn there will be no more warnings, then warn them that this is the last warning before theree is another warning... just like a child Iraq continues to push the buttons. Unless there is some sort of action taken Iraq will continue to push it's limits and eventualy feel as if they are in charge ( which is more than likely the case at this point)

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sat Nov 16, 2002 9:50 pm

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Instead of being the stern disciplinarian and standing up for ourselves (USA) we have resorted to child psychology, first a constructive warning, then another warning, then warn there will be no more warnings, then warn them that this is the last warning before theree is another warning... just like a child Iraq continues to push the buttons. Unless there is some sort of action taken Iraq will continue to push it's limits and eventually feel as if they are in charge ( which is more than likely the case at this point)

How many time-outs have we've given Iraq? I think they need to be grounded now.

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 9:58 pm

Originally posted by Joint Chiefs Of Staff
How many time-outs have we've given Iraq? I think they need to be grounded now.

A time out and a hard spanking!

ColdFusion · Post by **ColdFusion** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 10:57 pm

arg ... its simple, if we dont get him first, hes gonna get us! Geeeeez thats his ultimate goal isnt it ? to destroy the usa ?

UnitedWeStand · Post by **UnitedWeStand** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 11:08 pm

All I want to hear in two years is.. Once upon a time there was a country called Iraq where people wear towels on there heads, fornicate with sheep, and shoot innocent people.. and one day just 2years ago it all disappeared in one big boom.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 12:27 am

Since when did we kill 1.5 million children in Iraq?

Read the latest threat from Al-queda:

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/11/ ... index.html

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 12:55 am

Originally posted by davy19
Since when did we kill 1.5 million children in Iraq?

Read the latest threat from Al-queda:

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/11/ ... index.html

It's a bunch of propaganda crap...they're trying to justify their actions to the rest of the world by shifting the attention away from their actions to something that sounds even more horrific (even if it's not true)...

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 1:28 am

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Waiting on the UN....

I hate the thought of War but then again I hate the thought of HAVING to PRAY to ALAH (or similar).

oh you mean God?

u've a right to ur faith but Allah is just the arabic word for God.

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 1:29 am

Originally posted by davy19
Since when did we kill 1.5 million children in Iraq?

Read the latest threat from Al-queda:

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/11/ ... index.html

a bunch die each day from starvation...the trade halts... al qaeda are a bunch of jackasses..

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 1:30 am

Originally posted by ColdFusion
arg ... its simple, if we dont get him first, hes gonna get us! Geeeeez thats his ultimate goal isnt it ? to destroy the usa ?

no, his ultimate goal is to destroy israel, get more power and cash. us is in his way

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 1:33 am

Originally posted by Amro
a bunch die each day from starvation...the trade halts... al qaeda are a bunch of jackasses..

Yep, those people die because the food that is sent over thru humanitarian channels is funneled to the people in the government...I wouldn't be surprised if none of what was sent over in the form of food actually made it down to the people who needed it most...Hussein brought the embargo on his people, then turns around and starves them even more by intercepting the humanitarian food sent over....

Joe2640 · Post by **Joe2640** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 2:13 am

oh you mean God? u've a right to ur faith but Allah is just the arabic word for God.

Even though the word Allah may translate to god in English, Christians, for example, pray to a different God than do Muslims... so he would be correct in making that distinction

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 2:42 am

Originally posted by Joe2640
Even though the word Allah may translate to god in English, Christians, for example, pray to a different God than do Muslims... so he would be correct in making that distinction

Different? The first 5 books of the old testament are the same as the Muslims use.

Christians, Muslims and those of the Jewish faith all have roots in the same G_D........

Joe2640 · Post by **Joe2640** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 3:20 am

Christians, Muslims and those of the Jewish faith all have roots in the same G_D........

While I can see that the first 5 books of the Bible are used by the Muslims, the core of the Christian faith lies in the Trinity, 1 God in three persons. The muslims worship a god completely different from that. No arguments from me, just pointing out that because the worshippers use some of the same books doesn't mean they worship the same God

zooner · Post by **zooner** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 3:25 am

sorry joe... you're wrong.

they believe in jesus too, but not as the son of God. Heck, the roots of both religons are brothers and can be traced back to abraham.

Yes, they have differant methods of worship... but it's scary that they worship the same God and that both supposed teach peace and love.

downhill - 1
joe - 0

Joe2640 · Post by **Joe2640** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 3:31 am

sorry joe... you're wrong.

Whew, well now that I know that I won't bother to go any further

they believe in jesus too, but not as the son of God.

Jesus is one of those three persons that make up the Christian God. If the muslims do not include him as the son of God, how can both gods be the same?

No hard feelings, and I hope we can continue to keep this discussion civil

zooner · Post by **zooner** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 6:15 am

(sorry if I was a little blunt there joe... 330am does that sometimes!)

anyways, I believe we were both right. Yes, the christian God is made up of the holy trinity... God, his son Jesus and the holy ghost. The three make up the one and they are all equal.

However, since God is part of the trinity as well as the whole, God as one of the three is a singular enitity.

Thus, (Christian God)=(God - Christian God)*(Jesus - Christian's God's Son)*(Holy Ghost)

We can also enstate that Allah is merely a translation in reference within a language of that same God, however much he is worshipped differantly.

However, even though in theory they are the same 'God'; I believe it would be a gross mis-interupation to place such a summarization on these religons.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 10:38 am

oops I did not mean to turn this into a relgiious thread, I think we have enough of those..lol

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 2:29 pm

Originally posted by davy19
oops I did not mean to turn this into a relgiious thread, I think we have enough of those..lol

The Iraq conflict should NOT be made into a religiouse war...because it's not.

My dad keeps asking me "Why after all this time is Bush suddenly talking war with Iraq?" He's starting to say it's 100% about oil. I do not think that to be entirely true. The oil may be part of it, but not a primary part. These slaps on the wrist the UN has has given Iraq are too numerouse, I beleive it is not time for a spanking and an anal probe rather than a time out...

He also asks why we don't go after North Korea for their nuclear programs. The reason being is that North Korea has not posed a major threat to the international world as Iraq has, at least not in recent years that I am aware of...

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 2:51 pm

Originally posted by Amro
oh you mean God? u've a right to ur faith but Allah is just the arabic word for God.

Yes I understand that

I was basicaly saying I do not want to be forced to do anything.. used Alah as an example.. it would be like someone telling me Jesus will now be called "Apple" get my point?

Krazy Kraut · Post by **Krazy Kraut** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 2:57 pm

ok let the aitheist KK fix this thread

allah=god=yahweh

allah is what the muslims call it
god is what the christains call it
yahweh is what the jews call it

oh and jesus is not part of god
he is the son of god

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 3:10 pm

Originally posted by Krazy Kraut
ok let the aitheist KK fix this thread

allah=god=yahweh

allah is what the muslims call it
god is what the christains call it
yahweh is what the jews call it

oh and jesus is not part of god
he is the son of god

Who said Jesus was G-d?

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 3:11 pm

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Who said Jesus was G-d?

Joe did it...!

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sun Nov 17, 2002 3:22 pm

All this talk of war is just too damn depressing.

Know what I think is going to happen?

Saddam will just comply with the UN Resolutions and we all will have a Happy and Merry Holiday season.

However, I know this is a vicious circle with Iraq and I fear "War" is the only conclusion to resolve this dilemma.

*god bless are troops*

zooner · Post by **zooner** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 3:28 pm

Originally posted by Joint Chiefs Of Staff

*god bless are troops*

the intention is so pure, i'll just leave that one alone...

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