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Hi All,

Since this is the general discussion boards i wanted to take an advantage to share my joy with you all :) Just traded in my weak v6 2000 Mustang for my brand new (80 miles on the odometer and i put 70 of them on there) 2002 Stang GT. First thing I am gonna do is get some body work on it to make it unique, then I wanna add some mods exhaust/air intake/anything else? Any car junkies out there know what I can do to give my mustang more rumble(flowmaster mufflers?). Better yet anyone know some good mods I can do to my new stang without voiding the warranty? Any thoughts please let me know.

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great car.. u have to put some pics up
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Awesome! Read warranty well before doing too many mods. That car's pretty hot right out the box.
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Mustangs respond well to gears! If it's an auto, get a converter also, if you're a standard, you won't need a converter since you don't have one ;)

Check http://www.corral.net and some other mustang boards. They will have all the info you need on mods. Oh, and congrats on the new car I'm sure it's a hell of an upgrade from that V6 you had.
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Thanks for all the replies. First thing I am definately doing is getting some flowmaster mufflers, I'm keeping the mustang exhaust pipes (they aren't too bad not to big not too small). I heard a better cold air intake wouldn't be a bad idea either. then of course there is the modified chip, but when i think of that a voice comes in my head and says good bye 60kMile/72 Month premium extended warranty :) . The 17" wheels are sweet and so are the rims, Won't be touching them. The car is black as black can be (damn it's gonna be tough keeping it clean), luckily i have a friend that does detail work, I just gotta decide what color i want my mustang on the back filled in with and the stripes...white or red. Tough Decision but I'm leaning more towards the red, white seems to be a bit too in your face on black cars IMO. Honestly though I did not think the mustangs rumble would sound as good as it does right from teh factory I just need it to be a lil louder > :) .
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Let's keep this thread going, I want to see the transformation of this Mustang. :)

Regarding the warranty, the dealer cannot void the warranty unless the modification done to the car was responsible for the situation resulting in a warranty claim.

Headers, gears, exhaust, intakes, no problem. Be careful with the "chip" (GM's are programmable, no chips to replace), since a poorly programmed chip can cause problems, or even destroy your engine. This is the case with GM's, especially when guys get the tuning tools on their laptops and start changing parameters. Bad Things can happen. That said, if you get yours from a reputable source I doubt anything will happen and the performance gain could be substantial, depending on the stock programming.

I'm not a Ford guy, but Ford and Lincoln-Mercury are picking up where GM left off, so I tip my hat to them. I expect good things from GM in the future but until then it may be that Ford will rule the roost in the affordable performace market.

Congratulations on your good choice of car, you're gonna love that Mustang. :)
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Unfortunaetly I'm at work right now, but I'm outta here at 11:00 and soon as i get home the cover is going off, the antenna getting screwed in, the key in teh ignition and time for me to ride around without any destination :) I would like to post some pics so we could see the transformation of my stang. Right now it looks like every other black GT premium stang but hopefully when I am done this baby will sound awesome and look just as good(with a few more ponies under the hood). BTW my friend is a trans am fan all the way, he has a 96' mint transam special edition he pushing about 380-400hp. I took him for a ride and he really is changing his mind about the later model mustangs now. He said he actually might buy one now, to me that really says something from a guy who just before the ride hated mustangs and all fords at that hehe.
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I suggest you do the cosmetic stuff now and hold off on performance enhancements for a while. It's been my experience that a new car will suddenly start running a lot better at about 15,000 miles. Everything seems to come together then.
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We all are in the car game for one thing - speed and power and handling. No room to hate, we all have the same goal.

It's just that some people act like they play the game but is just a front, found out soon after you race them. :rolleyes: I won't mention the type I'm talking about, we all know.
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Congrats on the Pony. Hope you enjoy. Watch out from SS's at dem red lights. :D
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Coupe or convertable? :)


I personally don't like the convertable but the coupe looks pretty hot :D
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*cough cough rice car flow master fat tail pipes cough cough* :)
I totally agree with no room to hate with all high performance cars, I've always told my bud that I thought his trans am was awesome. Anyhow I was just over at another mustang forum and a guy told me that since I have rear window defrost I wouldn't be able to get my back window tinted? I don't believe but maybe I am wrong any know if there is any truth to that, maybe the back defrost messes the tint up?
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Coupe all the way, convertible was about 3k more and overal the convertaible is heavier than the coupe not much but a little. For me it all depends on what color top you get with the convertible some of them don't look right and some look very nice.
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Originally posted by poptom
I suggest you do the cosmetic stuff now and hold off on performance enhancements for a while. It's been my experience that a new car will suddenly start running a lot better at about 15,000 miles. Everything seems to come together then.


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I swear to God if you put a body kit on that stang I will never talk to you again :D :nod:

leave the body as is...but maybe skip the whole new cold air intake kit and go for making the hood a functional ram air.

if you dont want to spend that kinda money then I can tell you how to make ram air for under 20 dollars.

however I might say that putting 18x8.5-9 rims int he back wouldnt be too bad of an idea. :D

other than that...if you want it to have a meaner growl from the exaust you could go with straight pipes (not positive if the GT already has straight pipes)

BTW black on white isnt too strong...its awesome (to me atleast)

nice car...just dont go feedin it rice...

nothing wrong with imports though (I love em) but it just seems to be more people want to run their cars on rice rather than making them competable in a race....

EDIT: BTW that 99' WRX in my avatar is NOT riced out...the thing has astage 3 turbo along with a long list of other mods putting it in the 11 second club...no ricing for me
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Originally posted by XSeaNX
EDIT: BTW that 99' WRX in my avatar is NOT riced out...the thing has astage 3 turbo along with a long list of other mods putting it in the 11 second club...no ricing for me


LOL, I was gonna ask! :D

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Hey....might wanna look @ the brakes and suspension as yer first upgrades. If ya tweak the engine, yer obvisiouly gonna faster, why not have a more solid base beneath ya? Get some cross-drilled rotors, some rather sticky pads, possibly braided steel brake lines(assuming they are rubber anywhere in the lines). Those Stangs have some balls under the hood to begin with, I'd spend my cashola on the handling aspects first. Maybe some tuned shocks(struts? what the heck does a Mustang have anyways?), some stiffer springs, bigger stabilizers(which in fact will hurt terminal grip, but improve 95% manuvers). Look into some honestly sticky tires(Toyo Proxes, Bridgestone S-03's, Dunlop SP8000's, Pirelli PZero/700z's). Learn to push it hard handling wise before ya cut loose the ponies eh?
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I like your idea brembo, first thing I am going to do is wait a bit before i go making many perfromance mods. I am planning on adding a K&N filter probably before the week is out. I AM DEFINATELY NOT RICING my stang up :) To tell you the truth I have eaten many "riced" up cars for lunch with my old stock v6 mustang lol. The plan for my car seems to be getting clearer now....1:K&N filter (no brainer) 2:Customize the body(by that I tinted windows, maybe a stripe from teh front end over teh scoop, and some other things I can think of or someone can suggest) 3:Like brembo suggested, upgrade suspension system for better handling 4:Who knows here, maybe a blower, workable ram air (did somebody say I could build one for under $50 could you please elaborate on that :) ), I really want this car to kick some ass when it is finished.
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New gears without a doubt, but that will probably be dependant on your daily driving. Atleast 3.73s. A lot of people have 4.10s. Don't fear the gear ;) If you want nice sound for your exhaust Flowmaster is it, but it is not the best brand performance wise. A lot of people toss out all/a lot of the exhaust right away, but you said you don't want to do that. You may want to get a new shifter as well, many replace the stock shifter with a Steeda Tri-Ax. Anyway, throw that K&N on. Stiffen that suspension up. Invest in some Nitto Drag Radials. I am not sure if you plan on going to the dragway, but if you have slicks or DRs they generally want you to have a driveshaft loop I believe. Kind of depends on who is teching and if they really care. We have some DRs, but they look so much like stock they never ask ;) We put the DRs on when we drive out to the Dragway, other than that it is the regular street tires. Not sure how the headers are on the newer models, but I would think you will be alright, atleast for now. Just go read the forums such as Corral.net, AllFordMustangs.com, and Stangnet.com I am not a whole lot of help from '96 on, it is just information I have picked up along the way, forums, talking to racers, etc.
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I would go 4.10's, hell, I have 4.11's in my beast.
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Anyone who buys a Mustang GT for performance is making a big mistake.

You realize that you could have spent only a few thousand more dollars and bought a 2003 SVT Cobra ($32K). You would end up with 130 more HP, a better sound system, and you really wouldn't need all of these upgrades people are suggesting to increase your performance above a standard GT's ability level.
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Originally posted by black crowes
Anyone who buys a Mustang GT for performance is making a big mistake.

You realize that you could have spent only a few thousand more dollars and bought a 2003 SVT Cobra ($32K). You would end up with 130 more HP, a better sound system, and you really wouldn't need all of these upgrades people are suggesting to increase your performance above a standard GT's ability level.


I'm sure if he could have afforded such a car he would have gotten it, given his penchant for Mustangs.

It's all about money. Sometimes it's easier to do things over time, like mod your ride, as opposed to getting in over your head on a car payment. Besides, improving your car is more fun than just buying one already done, IMO.
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Originally posted by ghost
I'm sure if he could have afforded such a car he would have gotten it, given his penchant for Mustangs.

It's all about money. Sometimes it's easier to do things over time, like mod your ride, as opposed to getting in over your head on a car payment. Besides, improving your car is more fun than just buying one already done, IMO.


exactly!!

hence why i've spent over 5 grand on my car :D ...getting a new exhaust system this month too!

my big delema is do i fork out 6 grand for a turbo, or save the money and buy a house
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Go for the house!
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Originally posted by poptom
Go for the house!


......Said the older, responsible voice of Reason, LOL! :D

Get the turbo, you can live anywhere, I'm about to find that out myself. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by black crowes
Anyone who buys a Mustang GT for performance is making a big mistake.

You realize that you could have spent only a few thousand more dollars and bought a 2003 SVT Cobra ($32K). You would end up with 130 more HP, a better sound system, and you really wouldn't need all of these upgrades people are suggesting to increase your performance above a standard GT's ability level.



I bet insurance would be way more.


The 95-98 Mustang GT's are dogs, so I hear. But I hear the 00-02's are quick. Low 14, High 13 second cars.
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Originally posted by CoolJ
I bet insurance would be way more.


The 95-98 Mustang GT's are dogs, so I hear. But I hear the 00-02's are quick. Low 14, High 13 second cars.
Low 14's with good drivers only. I would expet them to run mid-14's, and certainly not 13's off the showroom floor.

Just my 2 cents.

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Originally posted by black crowes
Anyone who buys a Mustang GT for performance is making a big mistake.

You realize that you could have spent only a few thousand more dollars and bought a 2003 SVT Cobra ($32K). You would end up with 130 more HP, a better sound system, and you really wouldn't need all of these upgrades people are suggesting to increase your performance above a standard GT's ability level.


Actually, the MSRP is $34,750 for the 2003 Cobra. The 2002 Mustang GT has an MSRP of $23,845. Not to mention very few places are selling the 2003 Cobra at the MSRP, many are quite a bit higher, but they are slowly starting to come down. I am sure if he had the money he would have ordered a 2003 Cobra. Many of the 2003 Cobras are running low to mid 13s stock. Some drivers can take them about 12.8 - 12.9 stock, but it is very difficult getting traction. So, you almsot have to invest in slicks or drag radials so you don't roast your street tires. Professional drivers can get them to mid 12s stock and they can beat the hell out of the car. If professional drivers break something they tell the manufacturer to send them another car. With some gears (and maybe a new shifter) you can take those 2002 GTs to very high 13s. I would rather have the Cobra, but the GTs are still respectable. If you are buying a Cobra, you sure as hell aren't buying it for the damn sound system ;) If you are buying the Cobra, chances are you plan on doing some modifications to make it faster, so either way you are going to be putting money into it. So, for $6000 - $7500 (which is still cheaper with the difference in pricing) you can probably run with a stock 2003 Cobra. Bottom line, you can make the new Cobra considerably faster with a few minor modifications and it has a better engine to take on more demanding modifications, you can make a GT pretty fast for a little cash still keeping it relatively cheap. I am sure if the people had the money they would take the Cobra over the GT. Any way you cut it, it's racing, cars, and fun :D Plus once you go 11.99 you have to make structural changes to your car. (roll bar, etc) (Assuming you race the legal way)where it is much safer. Instead of picking hitting/killing someone walking down the street, or hitting other vehicles and killing them. Atleast it is (realtively) safe at the track.
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My car was listed at $25,830, the cobra was listed at 34K :) Big difference thier friend. Besides teh way I figure it I will have so much more fun over the next few months/years cutomizing my car myself(with some help from some mechanics). By the way I got 12k for my V6 Trade in (which was awesome) and the dealer took a total of 4k off of the price so with tax and all I got the GT for about 22K. I'm like a kid with a new toy now(this is my first true muscle car) I can't stop riding it around getting a feel for the handling, which by the way BLOWS the V6's handling away. I really do think I am gonna change the exhasut out very soon I just haven't decided on Borlas or flowmasters yet, which sounds better :) ? I'm happy to announce I dusted my first "rice" car with the GT tonight.....as of now 256 Miles on the odometer breaking it in.

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I am with AAF Striker on Flowmaster. They are better for adding weight than actual performance. There are much better systems.

Definitely go for the chip!!

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Originally posted by ghost
Low 14's with good drivers only. I would expet them to run mid-14's, and certainly not 13's off the showroom floor.

Just my 2 cents.

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I defenetly agree. I just heard a few people pulled off 13.9's with there 02 GT 5-speed. But ya know, thats on the internet. Where everyones car runs 12's :p
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Originally posted by MIKEJ@COMCAST
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I'm happy to announce I dusted my first "rice" car with the GT tonight.....as of now 256 Miles on the odometer breaking it in.

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Gonna clean up the car this weekend, take some pics of mine and my buddies 96 transam. I'd like to post them I just need to figure out how to add the link for the pics on these boards....I already got some cool ideas for the decal...no stickers though gonna be painted professionally :)
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Originally posted by black crowes
Anyone who buys a Mustang GT for performance is making a big mistake.

You realize that you could have spent only a few thousand more dollars and bought a 2003 SVT Cobra ($32K). You would end up with 130 more HP, a better sound system, and you really wouldn't need all of these upgrades people are suggesting to increase your performance above a standard GT's ability level.


no ****! if you buy it and right away add in all the money for mods u got fu*ked...spend a little more get a cobra and then if u do get more money spend it on cobra upgrades...wow you got a GT..so does every other guy on the highway...if you would of gone for the extra money and got a cobra ppl would say wow what a cool car...how much did you spend on the GT? did you get 0% for 3 years or anything?
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I've never seen a Mustang on the road before. Can someone send me a picture?
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So he saves ~$10,000 and runs .5 - 1 second slower than a stock 2003 Cobra. I'd say it is a pretty damn good buy still. Say he slowly puts some money in, it would be more worth to see what you can go from and get to. (without a power adder, then eventually add) It is more of a challenge (and fun) if you ask me. Ghost/Cool J (etc) know I am all about the Cobra, but I don't see why the hell you guys are busting his balls. Lay off :mad:
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Dude, some people have no grasp for money :) First of all I'm customizing my GT so it's not gonna look like "every other guy's GT" Second of all the MSRP for the GT was $25,830.00 I got 2k knocked off of it then another 2k since it was 02 and they wanted it off the lot. So I get my my GT for 22k(Corbras 34-35k!! big difference, 12k is not "just a few more bucks to me)...not bad at all with the 12k trade in of my V6 stang. Now the fun begins of modding the car to make it my own Unique GT unlike "every other guys's GT".
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Originally posted by MIKEJ@COMCAST
Dude, some people have no grasp for money :) First of all I'm customizing my GT so it's not gonna look like "every other guy's GT" Second of all the MSRP for the GT was $25,830.00 I got 2k knocked off of it then another 2k since it was 02 and they wanted it off the lot. So I get my my GT for 22k(Corbras 34-35k!! big difference, 12k is not "just a few more bucks to me)...not bad at all with the 12k trade in of my V6 stang. Now the fun begins of modding the car to make it my own Unique GT unlike "every other guys's GT".


u thionk ur the only one who buys the parts in the mags? if u got 4k off msrp for a year old car u got ****ed....u get 0% apr?
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First off it's hardly a year old car. To me a car with 2 miles on it when you get in the drivers seat is hardly a year old LOL...4k off of MSRp is a good price.....22k for a brand new fully loaded mustang GT is a good price...look at the list price son http://www.kbb.com . And if I got a cobra and didn't do **** to it(cause then i wouldn't have the money to) it would be like every other person's cobra that owns one. No matter what parts you buy or what parts you get with you car another person has those same parts in thier car. But to have a unique look to your car and to have different combinations of mods makes the car your own and not just another mustang GT that "every other guy has". Good day to you.

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