Radeon 9700 vs. GeForce4 Ti4600

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 7:41 pm

Which has the better specs? I'll be in the market for a new video card in about a month or so when I get a bonus check from work, and I'm leaning towards the Ti4600...I know ATI has a history of shaky drivers, but have they gotten better with the latest crop of vidcards?

Currently, in one of my machines, I have an ATI Radeon 32Meg DDR, and in my other two machines, I have GeForce2 32 meg cards....

cy · Post by cy » Fri Aug 23, 2002 7:50 pm

I believe from benchmarking, Radeon 9700 has better score. However like you said, ATi has some shaky driver. My uncle's ATI Rage fury Pro 32MB has a really shaky driver, i absolutely hate it.

njeddiek · Post by **njeddiek** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 8:15 pm

If you want the best performing card than the ATI 9700 is the way to go. There track record with drivers is pretty bad but lately they have made great advances in stability. The Ti4600 is only worth getting if the price is right.

Immortal · Post by **Immortal** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 8:42 pm

is the new nv30 not around the corner?

cy · Post by cy » Fri Aug 23, 2002 10:06 pm

Originally posted by Immortal
is the new nv30 not around the corner?

Probably not til later on this year though

But it'll be around the same price as the 9700

Docsta · Post by **Docsta** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 10:23 pm

like i said...Ati is gonna buy out Nvidia in about 5 years or so..they are slowly creeping up on them...MWAHAHAHAHA MY FANTASY WILL BE REAL ONE DAY!!! AN ALL ATI WORLD>>> MWAHAHAHA

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 10:48 pm

I was up at Best Buy today and they are pre-selling the 9700 for about $390...the Ti4600 is around $320...but the price really isn't going to be an issue...I (for once) want to get the best card that is available on the market...

cy · Post by cy » Fri Aug 23, 2002 10:59 pm

best card probably is the 9700 for now. However if you look at long term, NV30 that's coming out later on this year might own the 9700 since 9700 released before they do, nVidia will have more time to improve theirs

ScottE · Post by **ScottE** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 11:01 pm

Originally posted by Indy
I was up at Best Buy today and they are pre-selling the 9700 for about $390...the Ti4600 is around $320...but the price really isn't going to be an issue...I (for once) want to get the best card that is available on the market...

I currently Have a Radeon 8500 here in my main. It's been running like a champ. Early on ATI had some driver issues, but now they are solid. I haven't had any problems with them. I can't speak for everyone else, but I like my Radeon. Might be looking into moving up to a 9700 here for my main and taking the 8500 and replacing the Voodoo5500 that's in the secondary.

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 11:47 pm

Originally posted by cy
best card probably is the 9700 for now. However if you look at long term, NV30 that's coming out later on this year might own the 9700 since 9700 released before they do, nVidia will have more time to improve theirs

Hmm...may have to consider that down the road...for the time being tho (especially since I have a big lan meet next month), it's gonna come down to one of these two cards...

cy · Post by cy » Fri Aug 23, 2002 11:52 pm

Originally posted by Indy

Hmm...may have to consider that down the road...for the time being tho (especially since I have a big lan meet next month), it's gonna come down to one of these two cards...

O, ic.....so probably go with the Radeon 9700

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 11:55 pm

Indy,
I have the Abit GF4 Ti4400, great card!

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 11:57 pm

Originally posted by cy

O, ic.....so probably go with the Radeon 9700

May just go that way....time to go look at some specs

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 11:58 pm

Originally posted by Ken
Indy,
I have the Abit GF4 Ti4400, great card!

I've heard a lot of good things about the Ti series, but are the differences between the Ti4600 and the 9700 substantial? I mean to the tune of $75 difference between the two?

LT-73 · Post by **LT-73** » Sat Aug 24, 2002 12:06 am

I lub my Ti and i'm looking at the Ti4400. it's alittle outta my reach, but soon she'll be mine !! all mine !!! Bwhahahahaha !

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sat Aug 24, 2002 12:09 am

Originally posted by Indy

I've heard a lot of good things about the Ti series, but are the differences between the Ti4600 and the 9700 substantial? I mean to the tune of $75 difference between the two?

All I can say is that the GF4 has had time to be proven, and the 9700 hasn't yet...
Yeah, there is some early release reviews, well a few...
Plenty of reviews out for the GF4...

njeddiek · Post by **njeddiek** » Sat Aug 24, 2002 12:13 am

The 9700 is quite a bit faster than the Ti4600. Especially with FSAA and anisotropic on. Hardocp and Anandtech have benchmark results comparing the 9700 to the Ti4600.

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Sat Aug 24, 2002 12:26 am

Originally posted by njeddiek
The 9700 is quite a bit faster than the Ti4600. Especially with FSAA and anisotropic on. Hardocp and Anandtech have benchmark results comparing the 9700 to the Ti4600.

Anandtech's got a nice review up about the 9700...definitely making a strong case for me to go that direction...pretty much whips up on the GeForce card...

cy · Post by cy » Sat Aug 24, 2002 1:04 am

Originally posted by Ken

All I can say is that the GF4 has had time to be proven, and the 9700 hasn't yet...
Yeah, there is some early release reviews, well a few...
Plenty of reviews out for the GF4...

I would say from the reviews, 9700 is a faster card, but Ken is right! Should give it more time, at least let Brent finish his review on it, the make your decision if it's not too late

ssjDoh · Post by **ssjDoh** » Sat Aug 24, 2002 2:19 am

Or, you can also wait for the PRO version (ATI). Gigabyte is releasing a 9700 with 400MHz core.

Although, ATI might release them when Nvidia releases their next chip.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Sat Aug 24, 2002 2:19 am

I would wait until doom3 comes out and see which card runs the best on it!

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Sat Aug 24, 2002 8:26 am

Originally posted by davy19
I would wait until doom3 comes out and see which card runs the best on it!

Well, either one will definitely run better than what I've got now

Looks like I'm leaning towards the 9700 right now....

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat Aug 24, 2002 8:26 am

i went with teh ti4600, i have the radeon 8500 128meg card and the drivers still arent on par with what they should be. too many issues to deal with to just make it WORK.

Mantle67 · Post by **Mantle67** » Sat Aug 24, 2002 2:57 pm

Originally posted by Ken
Indy,
I have the Abit GF4 Ti4400, great card!

i have the same card, works great, and it was ez to oc too. id go for the 4600 or wait for the new nv30

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Sat Aug 24, 2002 3:00 pm

These reviews that I'm reading are making it harder for me to go with the 4600:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3 ... 966,00.asp

Looks like the 9700 has a substantial improvement over the GeForce4...

What that translates into in real world situations is not readily known yet, since the card itself doesn't hit the market for a couple of weeks yet...

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat Aug 24, 2002 3:14 pm

Ti4600

cuz u know its gonna work with ur games and the ones in the near future.