SG f@h is hurting

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:26 am

Software that runs in the background.
Easy to install in less than 5 minutes.

Crunches protein folding equations and tries to find cures for cancers, alzheimer's, parkinson's, huntington's, malaria, and several others: http://folding.stanford.edu/home/faq/faq-diseases/
Centered at Stanford University, going for over a decade.

The SpeedGuide team has been going for years and is at a very low point in participation and points. Any help is much appreciated, whether having it run on in the background on a surfing computer or setting up a graphics card to fold (both work).

I make posts like this every couple of years but have never seen participation this low.

Lost my mother 16 months ago and hope that running this can keep other individuals and families from the pains we all went through.

Welcome to join my team or fold alone, all team 15 points go to SG, and even if you don't join a team the points end up in the right place.

Happy to answer any questions http://forums.speedguide.net/forumdispl ... -Computing, as are many other people.

Thank you.

Far-N-Wide · Post by **Far-N-Wide** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:20 am

You can also start here http://folding.stanford.edu/
Please do a bit of reading, there is a "Click Here" link on that page. Follow the instructions, enter Team 15 is you want to fold for Speedguide's team. You will have to come up with a name for yourself. The down load program that does the folding is quite small and takes up less memory that most anti virus programs. It runs quietly in the back ground of your PC you may not notice it running.

I have a gaming PC. Windows 7, 8 gig of ram, I7 CPU 2.67 GHz with a 650 Nvidia graphics card.

With this PC and the basic setting that come with the folding program at installation I leave my workstation running 24 / 7 and still play online games without having to stop the folding. I stream Netflix on my PC and anything I do on my PC the folding will slow down and take a back seat to whatever I am doing. When I am not doing anything Folding will process Work Units a bit faster. I have advanced setting on my PC and my PC has slight lag, mostly with typing documents, game play is not effected.

If this something you can support and want to teak your machine for more power and advanced options this link http://forums.speedguide.net/forumdisplay.php?51-SG-Distributed-Computing can be of help. It' a bit outdated but help can be provider none the less.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:09 am

whump

down to 8 active folders out of everyone on this forum...regulars, mods, lurkers (he was a true ass), software and hardware gurus, freaks, and lushes.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:47 am

i will be adding a new intel 6 core PC i am building soon for awhile to "burn" her in

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:23 pm

Mark wrote:i will be adding a new intel 6 core PC i am building soon for awhile to "burn" her in

Good news

Are you anywhere near Clearwater Mark?

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:05 pm

Humboldt wrote:Good news

Are you anywhere near Clearwater Mark?

yes i am

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:41 pm

Mark wrote:yes i am

Just wondering. Trini is going to be in your neck of the woods next week on a business trip.

Paft · Post by **Paft** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:28 pm

Eh, what the hell. I re-installed it. Glad to see the DOS interface is gone and a new web client is enabled.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:39 pm

Paft wrote:Eh, what the hell. I re-installed it. Glad to see the DOS interface is gone and a new web client is enabled.

woot

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:04 pm

added 8 more cores and 1 GPU

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:24 pm

morbidpete wrote:added 6 more cores and 1 GPU

Awesome

Will be looking for you in my rear view mirror, coming up fast.

loop2kil · Post by **loop2kil** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:49 pm

I upgraded and reloaded my OS recently and forgot to re-install...Rolling now on the new setup: Xeon E3-1270V2 @ 3.5 ghz / 16gb / HD7950
And holy crap the 7950 is gonna be putting up some nice numbers if the PPD estimates are accurate.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:48 pm

loop2kil wrote:I upgraded and reloaded my OS recently and forgot to re-install...Rolling now on the new setup: Xeon E3-1270V2 @ 3.5 ghz / 16gb / HD7950
And holy crap the 7950 is gonna be putting up some nice numbers if the PPD estimates are accurate.

Good to hear

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:41 am

Paft wrote:Eh, what the hell. I re-installed it. Glad to see the DOS interface is gone and a new web client is enabled.

and your back on the board!

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/ ... hp?s=&t=15

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:02 pm

Great job guys: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/ ... hp?s=&t=15

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:12 pm

Humboldt wrote:Great job guys: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/ ... hp?s=&t=15

i am still in 12th place, but loop is gonna catch and pass me soon

are nvida video cards still the prefered brand over amd cards ?

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:32 pm

Mark wrote:i am still in 12th place, but loop is gonna catch and pass me soon

are nvida video cards still the prefered brand over amd cards ?

yea, Cuda kicks the crap out of AMD. F@H has to use open CL to utilize AMD cards.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:32 pm

Mark wrote:i am still in 12th place, but loop is gonna catch and pass me soon

are nvida video cards still the prefered brand over amd cards ?

For years yes, many times over.
More recently I think Radeon have caught back up (rather, f@h optimized itself for both) and it's a level plaiyng field again.

What are you using?

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:50 pm

intel 4930K, still trying to figure out the stable overclock, but at about 4.4Ghz now, AMD R9 280X video card

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:52 pm

I've had good luck setting gpu flags for the beta wu's.

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:26 pm

well after messing around with the new client, Found that it defaults to "medium" and on medium, the GPU does not fold unless your at a screen saver or the screen shuts off, lost a day of folding on 2 GPU's. Set to full and its working fine now

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:32 pm

morbidpete wrote:well after messing around with the new client, Found that it defaults to "medium" and on medium, the GPU does not fold unless your at a screen saver or the screen shuts off, lost a day of folding on 2 GPU's. Set to full and its working fine now

Not sure how I feel about the new client, but yes, it does default to a lower setting. I don't even use the web aspect of it.

loop2kil · Post by **loop2kil** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:23 pm

morbidpete wrote:yea, Cuda kicks the crap out of AMD. F@H has to use open CL to utilize AMD cards.

Hold on a minute there bucko

I've had it running since Saturday and it's stayed showing ~100k Ppd the whole time

Something has been optimized on the either the AMD drivers or F@H client....or it's just a lie, like the pie.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:56 pm

loop2kil wrote:Hold on a minute there bucko I've had it running since Saturday and it's stayed showing ~100k Ppd the whole time
Something has been optimized on the either the AMD drivers or F@H client....or it's just a lie, like the pie.

Ahem

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:09 pm

@loop good god, my nvidia always beat my AMD, But that was last year and AMD was just starting to be supported. I have a an AMD 7750 only pushing 12k :-(

loop2kil · Post by **loop2kil** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:13 pm

morbidpete wrote:@loop good god, my nvidia always beat my AMD, But that was last year and AMD was just starting to be supported. I have a an AMD 7750 only pushing 12k :-(

I think it's a lie personally, look at my production so far it just doesn't add up. I think I will wait until the end of the week and see what it has done then celebrate or curse it.

P.S. I still have a hard time calling them AMD video cards...Always will be ATI to me

loop2kil · Post by **loop2kil** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:22 pm

Okay, looks like my GPU finished a 28k point unit over an hour ago and it hasn't shown up in my points today on the website. Is it lost or does it normally take this long to post. Are there point hackers out there?

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:32 pm

loop2kil wrote:Okay, looks like my GPU finished a 28k point unit over an hour ago and it hasn't shown up in my points today on the website. Is it lost or does it normally take this long to post. Are there point hackers out there?

stanford and extreme overclocking dont update immediately, they poll every so often. It will show.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:56 pm

loop2kil wrote:Okay, looks like my GPU finished a 28k point unit over an hour ago and it hasn't shown up in my points today on the website. Is it lost or does it normally take this long to post. Are there point hackers out there?

Like Pete said, it's not instant. They show updates every 3 hours, and I've found that points submitted in the last hour before an update often won't show until the following update.
Just to be sure, double check your team # and username.

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:28 pm

Moved up a slot, #9 now!

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:16 am

Moving on up!
Thanks Paft, DV, Fastchevy, Loop2Kil, and MorbidPete for starting up again

Always good to see you Minir.

Looks like I might need to add another machine to stay ahead of you guys.

Wouldn't be anywhere close to where we are without rickoic (99% of the SG team right there, look at his stats and you'll be amazed), BTracy, Far-N-Wide, and Mr SCat

Everyone else, we still need your help!
Feel free to ask any questions here or in the SG distributed computing forum. It's as easy as trini's sister, equally rewarding, and for a great cause.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:56 pm

does this look about right for a 6 core intel cpu @4.2Ghz and a new amd rx 290 video card ?

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:02 pm

Mark wrote:does this look about right for a 6 core intel cpu @4.2Ghz and a new amd rx 290 video card ?

Not sure Mark, my system's are old hyper-threaded and dual core, and looks like the jury is still out on that gpu: http://www.overclock.net/t/1436884/r9-2 ... pd-results

The total ppd seems way high to me, are you seeing any results like that?

Also, in the picture the "folding power" is turned off.

loop2kil · Post by **loop2kil** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:22 pm

Mark, the PPD statistic is a lie. Mine shows ~116k PPD but I actually only averaged 30k per day over the last week.

Far-N-Wide · Post by **Far-N-Wide** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:12 pm

The better core processor is nice but the big points come from the GPU video card. I have a quad core I7 920 2.6gig, each core maybe makes 700 points a day. The gtx560 display card does about 17k. I've been playing with only 3 active core the 4th core is not in use and the points on the display card went up about by about 500 to 2000 per day.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:59 pm

Far-N-Wide wrote:The better core processor is nice but the big points come from the GPU video card. I have a quad core I7 920 2.6gig, each core maybe makes 700 points a day. The gtx560 display card does about 17k. I've been playing with only 3 active core the 4th core is not in use and the points on the display card went up about by about 500 to 2000 per day.

What he said

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:37 pm

Far-N-Wide wrote:The better core processor is nice but the big points come from the GPU video card. I have a quad core I7 920 2.6gig, each core maybe makes 700 points a day. The gtx560 display card does about 17k. I've been playing with only 3 active core the 4th core is not in use and the points on the display card went up about by about 500 to 2000 per day.

how would i change that setting ?

Far-N-Wide · Post by **Far-N-Wide** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:33 pm

To understand this a little better a Quad core has 8 CPUs (look at the performance Tab on your task manager). You can leave all 8 folding or If you have a single Display card leave 2 CPUs inactive. By default the 2 inactive CPUs will assist the display card fold GPUs faster.

Open your Folding client and click on Configure. Click n the Slot tab, under the Folding slots highlight "ID 1 type cpu" On the lower right of this tab, click on edit. You will then see a section for CPU and a section for GPU (leave the GPU section alone).

On the CPU section change the setting from -1 to 6. Remember 8 is max of a quad core, so setting at 6 will free up 2 CPUs for the display card. At 1st it will seem that there is no change on points. but over time you will see an increase. It took me several weeks of off and on testing to decide to leave this at 6.

Some one punch my Nerd Card!

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:10 am

Far-N-Wide wrote:To understand this a little better a Quad core has 8 CPUs (look at the performance Tab on your task manager). You can leave all 8 folding or If you have a single Display card leave 2 CPUs inactive. By default the 2 inactive CPUs will assist the display card fold GPUs faster.

Open your Folding client and click on Configure. Click n the Slot tab, under the Folding slots highlight "ID 1 type cpu" On the lower right of this tab, click on edit. You will then see a section for CPU and a section for GPU (leave the GPU section alone).

On the CPU section change the setting from -1 to 6. Remember 8 is max of a quad core, so setting at 6 will free up 2 CPUs for the display card. At 1st it will seem that there is no change on points. but over time you will see an increase. It took me several weeks of off and on testing to decide to leave this at 6.

Some one punch my Nerd Card!

Thanks Far-N-Wide. I could get him to the Slot CPU configuration but wasn't sure what value to set. Hoping you'd chime in.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:58 am

okay i changed it to 10 for my 6core CPU, but it says in log file that it may cause errors ?

still waiting for bonus points from my passkey and only folding at nite time for now