Change RWIN on windows 7

sonsa · Post by **sonsa** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:00 am

Hi
I can't find any thread about this, HOW do i change rwin on windows 7?

I have 100/10 mbit connection and i get this result
I live in Sweden btw...

« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »
Tested on: 12.13.2009 10:45
IP address: 83.255.xxx.xxx
Client OS: Windows 7

TCP options string: 020405b40103030201010402
MSS: 1460
MTU: 1500
TCP Window: 65700 (multiple of MSS)
RWIN Scaling: 2 bits (2^2=4)
Unscaled RWIN : 16425
Recommended RWINs: 64240, 128480, 256960, 513920, 1027840
BDP limit (200ms): 2628kbps (329KBytes/s)
BDP limit (500ms): 1051kbps (131KBytes/s)
MTU Discovery: ON
TTL: 104
Timestamps: OFF
SACKs: ON
IP ToS: 00000000 (0)

According to this site i should have 1027840 in rwin, but how do i change it?.

I have done the netsh blabla and set to restricted, should i change it to something else?
And also i have done the vista autotune reg file.

Please help

akbarri · Post by **akbarri** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:14 pm

sonsa wrote: ................
I have done the netsh blabla and set to restricted, should i change it to something else?
And also i have done the vista autotune reg file.

Please help

show me ur last NETSH configuration??

sonsa · Post by **sonsa** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:25 am

akbarri wrote:show me ur last NETSH configuration??

Global TCP-parameters
----------------------------------------------
Receive-Side Scaling State : enabled
Chimney Offload State : enabled
NetDMA : enabled
DCA (Direct Cache Acess) : disabled
Receive Window Auto-Tuning Level : restricted
Add-On Congestion Control Provider : ctcp
ECN Capability : disabled
RFC 1323 Timestamps : disabled

sonsa · Post by **sonsa** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:02 am

I just did a pingtest and oh my god...

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:49 am

http://www.speedguide.net/files/vista/S ... _patch.cmd try this tool and select optimal also can post a tracert to our provider please thanks

sonsa · Post by **sonsa** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:00 pm

mccoffee wrote:http://www.speedguide.net/files/vista/S ... _patch.cmd try this tool and select optimal also can post a tracert to our provider please thanks

I have already done that tcpip patch. Is it tracert speedguide.net or?

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:02 pm

doesn't matter it could be to speedguide.net try this settting on normal though Receive Window Auto-Tuning Level :

cmd
tracert http://www.speedguide.net

sonsa · Post by **sonsa** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:10 pm

mccoffee wrote:doesn't matter it could be to speedguide.net try this settting on normal though Receive Window Auto-Tuning Level :

cmd
tracert http://www.speedguide.net

Wow thats alot of providers

1 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms c83-255-152-1.bredband.comhem.se [83.255.152.1]

2 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 83.255.243.192
3 13 ms 13 ms 14 ms ave-bb-r-01-to-os-bb-r-01.comhem.se [83.255.252.
28]
4 24 ms 15 ms 15 ms ***-bb-r-01-to-ave-bb-r-01.comhem.se [83.255.252
.22]
5 19 ms 21 ms 17 ms nap-bb-r-01-to-***-bb-r-01.comhem.se [83.255.252
.10]
6 18 ms 19 ms 17 ms mtc-pr-r-01-to-nap-bb-r-01.comhem.se [83.255.252
.234]
7 18 ms 18 ms 19 ms 162.97.118.229
8 37 ms 36 ms 37 ms xe-4-2-0.edge4.Amsterdam1.level3.net [213.244.16
5.237]
9 37 ms 37 ms 36 ms ae-33-51.ebr1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.139.12
9]
10 55 ms 49 ms 49 ms ae-2-2.ebr2.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net [4.69.133.90]

11 42 ms 42 ms 41 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net [4.69.141.1
49]
12 42 ms 42 ms 41 ms ae-2-2.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.132.138]

13 125 ms 124 ms 123 ms ae-42-42.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.137.5
4]
14 131 ms 143 ms 131 ms ae-62-62.csw1.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.134.1
46]
15 138 ms 143 ms 130 ms ae-61-61.ebr1.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.134.1
29]
16 150 ms 144 ms * ae-2.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net [4.69.132.85]
17 151 ms 144 ms 143 ms ae-72-70.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net [4.69.138.19]

18 159 ms 159 ms 158 ms ae-1-6.bar1.Tampa1.Level3.net [4.69.137.113]
19 156 ms 156 ms 156 ms ae-5-5.car1.Tampa1.Level3.net [4.69.133.49]
20 165 ms 164 ms 165 ms ae-13-13.car3.Tampa1.Level3.net [4.69.133.54]
21 160 ms 160 ms 158 ms level3.co1.as30217.net [4.71.0.14]
22 162 ms 171 ms 161 ms 84.40.24.50
23 161 ms 158 ms 160 ms 84.40.24.82
24 166 ms 167 ms 165 ms 84.40.24.134
25 163 ms 163 ms 164 ms speedguide.net [66.230.207.58]

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:08 pm

Your first hop is kinda of high try leaving the modem off for about 10 mins also if the network cable is older maybe try replacing it if you sill have a higher ping time at hop 1.

If you still are expirencing high ping have tech come out and sweep the pole/line and make sure the modem is working right.

8ms is kina high for a first hop my guess is it's something physical.

sonsa · Post by **sonsa** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:40 pm

mccoffee wrote:Your first hop is kinda of high try leaving the modem off for about 10 mins also if the network cable is older maybe try replacing it if you sill have a higher ping time at hop 1.

If you still are expirencing high ping have tech come out and sweep the pole/line and make sure the modem is working right.

8ms is kina high for a first hop my guess is it's something physical.

My modem is new and my network cable is a cat.6 10m and its like a couple of months old.

I think i have to call my provider, its just to bad they suck at these things, takes like 2 hours to get them to finally understand my problem. And when they do, they just report my issue to the station that provides my connection. And then they say its fixed, but the problems is still the same usually. I pay 349kr a month (wich is around 50 us dollars) So i really hope they fix it.

If i turn the modem off for 10 min and then back on the ping is same and the package loss is a bit better but it is still bad, around 60%+.
I got 6ms on first hop after turning it off and on.

sonsa · Post by **sonsa** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:20 pm

Well i figuered the ping problem out, my provider had my old modem logged in, so he changed it to the new modem and said the package loss would stop.

Anyways, back to my question in topic. How do i change RWIN value?
It says i should have 1027840 but i only have 60000-ish...

I have tried Disabled, normal, restricted and experimental. But the RWIN stays the same...

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:02 pm

vista/7/2008 doesn't really use rwin anymore trying to change would be pointless. The normal and restrictive/expremental all tehnically raise or lower the values for defualt recive window on it's own.

That's good you got the modem figured out just keep it at normal or restricted for the auto tune you shouldn't need to use expiremental or the other ones.

If you haven't already to disable qos in the sg toool and disable the ipv/6 and network discorvery stuff in control panel network and sharring

sonsa · Post by **sonsa** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:55 pm

Hmm the package loss is still high. Damnit...

It says in the analyzer: RWIN is not fully optimized (even though it is a comparatively large number). The unscaled RWIN value is lower than it should be. Also, RWIN being close to and above 65535 does not justify the header overhead of enabling TCP 1323 Options. You might want to use one of the recommended RWIN values below

Why cant i change it?

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:32 pm

aS said above windows 7/vista/2008 doesn't use tcp window size anymore ,and evem if you do change the numbers it won't matter away since it's totally new protocol of tcp read here it will explian more. Don't worry about the anaylzer figure out what is causing the packetloss try leaving the modem off for 20mins maybe even a half hour see if ti's better if not do a tracert to a website cut and paste the rsaults here.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w ... 1obZBTi2lg

sonsa · Post by **sonsa** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:06 am

mccoffee wrote:aS said above windows 7/vista/2008 doesn't use tcp window size anymore ,and evem if you do change the numbers it won't matter away since it's totally new protocol of tcp read here it will explian more. Don't worry about the anaylzer figure out what is causing the packetloss try leaving the modem off for 20mins maybe even a half hour see if ti's better if not do a tracert to a website cut and paste the rsaults here.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w ... 1obZBTi2lg

No change, packetloss 58% and heres the tracert:
1 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms c83-255-152-1.bredband.comhem.se [83.255.152.1]

2 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms 83.255.243.192
3 14 ms 16 ms 12 ms ave-bb-r-01-to-os-bb-r-01.comhem.se [83.255.252.
28]
4 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms ***-bb-r-01-to-ave-bb-r-01.comhem.se [83.255.252
.22]
5 20 ms 19 ms 17 ms nap-bb-r-01-to-***-bb-r-01.comhem.se [83.255.252
.10]
6 18 ms 18 ms 20 ms mtc-pr-r-01-to-nap-bb-r-01.comhem.se [83.255.252
.234]
7 19 ms 17 ms 18 ms 162.97.118.229
8 37 ms 35 ms 36 ms xe-4-2-0.edge4.Amsterdam1.level3.net [213.244.16
5.237]
9 37 ms 37 ms 36 ms ae-33-51.ebr1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.139.12
9]
10 * 46 ms 44 ms ae-2-2.ebr2.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net [4.69.133.90]

11 42 ms 41 ms 39 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net [4.69.141.1
49]
12 42 ms 42 ms 39 ms ae-2-2.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.132.138]

13 124 ms 124 ms 123 ms ae-43-43.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.137.5
8]
14 134 ms 126 ms 127 ms ae-92-92.csw4.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.134.1
58]
15 133 ms 126 ms 126 ms ae-91-91.ebr1.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.134.1
41]
16 147 ms 144 ms * ae-2.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net [4.69.132.85]
17 146 ms 143 ms 144 ms ae-72-70.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net [4.69.138.19]

18 157 ms 155 ms 155 ms ae-1-6.bar1.Tampa1.Level3.net [4.69.137.113]
19 154 ms 153 ms 155 ms ae-5-5.car1.Tampa1.Level3.net [4.69.133.49]
20 162 ms 163 ms 163 ms ae-13-13.car3.Tampa1.Level3.net [4.69.133.54]
21 157 ms 157 ms 159 ms level3.co1.as30217.net [4.71.0.14]
22 162 ms 160 ms 162 ms 84.40.24.50
23 158 ms 157 ms 160 ms 84.40.24.82
24 164 ms 163 ms 164 ms 84.40.24.134
25 166 ms 160 ms 162 ms speedguide.net [66.230.207.58]

sonsa · Post by **sonsa** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:21 pm

Thanks for all the help btw mccoffee

I solved the package loss problem, just entered my modem meny and disabled ip flood detection. And that also solved my other problem wich i didnt bring up in here, whenever i download something my browser is slow as a 56k modem, but now its all good

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:18 pm

Sorry I didn't reply been busy/sick that's good you figured it out. Odd that flood protection would cause that high of a spike though it could be that isp has something on thieir end causing the conflict.

I know a few ips work better by disbling syn flood and block wan request. Some isps if you left that feature on it doesn't matte cause that latency odd. .

kelkhatan · Post by **kelkhatan** » Sun May 15, 2011 3:49 pm

I know this thread died long ago, but I figured, that mccoffee could still help me out. MY internetspeed changes from "as intended" (20mbps) to really weak (3mbps) and this without any clear action.

I used SG TCP Optimizer and the result was great --> 20mbps but after a week or so I am down again.

Here my MTU / Latency (

Pinging [68.67.73.20] with 32 bytes ->
1 0ms 0ms 0ms 175.11.0.1
Request Timed Out
3 12ms 28ms 36ms 217.168.57.129
4 10ms 15ms 17ms 172.31.208.73
5 184ms 201ms 159ms 84.116.134.57
6 169ms 119ms 123ms 84.116.134.25
7 157ms 137ms 118ms 84.116.130.70
8 118ms 165ms 118ms 84.116.130.106
Request Timed Out
10 151ms 187ms 151ms 66.192.249.142
11 204ms 168ms 179ms 68.67.73.20
Traceroute complete: Destination is 11 hops away

Can you make any sense out of this?

Thank you in advance.

Greetings
Kel

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Mon May 16, 2011 4:01 pm

Your ping times look better make sure your modem firmware is up to date and also your windows seoftware/drivers are updated.

kylopillay · Post by **kylopillay** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:16 pm

sonsa how exactly did you disable your ip flood detection beacause i am also experiencing where slow downloading speeds