North Korea Launches Attack on South Korean Island; 2 Dead

Shinobi · Post by **Shinobi** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:31 am

North Korea Fires Artillery at Island in South; Seoul Scrambles Jets
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/23 ... z166WVM3m3

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:33 am

Saw another article that said South Korea returned fire. North Korea looking for some attention maybe.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:14 am

Not surprisingly NK is saying SK fired first.

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:19 am

Here we go.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:24 am

WW3 was going to start at some point... here it is, Iran will join forces with NK and all hell will break loose. Time to start stocking up on stuff like gas...

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:50 am

Sava700 wrote:WW3 was going to start at some point... here it is, Iran will join forces with NK and all hell will break loose. Time to start stocking up on stuff like gas...

I think too much is made of the NK offense. Same can be said for Iran. Just a ripple on the pond.... but that's just my little opinion.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:06 am

MadDoctor wrote:I think too much is made of the NK offense. Same can be said for Iran. Just a ripple on the pond.... but that's just my little opinion.

sometimes those ripples dislodge something from the edges that causes the dam to burst too

Easto · Post by **Easto** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:22 am

MadDoctor wrote:I think too much is made of the NK offense. Same can be said for Iran. Just a ripple on the pond.... but that's just my little opinion.

Unfortunately it's a game of cat and mouse with deadly consequences.

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:28 am

What does NK and Iran bring to the table? Probably not much. The big question is what does China do. Since China holds most of our IOUs, would they really want to get into a pissing contest at that level?

Not being argumentative, just throwing balls into the dirt because no one is at work today.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:30 pm

MadDoctor wrote:What does NK and Iran bring to the table? Probably not much. The big question is what does China do. Since China holds most of our IOUs, would they really want to get into a pissing contest at that level?

Not being argumentative, just throwing balls into the dirt because no one is at work today.

China seems to be playing things pretty smart so far.

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:37 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:China seems to be playing things pretty smart so far.

I agree. China can take this so many ways. Actual combat... or demand payment on the loans the USA has with them. That would put us on our knees over night.

Easto · Post by **Easto** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:55 pm

MadDoctor wrote:I agree. China can take this so many ways. Actual combat... or demand payment on the loans the USA has with them. That would put us on our knees over night.

Fortunately any slowdown, let alone a cease in trading between the two countries would not be in anyone's best interest. It wouldn't happen.

The question is how far with China go in backing up the North (with force).

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:21 pm

Easto wrote:The question is how far with China go in backing up the North (with force).

It depends on what China's best interests/priorities are.

SYC0SIS · Post by **SYC0SIS** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:45 pm

I just can't see China turning down billions of dollars of debt from the rest of the world to back up NK

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:10 pm

War will happen..just on what scale beyond what is already taking place in the Gulf is the question. NK and many other nations could stand to have a nice economic boost after the war is over much like WWII did with the US which is prob what the US needs... look at all the jobs the Gulf wars have helped create in the states not to mention what would happen if all those soldiers came home to a over 9% unemployment rate.

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:50 pm

Where is Arec Bardwin when you need him!

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:54 pm

MadDoctor wrote:I agree. China can take this so many ways. Actual combat... or demand payment on the loans the USA has with them. That would put us on our knees over night.

Not in China's best interest to call in the debt but they can sure wreak havoc in many ways.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:51 am

Did the south fire back? i don't remember reading that.

i wonder what he means by special "measures".

"The close cooperation between the U.S. and South Korea will be maintained and there will be special measures for the damage done to the village."

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:55 am

Gixxer wrote:Did the south fire back? i don't remember reading that.

i wonder what he means by special "measures".

"The close cooperation between the U.S. and South Korea will be maintained and there will be special measures for the damage done to the village."

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:10 am

One thing is certain, people tend not to raise hell when the American economy is good. Being this close to another collapse, it's no wonder that these rogue countries are stepping it up a notch. We simply don't have the money to fight multiple wars on multiple fronts.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:53 pm

Someone sent me this in an email. I have no idea of the validity, perhaps some of you with more time than I would like to research it...

[YOUTUBE]4WGcSuGojYA&feature=player_embedded[/YOUTUBE]

With our massive amount of debt owed to China, what would we do if they decided to demand their money complete, no more interest only payments, and if we couldn't pay, opt to take possession of say ... Ft Knox or perhaps even a state... How would the world react if China decided to claim a small state such as Mass or Hawaii in lieu of payment? Would they have the right? Could/would we stop them? Whose side would United Nations be on? NATO? Illuminati?

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:58 pm

Seems bogus, and why post that here and not in the missile thread?

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:00 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:Seems bogus, and why post that here and not in the missile thread?

Simple, the references to our debt to China confused me into thinking this was that thread...

Why so quick to dismiss it as "seems bogus"?

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:05 pm

Ken wrote:Simple, the references to our debt to China confused me into thinking this was that thread...

Why so quick to dismiss it as "seems bogus"?

The explanation from a group that I found on the google news site when this was fresh seems logical, their explanation and looking at the image at a slightly different angle makes it fit a little better.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:14 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:The explanation from a group that I found on the google news site when this was fresh seems logical, their explanation and looking at the image at a slightly different angle makes it fit a little better.

I can understand the angle giving different appearances, just think of a call in baseball. However, according to the video, it is a coordinated cover up. I would be interested to hear Jawz take on this.

I will say this, through out our entire history, our government has lied to us and deceived us countless times, dating all of the way back before we were even a country... To be honest, many of our school books are full of slanted and/or false information... We typically believe what our preferred news source tells us, when in truth we really have no clue as to what is actually going on...

I am not stating this is true as quite candidly, none of us have the true facts to swear that anything we hear on any news source is true...

Of course the purpose of the forums is to discuss things...

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:19 pm

Ya I don't doubt that our government would try to cover this up, but if it had happened that way i think more activity would have gone on and either been spotted or news crews/civilians would have been prohibited from the area.

Jawz has made a bunch of comments on this already and it does seem rather tin foil like.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:38 pm

MadDoctor wrote:$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who let you out and how did you make so many posts...er...I mean SPAM!!!!!

Back to the hole with you!!!!!!

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:40 pm

You wouldn't. It's "thanksgiving" and family junk like that.

Wait..... your chestnuts on my open fire. Now we are getting somewhere.

*looks at one post.*

Throw that little tiny weenie on the fire too...

Hi Ken!

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:46 pm

Ken wrote: To be honest, many of our school books are full of slanted and/or false information... .

Like, George Washington being the first president.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:51 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Like, George Washington being the first president.

More like he couldn't lie because he admitted to cutting down the cherry tree!

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:59 pm

MadDoctor wrote:You wouldn't. It's "thanksgiving" and family junk like that.

Wait..... your chestnuts on my open fire. Now we are getting somewhere.

*looks at one post.*

Throw that little tiny weenie on the fire too...

Hi Ken!

You've been playing in the "night soil" again, haven't you????????? You have been warned about putting that stuff in your mouth! Now, go wash yer mouth out...with soap!

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:31 pm

Yes Sir.

Miggs · Post by **Miggs** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:16 pm

Obama will straighten this out, he's has the experience.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:58 pm

Miggs wrote:Obama will straighten this out, he's has the experience.

At least he doesn't butcher the English language.

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:43 pm

Miggs wrote:Obama will straighten this out, he's has the experience.