The mind of Thomas Jefferson..
- blacklab
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The mind of Thomas Jefferson..
Obviously, he was a man ahead of his time.
I can't see anything objectionable with any of Jefferson's statements.
I would say a lot of what he said is coming true. I am afraid we in Canada
are ahead on some things and catching up on others.
HOW DID JEFFERSON KNOW?
Especially: Read the last quote from 1802.
When we get piled
upon one another in large cities, as in Europe,
we shall become as corrupt as Europe .
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 09181.html>
The democracy will cease to exist
when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 22881.html>
It is incumbent on every
generation to pay its own debts as it goes.
A principle which if acted on would save
one-half the wars of the world.
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 36389.html>
I predict future happiness for
Americans if they can prevent the government
from wasting the labors of the people under the
pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 6410..html>
My reading of history convinces me
that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www..brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff157220.html>
and you are getting more all the time.
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 5076..html>
The strongest reason for the
people to retain the right to keep and bear arms
is, as a last resort, to protect themselves
against tyranny in government.
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 0991..html>
Not sure how well we could do this in Canada.
The tree of liberty must be
refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 09180.html>
To compel a man to subsidize with
his taxes the propagation of ideas which he
disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 7246..html>
Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:
'I believe that
banking institutions are more dangerous to
our liberties than standing armies.
If the American (Canadian) people ever allow
private banks to control the issue of their
currency, first by inflation, then by
deflation, the banks and corporations that will
grow up around the banks will deprive the people
of all property - until their children
wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers
conquered.
I am not too sure about this one. In the US the Federal Reserve is not a
department of the government. It is controlled by the big banks and it lends
money money to the government at a hefty interest rate. Until this changes
I don't think the average American will ever truly improve his lot in life.
In Canada the Bank of Canada that controls the money flow is actually part
of the government.
I can't see anything objectionable with any of Jefferson's statements.
I would say a lot of what he said is coming true. I am afraid we in Canada
are ahead on some things and catching up on others.
HOW DID JEFFERSON KNOW?
Especially: Read the last quote from 1802.
When we get piled
upon one another in large cities, as in Europe,
we shall become as corrupt as Europe .
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 09181.html>
The democracy will cease to exist
when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 22881.html>
It is incumbent on every
generation to pay its own debts as it goes.
A principle which if acted on would save
one-half the wars of the world.
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 36389.html>
I predict future happiness for
Americans if they can prevent the government
from wasting the labors of the people under the
pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 6410..html>
My reading of history convinces me
that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www..brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff157220.html>
and you are getting more all the time.
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 5076..html>
The strongest reason for the
people to retain the right to keep and bear arms
is, as a last resort, to protect themselves
against tyranny in government.
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 0991..html>
Not sure how well we could do this in Canada.
The tree of liberty must be
refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 09180.html>
To compel a man to subsidize with
his taxes the propagation of ideas which he
disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 7246..html>
Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:
'I believe that
banking institutions are more dangerous to
our liberties than standing armies.
If the American (Canadian) people ever allow
private banks to control the issue of their
currency, first by inflation, then by
deflation, the banks and corporations that will
grow up around the banks will deprive the people
of all property - until their children
wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers
conquered.
I am not too sure about this one. In the US the Federal Reserve is not a
department of the government. It is controlled by the big banks and it lends
money money to the government at a hefty interest rate. Until this changes
I don't think the average American will ever truly improve his lot in life.
In Canada the Bank of Canada that controls the money flow is actually part
of the government.
- YARDofSTUF
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hey there Blacklab, the snopes nazi only discredited one of the quotes!blacklab wrote:Obviously, he was a man ahead of his time.
this is fantastic, the rest are true, true, TRUE!!!! because snopes doesn't say they're not.
FANTASTIC!
just remember kiddies, snopes is the final word on the intartubes.
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"Appeasers feed the crocodile, hoping it will eat them last." - Winston Churchill
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi
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where were you yesterday? day late brother, day late.YARDofSTUF wrote:^ Long time no see, where else you been trolling lately?
09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0
"Appeasers feed the crocodile, hoping it will eat them last." - Winston Churchill
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi
"Appeasers feed the crocodile, hoping it will eat them last." - Winston Churchill
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi
- jeremyboycool
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Here is one of my favorite Thomas Jefferson qoutes.
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong." - Thomas Jefferson
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong." - Thomas Jefferson
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Stephen Hawking
- YARDofSTUF
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http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/in ... (Quotation)Sava700 wrote:My fav quote from him...as posted above
Thomas Jefferson
yeahYARDofSTUF wrote:http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/in ... (Quotation)
- jeremyboycool
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Here are some more quotes from the great American Thomas Jefferson.
There are many more, but don't get the wrong impression, Thomas Jefferson seem to have great respect for Jesus Christ. He even rewrote the Bible, trying to cut out everything else, so that just the teaching of Christ were left. I think his beef rested more so with the Church, of his time.
This is a good one here...
Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity.
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782
But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782
Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.
-Thomas Jefferson
I concur with you strictly in your opinion of the comparative merits of atheism and demonism, and really see nothing but the latter in the being worshipped by many who think themselves Christians.
-Thomas Jefferson
I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.
-Thomas Jefferson
They [the clergy] believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. But this is all they have to fear from me: and enough, too, in their opinion.
-Thomas Jefferson
The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills.
-Thomas Jefferson
History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.
-Thomas Jefferson
Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
-Thomas Jefferson
In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
-Thomas Jefferson
If we did a good act merely from love of God and a belief that it is pleasing to Him, whence arises the morality of the Atheist? ...Their virtue, then, must have had some other foundation than the love of God.
-Thomas Jefferson
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus.
-Thomas Jefferson
My opinion is that there would never have been an infidel, if there had never been a priest. The artificial structures they have built on the purest of all moral systems, for the purpose of deriving from it pence and power, revolts those who think for themselves, and who read in that system only what is really there.
-Thomas Jefferson
There are many more, but don't get the wrong impression, Thomas Jefferson seem to have great respect for Jesus Christ. He even rewrote the Bible, trying to cut out everything else, so that just the teaching of Christ were left. I think his beef rested more so with the Church, of his time.
This is a good one here...
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State.
-Thomas Jefferson
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Stephen Hawking