A Rhode Island boy whose school banned a hat he made because the toy soldiers on it carried tiny guns was awarded a medal on Friday for his patriotic efforts.
Lt. Gen. Reginald Centracchio, the retired head of the Rhode Island National Guard, gave 8-year-old David Morales a medal called a challenge coin during an appearance on WPRO-AM's John DePetro show.
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YARDofSTUF wrote:No. They simply lack common sense.
Well think about it.. you do something someone complains, you don't do something someone complains. I think I read somewhere that teachers are catching up to dentists in the suicide rates.
Sava700 wrote:Well think about it.. you do something someone complains, you don't do something someone complains. I think I read somewhere that teachers are catching up to dentists in the suicide rates.
Teachers yes, they are damned no matter what, but their administration board, no.
So the principal (teacher, school board, or whoever) thought the guns on the toy soldiers violated the zero tolerance policy on weapons? Wow. A pencil is a more dangerous weapon than the plastic gun held by a toy soldier. Maybe they should outlaw pencils and pens and make everybody finger paint everything.
Love this quote from the article: "We can only hope that kids of your caliber will continue to defend this country." Caliber....guns....
blebs wrote:The zero tolerance policy is ridiculous in and of itself. It was written with NO common sense.
Agreed..."no common sense"....clearly a small toy soldiers solid molded plastic gun is obviously harmless, and cannot be mistaken for a real gun.
I had a couple of tie clips frim my dad...one was a Remington shotgun, the other was a competition pistol. I'm guessing the school would have confiscated those if I walked in wearing them.
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jeremyboycool wrote:Wow, that is really, really boring.
Boring as it may be, it is in fact representative of how silly and pathetic "zero tolerance policies" are. Often there will also be a zero tolerance policy in schools for drugs, so you end up with students getting suspended or expelled for bringing Tylenol or Advil to school. Which is obviously an unnecessary punishment and should never happen for those types of drugs, but they do happen, and it has a major negative effect on the school record of the child. Try to get into a good university with a suspension or expulsion for drug/weapons possession on your transcript and see what happens.
If these types of ridiculous policies are brought to light, as with the original post then maybe some change can be enacted in the future.
Boring or not, I'm glad when posts like these provide a glimpse into some of the ridiculous behavior that goes on with public officials.
Rant aside, I was glad to read that the school superintendent reversed his/her decision about the toy soldiers on the hat.
ThaDude wrote:Boring as it may be, it is in fact representative of how silly and pathetic "zero tolerance policies" are. Often there will also be a zero tolerance policy in schools for drugs, so you end up with students getting suspended or expelled for bringing Tylenol or Advil to school. Which is obviously an unnecessary punishment and should never happen for those types of drugs, but they do happen, and it has a major negative effect on the school record of the child. Try to get into a good university with a suspension or expulsion for drug/weapons possession on your transcript and see what happens.
If these types of ridiculous policies are brought to light, as with the original post then maybe some change can be enacted in the future.
Boring or not, I'm glad when posts like these provide a glimpse into some of the ridiculous behavior that goes on with public officials.
Rant aside, I was glad to read that the school superintendent reversed his/her decision about the toy soldiers on the hat.
It has nothing to do with zero tolerance policies. It's over zealousness, which is very common in the world, and certainty not news. It is also over zealousness that makes this gossip (this is gossip, not news), news worthy and is, also, what causes some to get all worked-up over a trivial event. The absurdity of the actions of the "school" is no more absurd the this being "news" nor of the reaction of the over righteous reader. What is even more absurd, is that in a weeks time, this boy and his hat will be forgotten by the head shakers and with no actions take by them to right this horrible wrong. Which will only go to show that the express concern was really superficial concern.
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Roody wrote:I suppose some might actually believe that.
There still are some people that are proud to be American, you know, hard working responsible people, then there are some people that are generous with other people's money.
Miggs wrote:There still are some people that are proud to be American, you know, hard working responsible people, then there are some people that are generous with other people's money.
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Miggs wrote:There still are some people that are proud to be American, you know, hard working responsible people, then there are some people that are generous with other people's money.
I never said otherwise. I merely disputed his particular claim that it was limited to one group of people. Disputed your claim also. Truth is you can love your country regardless of your political persuasion, race, gender, religion, sexual preference etc..
Leatherneck wrote:Apparently not much to also include respect, courtesy & that one thing they used to do....learning.
Schools are not a personal daycare. It is the job of the parent to teach the child proper behavior and life philosophies. School should only discipline as needed to keep order. Also, it is not very courteous or respectful to try and push your ideologies into a public school that others parents may not want their children to learn. Public school are for everyone, if you want a more tailored school then use a private school.
"learning."
Yes, because apparently, some of you received a poor eduction on separation of church and state and Thomas Jefferson.
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jeremyboycool wrote:Lol, that's what I was thinking. I mean, was he arguing for God in schools? Or against God in schools?
Got me thinking that if it was not for freewill; God (as commonly believed in the USA) would probably have His own zero tolerance policy on violence.
It remains odd to me that some actually think a particular group of people hold the patent on pride in one's country. There is countless ways people can make their mark on the world while also making their country as better place. Whether that's a soldier serving his country or a teacher who educates his/her students to make a positive impact on their country.
As for God I simply disagree with Miggs and co. on this one. The God of the Old Testament is nothing like the one of the New Testament. I'm not sure they agree with me though.
Miggs wrote:There still are some people that are proud to be American, you know, hard working responsible people, then there are some people that are generous with other people's money.
Yes, I agree, like these people who keep spending my hard earned tax money on this pointless war and a bloated runaway military budget.
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jeremyboycool wrote:Schools are not a personal daycare. It is the job of the parent to teach the child proper behavior and life philosophies. School should only discipline as needed to keep order. Also, it is not very courteous or respectful to try and push your ideologies into a public school that others parents may not want their children to learn. Public school are for everyone, if you want a more tailored school then use a private school.
"learning."
Yes, because apparently, some of you received a poor eduction on separation of church and state and Thomas Jefferson.
I work at a christian school. I think it's the best kind of education a kid can get. I grew up in the Church of Christ and am still a member. Even with those two things in my life I still have no idea what is intolerant about Jeremy's remark?
jeremyboycool wrote:Schools are not a personal daycare. It is the job of the parent to teach the child proper behavior and life philosophies. School should only discipline as needed to keep order. Also, it is not very courteous or respectful to try and push your ideologies into a public school that others parents may not want their children to learn. Public school are for everyone, if you want a more tailored school then use a private school.
"learning."
Yes, because apparently, some of you received a poor eduction on separation of church and state and Thomas Jefferson.
In this rare occasion I
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Roody wrote:I work at a christian school. I think it's the best kind of education a kid can get. I grew up in the Church of Christ and am still a member. Even with those two things in my life I still have no idea what is intolerant about Jeremy's remark?
What's the Church of Christ?
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Roody wrote:I work at a christian school. I think it's the best kind of education a kid can get. I grew up in the Church of Christ and am still a member. Even with those two things in my life I still have no idea what is intolerant about Jeremy's remark?
I don't care to open that can of worms. Maybe I am the only person to see it as such and if that is the case I'll leave it alone. 10 years now and it's the same ol' crap re-hashed over and over...
jeremyboycool wrote: It is the job of the parent to teach the child proper behavior and life philosophies. .
How limiting and unfortunate for the poor child to have such a handicap in life.
It's the job of everyone who is involved in a childs upbringing to teach....teach everything. Behavior, life, ways of thinking, reasoning, social interaction, logic, manners, discipline, etc etc blah blah blah. End result is a faaaaaaar more rounded product, than someone taught those things by just parent(s). No matter how great of a parent they can be, and no matter how smart they can be, there is so much more to be learned by allowing the child to absorb more from many more influences.
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Leatherneck wrote:I don't care to open that can of worms. Maybe I am the only person to see it as such and if that is the case I'll leave it alone. 10 years now and it's the same ol' crap re-hashed over and over...
No worries man. I appreciate your insight when we spoke previously.
YeOldeStonecat wrote:How limiting and unfortunate for the poor child to have such a handicap in life.
It's the job of everyone who is involved in a childs upbringing to teach....teach everything. Behavior, life, ways of thinking, reasoning, social interaction, logic, manners, discipline, etc etc blah blah blah. End result is a faaaaaaar more rounded product, than someone taught those things by just parent(s). No matter how great of a parent they can be, and no matter how smart they can be, there is so much more to be learned by allowing the child to absorb more from many more influences.
And is there some reason all this has to come to from school? If they need spiritual guidance with religion/philosophy take them to church. Also, apparently, churches are suppose to be our moral guidance; at least that is what they keep claiming to be. And, as far as I am concerned, it is the job of the parents and family to probably discipline their children. Schools are for eduction, and they might be more effective at that if they didn't have to deal with all this other crap people try to push on them. No matter how great the school is or how smart the teachers are they can't do it all. The parents and family are gonna have to do their job as well.
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