Ohio State Buckeyes Thread

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:51 pm

Gixxer wrote:some of it does sound dumb, but i think his point about the choke comment has to do with teams beating USC that should not even be in the game let alone win.

It was a dumb statement in general. Truth is outside of Texas no one outside of the Pac-10 has beaten USC since 2002. The author is an idiot and frankly it only sounds worse coming from Ohio State backers. USC could lose by 20 to OSU and they still won't have the national perception that OSU has to overcome. What this author fails to do is recognize however unfair that criticism maybe it sounds dumb when trying to dump it on someone else.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:09 pm

you know as well as i do that someone that writes an article about a team are going to polish it up if they are from there regardless where they are from. does it make them sound dumb, sometimes, sometimes not.

what people fail to recognize/consider about OSU are the losses we are talking about.

#1 florida - natl champs
#1 lsu - natl champs (this was an OSU rebuilding year)
#1 USC - (eventual rose bowl champs)
#3 penn state - lost to the above in the rose bowl
#3 texas (who should have played in the natl champ game) osu beat themselves in this game

i dont know about you, but this, to me, does not constitute the label "overrated". it means they need to evolve to get over whatever hump it is to split wins and looses in these big games. NOBODY wins all the big ones.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:17 pm

holy ****! here is what happened to tyler.

[LEFT]On behalf of the Moeller family, I would like to express our deepest gratitude for the outpouring of concern, well wishes and prayers that Tyler and our family have received over the past few weeks. I also would like to share a summary of the events. [/LEFT]
We were on a family vacation in Florida, celebrating his grandparents' 50th wedding anniversary following the end of the OSU summer quarter. On the first evening of vacation, Tyler was with several family members, including his uncle at a popular restaurant/bar; it was there that Tyler was assaulted. He never saw it coming and did nothing to provoke it, which is substantiated by neutral parties. The subject was immediately arrested and the case is currently in the hands of the State Attorney's Office.
Tyler received immediate medical attention for a head injury suffered as the result of the assault, was admitted in to the emergency room and spent several days in a Florida ICU unit. We're very appreciative of the care that we received there.
Once back in Columbus, Tyler followed up with additional medical treatment which resulted in a decision last Friday to admit Tyler to University Hospital for surgery that was performed early Saturday morning. The surgery was very successful and Tyler was released on Monday. He is now at home recuperating and hopes to return to Columbus shortly.
We are so thankful for the amazing care that we have received from the our Buckeye family, including the entire Ohio State football office, trainers and coaching staff, OSU doctors, neurosurgeon Dr. Chiocca, and everyone at the University Medical Center.
We are most happy to report that Tyler is doing extremely well and chomping at the bit to get going again. We fully expect him to be on the field again - we are just not sure of the time frame. Thank you all! GO BUCKS!!
Amy Moeller, Tyler's mom

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:50 pm

Gixxer wrote:you know as well as i do that someone that writes an article about a team are going to polish it up if they are from there regardless where they are from. does it make them sound dumb, sometimes, sometimes not.

what people fail to recognize/consider about OSU are the losses we are talking about.

#1 florida - natl champs
#1 lsu - natl champs (this was an OSU rebuilding year)
#1 USC - (eventual rose bowl champs)
#3 penn state - lost to the above in the rose bowl
#3 texas (who should have played in the natl champ game) osu beat themselves in this game

i dont know about you, but this, to me, does not constitute the label "overrated". it means they need to evolve to get over whatever hump it is to split wins and looses in these big games. NOBODY wins all the big ones.

I don't think OSU is overrated. What I am saying is this author is attempting to dump a claim on USC that is far from accurate and he's doing so in an attempt to take the heat off of OSU. It's a disingenious article written by a fanboy.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:04 pm

Small close to returning for Buckeyes

COLUMBUS - Ohio State coach Jim Tressel said yesterday evening that senior wide receiver Ray Small, who has been missing from preseason training camp this week while he addresses academic issues, could rejoin the team as early as today. "He may. We've got to get some things done [first]," Tressel said about Small's situation as the Buckeyes assembled in game-day dress inside Ohio Stadium for picture day. Small was in the top 10 in the country in punt return average last season and had a 69-yard return for a touchdown in the win over Ohio. He has 46 career receptions as a Buckeye but has been in and out of Tressel's doghouse several times. The Cleveland native was stripped of his original number at one point and then suspended last November for violating team rules. Tressel said if Small returns to the team today, he would not be involved in practice and scrimmaging until he completed some "activity," which likely meant running or other solo physical work. Also yesterday, the family of injured Ohio State junior linebacker Tyler Moeller released a statement clarifying some of the details of the alleged assault that resulted in a serious head injury, ending Moeller's season. He was expected to start for the Buckeyes this year, after spending the last two seasons as a backup and playing special teams. In the statement, Moeller's mother, Amy, said the family was vacationing in Florida last month, celebrating Moeller's grandparents' 50th anniversary. On their first night in Florida, Moeller and several family members were in a restaurant/bar, and Moeller was assaulted."He never saw it coming and did nothing to provoke it, which is substantiated by neutral parties," Amy Moeller said in the statement. "The subject was immediately arrested, and the case is currently in the hands of the state's attorney's office."
The Ohio State junior spent three days in an intensive care unit in a Florida hospital before returning to Columbus, where he underwent surgery last weekend at Ohio State Medical Center to relieve pressure on his brain. Moeller, who was on hand yesterday for the Buckeyes' team photo, has been recovering at home in Cincinnati this week. "Tyler is doing extremely well and chomping at the bit to get going again," his mother said. "We fully expect him to be on the field again - we are just not sure of the time frame."

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:29 pm

jeezus H

Buckeyes' Boren to miss several weeks

Ohio State offensive lineman Justin Boren sustained a sprained knee during practice Friday and will miss several weeks, a source told ESPN affiliate Web site Bucknuts.com.
Boren, projected to be Ohio State's starting left guard, is expected to miss no more than three weeks with a sprained MCL, the source said. Ohio State was unable to confirm the injury.
Boren made national headlines when he transferred to Ohio State from archrival Michigan and criticized Wolverines coach Rich Rodriguez. He earned honorable mention All-Big Ten honors with Michigan in 2007 and made a strong impression at Ohio State during spring practice.
Junior Connor Smith likely will slide into Boren's spot during his absence.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:31 pm

Roody wrote:I don't think OSU is overrated. What I am saying is this author is attempting to dump a claim on USC that is far from accurate and he's doing so in an attempt to take the heat off of OSU. It's a disingenious article written by a fanboy.

i know you were not saying that, i was just making a statement leading from the article from the perception of most everybody toward osu

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:13 pm

Small, Rose return

An Ohio State spokesperson confirmed that receiver/returner Ray Small and defensive end Robert Rose, both seniors, have rejoined the team. Neither was allowed to practice the first several days of camp because of academic issues.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:47 am

Saw something yesterday that caught my attention. Although Pryor is currently the fastest QB in the Big 10 to start he will lose that distinction when/if Denard Robinson of Michigan becomes the QB. Watched him on TV the other day run a 4.3 even with his laces untied and a sub 4.3 with them tied. That dude is freakish with his speed. Of course at this point he's not nearly the QB all around as Pryor.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:11 am

This one deserves extra emphasis.

Players say extra work necessary

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Ohio State players say if their rivals at Michigan are putting in extra time, they're not alone.

So are the Buckeyes. And so is any team, they say, that wants to be any good.

Michigan's coaching staff has been accused by a handful of current and former players -- all speaking anonymously -- of pushing too hard and forcing them to put in too many hours.

Join the club, the Buckeyes said.

Ohio State captains Kurt Coleman and Doug Worthington and head coach Jim Tressel all said Tuesday that it takes extra work to compete these days in major college football -- and the players who want to be great understand that.

The NCAA may have a 20-hour per week cap, but the players don't live by that.

"I think Michigan is probably abiding by the rules," said Coleman, a starting safety. "But, you know, to be great you have to put in more than 20 hours. That's just the minimum. In any great program, each player is putting in more than what they're required to. And it's all on their own. That's what takes a program to the next level, when guys are going above and beyond the call of duty."

Worthington said that no matter what the coaches say -- or the NCAA -- players who want to get better will become workaholics. He said it was up to the upperclassmen to make sure that the younger players kept their noses to the grindstone.

"It's hard to be a good football team giving 20 hours, but you know the rules and that's why leaders and captains and seniors have to make sure we keep guys after and we watch more film," the starting defensive lineman said. "Do it on our time, but make sure we know it's nothing mandatory. But if you want to be good, it takes more than just 20 hours."

Tressel all but said it's useless to try to restrain players from working at a sport.

"What makes it difficult is how good these kids want to be," he said. "Sometimes you have to chain the doors of the Woody Hayes [football] center, you know, to get them out of there. These kids want to be good. They want to train. They want to get their buddies in there and throw the ball around, those kinds of things."

Tressel went to great lengths to say that he and his staff do not prescribe extra workouts for players beyond what they can meet during their allotted 20 hours per week during the season. But that doesn't mean Ohio State's players are only working 20 hours per week: Tressel said it's foolish to try to rein in young, committed and ambitious athletes.

"It'd be like telling our med students, 'We're going to close the library,'" he said. "You've got to let them train. There is a fine line, but the safeguards we have are we have set schedules and forms that we fill out, just like everyone."

Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez said Monday that the Wolverines follow the NCAA rules on required work, but his comments essentially mirrored Tressel's: Players were so eager to work well beyond the NCAA caps that they often called Michigan's coaches to open up the weight room.

Rodriguez installed a rigorous conditioning regimen at Michigan when he was hired after the 2007 season. While some players struggled to adapt, most credited it with improving their athleticism and several former Wolverines now in the NFL praised the program after working out at the school in the offseason.

Tressel said each time he has taken a head coaching job -- in 1986 at Youngstown State and again in 2001 at Ohio State -- players came up to him to tell him that under the prior regime the team had lost its discipline and toughness and needed to work harder.

"So I think deep down kids want to work hard," he said. "I haven't had anyone come in and say, 'You know what, Coach? We spent too much time at it and that's why we didn't do as well as we wanted to do.'"

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4438648

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:53 am

i agree with what tressel said and i think rodriguez is just dealing with some weak minded and weaker players who are whining.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:01 pm

Gixxer wrote:i agree with what tressel said and i think rodriguez is just dealing with some weak minded and weaker players who are whining.

A statement I agree with.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:20 am

Small unlikely to play in Buckeyes' opener

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- Ray Small, a kick returner and wide receiver for No. 6 Ohio State, will probably not play in the Buckeyes' season opener on Saturday against Navy.
Small, a senior who has frequently been in coach Jim Tressel's doghouse, was sick and in bed on Friday night. Ohio State spokesperson Shelly Poe sent a text message to The Associated Press to say Small was not likely to play against the Midshipmen.
There had been rampant speculation on the Internet that Small had left the team or had been suspended. Poe added that the Internet rumors were exaggerated and that he was just sick.
Small, the team's top punt returner the past two years, was suspended in 2008 by Tressel for "repeated violation of team rules." Small's father then blasted Tressel, saying he was intentionally trying to ruin his son's career.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/f ... z0QCreoACP

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:19 pm

Heading into the 4th quarter the Bucks are only beating Navy by 6 points. 20-14 currently. Talk about making me ready for next week.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:27 pm

Roody wrote:Heading into the 4th quarter the Bucks are only beating Navy by 6 points. 20-14 currently. Talk about making me ready for next week.

tp looks impressive

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:29 pm

it does not look as though osu is ready for usc

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:29 pm

29 - 14

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:44 pm

Navy with an 85 yard TD pass. Don't see that much.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:49 pm

Roody wrote:Navy with an 85 yard TD pass. Don't see that much.

misplay by the safety. nobody rushed so he should have stayed back and helped. regardless, i thihnk a lot of the crap they go through has been coaching, not so much as tressel as o and d coordinator. i think the o coach has to go.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:50 pm

i cannot fing believe what i am watching.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:52 pm

Gixxer wrote:i cannot fing believe what i am watching.

The defense looks pretty questionable right now. I am honestly surprised by this.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:52 pm

TD Navy

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:53 pm

I tell you what if this goes OT I give Navy the advantage. They got the kind of offense that I think can win this.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:54 pm

i will tell you what i mean by coaching. the backup qb should not have been in the game in the third offensive series. they should have kicked a fg on 4th and 2. this should still be a 10 pt game.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:55 pm

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:56 pm

Navy gave that one away. Should have ran the ball.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:58 pm

Go ahead and breathe now Gixxer.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:58 pm

98 yd two pt conversion return.

kurt coleman has played extremely impressive today.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:04 pm

you know, i gotta hope because of the unorthodox navy play is the reason they give osu fits. they said on osu would have an easier time practicing for usc due to the difference in o schemes.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:10 pm

Gixxer wrote:you know, i gotta hope because of the unorthodox navy play is the reason they give osu fits. they said on osu would have an easier time practicing for usc due to the difference in o schemes.

Navy is definitely a different type of team. That said this should cause some serious concern for Ohio State.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:17 pm

Ohio State's Pryor wears 'Vick' tribute in eyeblack

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor wore his support for Michael Vick on his face.

During No. 6 Ohio State's narrow 31-27 victory over Navy on Saturday, Pryor had the word "Vick" on the eyeblack sticker under his left eye. Under his right eye was "Mika" which he said referred to his sister.
Vick served 18 months in federal prison for his involvement in a dogfighting ring before signing with the Philadelphia Eagles last month.

"I always looked up to Mike Vick and I always will, because I still think he is one of the best quarterbacks," Pryor said. "I love Mike Vick."

Vick admitted bankrolling a dogfighting operation on his property in Virginia. He was suspended indefinitely by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in August 2007.

"I know what happened with him and, I mean, I don't want to talk much," Pryor said. "I'm just going to be very short and sweet with it but I just feel he made his mistake and I think he just needs more support."

Vick has always been known as a great open-field runner who has yet to establish himself as an accurate passer. Pryor, a sophomore who was the top quarterback recruit in the nation two years ago, is also praised as a runner but has faced similar questions about his passing ability.

Pryor threw a late interception that resulted in a Navy touchdown with 2:23 remaining that pulled the Midshipmen to 29-27. Navy went for the tying two-point conversion, but Ohio State linebacker Brian Rolle intercepted and returned the pass 99 yards for two points. The Buckeyes then recovered an onside kick.

A noted scrambler on the field, Vick was a three-time Pro Bowl pick during six seasons with the Atlanta Falcons.

Pryor, who completed 14 of 21 passes for 174 yards and a touchdown against Navy, didn't think Vick was getting a fair shot.

"Not everybody is the perfect person in the world," Pryor said of Vick. "Everyone does - kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me. I just feel that people need to give him a chance."

Asked if he had seen the tribute to Vick on the 6-foot-6 Pryor's face, Ohio State coach Jim Tressel said he hadn't noticed it.

"I'm not tall enough to see his eyebrows," Tressel said. "I don't know what he had."

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/1003 ... n-eyeblack

mountainman · Post by **mountainman** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:50 am

Go Bucks!!

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:54 pm

Congrats mountainman and Gixxer.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:05 pm

I didn't realize that Mich's QB sucked that bad...

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:31 pm

Sava700 wrote:I didn't realize that Mich's QB sucked that bad...

Unless you have watched a bunch of Michigan's games this year you have no idea what you are talking about and since you made this remark it's clear you haven't. Yes, Forcier was terrible today, but by and large he has had a very successful year.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:34 pm

mountainman wrote:Go Bucks!!

Michigan just couldn't hang with you guys today. There was some excuses for Michigan (Both #1 and #2 RB's were out of the game) and you got a freshmen qb who is feeling like he has to do it all. It really can screw with a guy which directly addresses Sava's ridiculous comment. Michigan's QB's have got a ton of talent and have played very well most of the time, but most of the time Michigan's offense feels forced to score every series because if they don't it's likely they lose the game.

All that said, the better team won the game and there is no doubt of that.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:21 pm

Roody wrote:Unless you have watched a bunch of Michigan's games this year you have no idea what you are talking about and since you made this remark it's clear you haven't. Yes, Forcier was terrible today, but by and large he has had a very successful year.

I watched a few other games and this one was the icing on the cake no matter what you think I have on my mind.... the guy is horrible and played a really crappy game...the game that meant the most to the team.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:55 pm

Sava700 wrote:I watched a few other games and this one was the icing on the cake no matter what you think I have on my mind.... the guy is horrible and played a really crappy game...the game that meant the most to the team.

Yes he played a lousy game, but no he isn't a horrible QB. In fact he is a very solid freshmen QB. Anyone who thinks otherwise when seeing him play all year has shown him to be a good solid QB doesn't know what they are talking about.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:11 pm

Roody wrote:Yes he played a lousy game, but no he isn't a horrible QB. In fact he is a very solid freshmen QB. Anyone who thinks otherwise when seeing him play all year has shown him to be a good solid QB doesn't know what they are talking about.

I guess I disagree but since your always right you will argue that too most likely..

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:46 pm

Sava700 wrote:I guess I disagree but since your always right you will argue that too most likely..

I'm not always right, but I appreciate the boost of confidence.

It comes down to one simple thing Sava. It's not about me being right. It's about his production and he has been very productive at time. I don't have a problem with your statements in general if they are surrounded in fact, but they aren't. Simple truth is Forcier has excelled at times this year. Without question he has taken a bit of step back, but anyone who followed sports saw numerous articles this year of which I posted my share hailing the kid as a great up and comer.

With that in mind he's a good QB. Certainly not a terrible one although you are correct he had a terrible day today and he's not a great one yet either. Like any freshmen QB it takes time and he has proven to have had a very productive season.

As for your remarks about me always arguing with you that's not the case at all so do us a favor and quit trying to play the victim routine. I crack down on you as do others when you make some absurd remarks that aren't based in fact, but I also agree with you when I think your remarks are accurate.