Senate rejects law on carrying concealed weapons

[Roody]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Senate narrowly rejected a measure to allow people to carry concealed weapons from state to state Wednesday.

The vote was 58 to 39. The amendment needed 60 votes to pass.

The measure, which split Democrats, would have required each of the 48 states that allow concealed firearms to honor permits issued in other states.

Supporters of the measure argued it would help deter criminals; opponents claimed it would endanger innocent people by effectively forcing most of the country to conform to regulations in states with the loosest gun ownership standards.

Sen. John Barrasso, a Wyoming Republican who is a co-sponsor of the amendment, argued Wednesday that gun licenses should apply across state lines, like driver's licenses.

"People travel," he said on CNN's "American Morning."

"We have truck drivers on our roads, people traveling for vacation in their vehicles, and if you have a license... you should be able to use that license in other states. It should apply like a driver's license," he said.

He argued that concealed weapons deter crime.

But Republican Michael Bloomberg, the mayor of New York City and an opponent of the law, said the proposed amendment would trample on states' rights.

"Wyoming shouldn't be subject to New York state laws, and we're going in that direction," he said. "What's right for the people of Wyoming isn't necessarily right for the people of New York and vice versa."

Bloomberg insisted that guns do not make people safer.

"There's no evidence that if you have a gun, you're safer. Quite the contrary. If you have a gun at home, [you are] something like 20 times more likely to have somebody in your house killed," he said on "American Morning."

"We have to protect our policemen, protect our citizens. We can't have all these guns, and it's reasonable to have each state make their own laws," he said.

The issue has blurred Capitol Hill's usual partisan lines. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, is one of several Southern and Western Democrats who supported the measure. Others Democrats opposed it.

The full Senate vote came in the form of an amendment to a larger defense appropriations bill.

For gun control advocates, the fight over the proposal was the latest in a series of unexpected setbacks since the start of the Obama administration.

In May, President Obama signed a credit card bill that included a provision allowing people to carry guns in national parks.

Another bill that would have given the District of Columbia's representative in Congress full voting rights stalled earlier in the year after Senate Republicans attached a provision that would have eased tight gun controls in the district.

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[tarpoon75]

Slack.

Although, I can see how cities like D.C. and NYC would not want this. But these are registered citizens who are not likely to turn to criminal offenses.

I'd be curious to see how many Senators/Congressmen carry in the face of "state rights" who don't honor CCWs.

[blebs]

I still think it should have passed. These people are not ordinary, everyday, folks. They've been fingerprinted, background checked, trained and certified to conceal carry. Why shouldn't they be allowed to conceal carry in states that allow it?

[YARDofSTUF]

I still think it should have passed. These people are not ordinary, everyday, folks. They've been fingerprinted, background checked, trained and certified to conceal carry. Why shouldn't they be allowed to conceal carry in states that allow it?

I agree, even though I disagree with both sides points on why it should/shouldn't be allowed. LOL

[Sava700]

I still think it should have passed. These people are not ordinary, everyday, folks. They've been fingerprinted, background checked, trained and certified to conceal carry. Why shouldn't they be allowed to conceal carry in states that allow it?

I agree with this 100%.... it will come up again and pass most likely next time. But doesn't matter I have mine here in Virginia and I can already take my gun with me to many states surrounding me as they allow per a thing they locked in with each other.

[MadDoctor]

These people are not ordinary, everyday, folks.

*then there is me*

They've been fingerprinted, background checked, trained and certified to conceal carry. Why shouldn't they be allowed to conceal carry in states that allow it?

*...and yet I carry a gun. Go figure*

[YeOldeStonecat]

*then there is me*



*...and yet I carry a gun. Go figure*

That lil' thang in yer pants? Peh...Derringer.

[MadDoctor]

That lil' thang in yer pants? Peh...Derringer.

Last night you were saying it was a cannon.

[JawZ]

Last night you were saying it was a cannon.

Interesting....

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[MadDoctor]

Interesting....

[Sava700]

Interesting....

[YeOldeStonecat]

Last night you were saying it was a cannon.

From a 2" toy soldiers set