Windows update broke my new laptop

triniwasp · Post by **triniwasp** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:51 am

Bought a new laptop today, worked great until Windows Update broke the scroll feature on my touchpad. 2 hours of tech support only to find out I had to do a complete recovery. Once restored I was instructed to disable the Update service, which I have done. I guess I'll be doing updates via Windows Download and HP updater.

One interesting thing, the tech guy I was talking to said that in a few months Vista will be pulled from the market and Vista users will get free upgrades to Windows 7. I had heard about some people possibly getting free up grades but I didn't think that would start until next year.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:24 am

I hold off on input device drivers (such as touchpad) on laptops, I've seen the Windows drivers from Microsoft updates mess things up....instead getting those from the manufacturers website.

TonyT · Post by **TonyT** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:41 am

And there's nothing officially in writing from MS re a free upgrade to Windows 7 for Vista users either. Vista won't be pulled from the market either.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:01 am

Yeah watch those touch pad drivers from MS..they have known issues as I've said on one thread with instructions on how to fix a certain issue.

TonyT wrote:And there's nothing officially in writing from MS re a free upgrade to Windows 7 for Vista users either. Vista won't be pulled from the market either.

From what I've been reading even if its not official they will have a upgrade program and most likely around the time mentioned of June/July time tables.

And it would be in their best interest for computer builders to not continue to install Vista once Win7 is released.. Vista is trash compared to even the beta of Win7 IMO and the opinion of many many others that have tested it.

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:34 am

Sava700 wrote:Vista is trash compared to even the beta of Win7 IMO and the opinion of many many others that have tested it.

You DO realize that Windows 7 is pretty much Vista, right?

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:42 am

Burke wrote:You DO realize that Windows 7 is pretty much Vista, right?

Yes Burke..and the sun is larger than the moon.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:16 am

Vista was the introduction of a lot of new features, and can be a bit slower than XP. Windows 7 is a more fine tuned version of these features and has a couple new ones, as well as being on par with XP speeds.

In the Sava Realm this translates to Vista is trash and Windows 7 is godly.

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:47 am

TonyT wrote:And there's nothing officially in writing from MS re a free upgrade to Windows 7 for Vista users either. Vista won't be pulled from the market either.

I sure wouldn't count on anything free from MS. Vista is definately here to stay.

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:48 am

The lesson is never let Windows install drivers for you, no matter how much you don't want to mess with things.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:58 am

Burke wrote:You DO realize that Windows 7 is pretty much Vista, right?

Much like Windows 98 (which was almost OK)..and Windows 98SE...which was pretty good...we have Vista, and Vista SE..oops..I mean...Windows 7.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:10 am

One of the most annoying flaws I found with Vista was no full repair option like XP had..there are times when its really needed otherwise you end up having to reload the whole thing from scratch. I'm not sure if they added that back in with Win7 or not.

fastchevy · Post by **fastchevy** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:21 pm

Vista = Windows ME

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:33 pm

I use Vista at work and at home, both Quad Cores and it rocks.

As for having to do a complete recovery. Why not boot off the DVD and run a repair? Vista's repair options are feature rich and should've allowed you to go back to before that driver/hotfix update.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:56 pm

You can control what Win Update installs. You don't have to install the drivers it suggests.

triniwasp · Post by **triniwasp** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:33 am

blebs wrote:I sure wouldn't count on anything free from MS. Vista is definately here to stay.

Who knows, just quoting the tech guy, you have to wonder though.

Brent wrote:You can control what Win Update installs. You don't have to install the drivers it suggests.

I know, it is just that I have never had a problem with Windows update previously that except for a sound driver, and that was easily remedied by uninstalling the driver and reinstalling the old one. That didn't work in this case. Neither did restoring the machine to it's initial boot.

JBrazen wrote:I use Vista at work and at home, both Quad Cores and it rocks.

As for having to do a complete recovery. Why not boot off the DVD and run a repair? Vista's repair options are feature rich and should've allowed you to go back to before that driver/hotfix update.

Only have a recovery partition, and now recovery disks. System restore didn't work. Is there another method you had in mind? For the record, I do like Vista I just hope I can get a free or reduced Win 7 upgrade or Vista is updated to put its performance on par with Win 7.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:01 pm

triniwasp wrote:Who knows, just quoting the tech guy, you have to wonder though.

I know, it is just that I have never had a problem with Windows update previously that except for a sound driver, and that was easily remedied by uninstalling the driver and reinstalling the old one. That didn't work in this case. Neither did restoring the machine to it's initial boot.

Only have a recovery partition, and now recovery disks. System restore didn't work. Is there another method you had in mind? For the record, I do like Vista I just hope I can get a free or reduced Win 7 upgrade or Vista is updated to put its performance on par with Win 7.

Vista screws the pouch on my daughters laptop everytime she has it set to auto. Just rollback the drivers, works everytime.

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:11 pm

Win 7....wow, that was fast I expected the Vista name to hang around awhile longer.

It's going to be too expensive anyways, I'll just stick with XP.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:15 pm

jeremyboycool wrote:Win 7....wow, that was fast I expected the Vista name to hang around awhile longer.

XP - 2001

Vista - 2006

Windows 7 - 2009/2010

Not that fast and about where MS said they planned to release the next one.

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:20 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:XP - 2001

Vista - 2006

Windows 7 - 2009/2010

Not that fast and about where MS said they planned to release the next one.

Seemed fast to me. I mean from your little chart the XP name hung around for 5 some years. That makes the one year for the Vista name comparatively short.

Shinobi · Post by **Shinobi** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:53 pm

I'll keep that touchpad driver in mind.. I just got a new laptop myself.

triniwasp · Post by **triniwasp** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:06 am

Sid wrote:Vista screws the pouch on my daughters laptop everytime she has it set to auto. Just rollback the drivers, works everytime.

That's the funny thing, that didin't work. Doesn't matter anyway, bought this today:http://www.buy.com/prod/asus-l50vn-a1-n ... caid=17654

Same price, and better for me: Smaller and lighter than the 17" I currently have, better processor, faster FSB, faster RAM, and twice the video memory. The current laptop has 500GB drive and a Blu-Ray ROM, but I have a PS3 so that isn't an issue for me.