Ever fall asleep while driving?

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:45 am

SeedOfChaos wrote:Sava, does every drop of fructose corn syrup worldwide have mercury in it? Or was it maybe a single production batch that was spoiled? Got a link so we can read up?

See, smoking any single cigarette or cigar for that matter makes you absorb carcinogens. There's not a single cigarette or cigar that you could smoke avoiding carcinogens.

That in itself makes it an apples and peaches comparison. You can't compare a production batch gone wrong with an inherent property of a product.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01831.html

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/ ... RSS_PUBLIC

Jan. 27, 2009 -- Some foods and drinks rich in high-fructose corn syrup may contain detectable levels of mercury, a new report shows.

The report, published on the web site of the Minneapolis-based nonprofit Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy (IATP), shows detectable levels of mercury in 17 out of 55 tested products rich in high-fructose corn syrup.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:52 am

Sava700 wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01831.html

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/ ... RSS_PUBLIC

Big difference in that and what I showed you with Cigars.

Jan. 27, 2009 -- Some foods and drinks rich in high-fructose corn syrup may contain detectable levels of mercury, a new report shows.

The report, published on the web site of the Minneapolis-based nonprofit Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy (IATP), shows detectable levels of mercury in 17 out of 55 tested products rich in high-fructose corn syrup.

But the researchers aren't telling people to avoid those products or other items containing high-fructose corn syrup, and they aren't sure what form of mercury those products contained.

The Corn Refiners Association stands by high-fructose corn syrup, calling it "safe."

Wallinga and colleagues caution that their list was "just a snapshot in time; we only tested one sample of each product. That clearly is not sufficient grounds to give definitive advice to consumers."

Your own link even states that they aren't telling people to avoid them and nothing in it states it's that way in all of them. Cigars however are a different matter.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:56 am

Roody wrote:Big difference in that and what I showed you with Cigars.

Your own link even states that they aren't telling people to avoid them and nothing in it states it's that way in all of them. Cigars however are a different matter.

never said they were telling them to avoid drinks and stuff... I also mentioned radios and cell phones but you don't see me saying to avoid those either? Talking on a phone or listening to a radio is also a good way to stay awake while driving.... but yes they have been known to call some form of cancer much like anything does today. So what.. big deal...still good choices to help stay awake much like smoking a cigar regardless of what you think is bad or not.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:08 pm

Will cigars keep you awake? Sure they can do that. Is it proven they are bad for you and you can get cancer even if you don't inhale. Absolutely. If you want to risk the potential of dying a slow painful death due to cancer you go right ahead Sava. I would think most people would prefer to avoid any chance of it.

SeedOfChaos · Post by **SeedOfChaos** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:15 pm

Thanks for the links, very interesting read and since it can be avoided, the global industry should have to avoid it. However, the second article also states...

"I would imagine that a good majority of the mercury that is detected would have been in the form of elemental mercury," not methylmercury, toxicologist Carl Winter, PhD, tells WebMD. Winter, who directs the FoodSafe Program at the University of California, Davis, says that methylmercury is "by far the most toxic form of mercury" because methylmercury is better absorbed by the body than other forms of mercury.

"We have a principle in toxicology, which is the dose makes the poison," says Winter. "It's the amount of a chemical, not its presence or absence, that determines the potential for harm, and frankly, I don't see based on their findings that they've made much of a case that this is something that consumers need to worry about."

I fail to see how this compares to the inherent carcinogens of tobacco smoke. For the record, I'm a smoker, but I am aware of what I am doing and don't recommend it to others.

Oh, and you may want to read up on carcinogens, as the toxicology principle of dose doesn't quite apply to them. So no, an occasional cigar is not that much better either.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:52 pm

Sava I want to apologize to you for how I phrased a few things in this thread. It was out of line for me to do that.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:18 pm

Roody wrote:Sava I want to apologize to you for how I phrased a few things in this thread. It was out of line for me to do that.

I do'nt take things negative from ya much..I enjoy a good discussion like this one. I was even laughing at a few replies!

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:21 pm

Sava700 wrote: I do'nt take things negative from ya much..I enjoy a good discussion like this one. I was even laughing at a few replies!

Well glad to hear there was no hard feelings.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:28 pm

Debbie wrote:If you are sleeping through the night, when was the last time you had a complete physical with bloodwork?

Been a while. My doctor is an idiot, time to find some one else.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:29 pm

Chris wrote:do you snore when you sleep?
If so you may have some form of sleep apnea, one side affect is falling asleep at the wheel, You should discuss it with your doc.

Not that I am aware of.

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm

CableDude wrote:Been noticing that I start to dose while driving in the morning lately.

Do you eat breakfast?

I read that if you skip breakfast then your body slows down to help reserve energy (since you have already gone the whole night without any food) as a survival thing. That would make you tired. It's not that the food is needed. The body just needs a reminder that there is food available and no need to switch to a power save mode.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:05 pm

jeremyboycool wrote:Do you eat breakfast?

ub3r_n00b · Post by **ub3r_n00b** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:38 pm

Yeah, when i used to work graveyard at the mill I used to doze off while driving after the shift. Eventually your body gets used to it and you wont fall asleep, i used to keep the music going and open the windows.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:09 am

CableDude wrote:Ever fall asleep while driving?:

knightmare · Post by **knightmare** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:30 am

maybe your monitor at work is tiring your eyes out?

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:06 am

Many Many Many times. I use to do field service in my own business and to pull over and sleep was wasting time. My wife use to say I got My best sleep while driving. Fortunately never had a problem though. But I think those rumble strips on the sides of the roads are a great idea

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:45 pm

knightmare wrote:maybe your monitor at work is tiring your eyes out?

I think the vehicle is/was getting too warm in the cab. No problems today.

koldchillah · Post by **koldchillah** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:33 am

I fell asleep at the wheel once and only once.

It was my senior year of high school and I was cramming for final exams and basically didn't go to sleep. I pulled an all-nighter, thinking that I could just leave school as soon as the exam was over and come home to sleep. Bad move.

I was on the block over from my house, not 5 minutes into the drive, going about 45mph and I dozed off so quickly I just remember a really loud noise. I woke up just in time to yank the car back onto the road before going head-first into a neighbor's culvert driveway. I took the mailbox out completely, leaving some nasty dents in my hood.

I was shaken up so bad I almost hyper-ventilated. I was paranoid about whether or not someone in another car saw me and/or if they would call the police on me. I got to school 40 minutes later and the entire time I was taking my exam my hands were shaking like a leaf.

When I got home and confessed the incident to my father, he took me down to Home Depot and made me buy the neighbor a $75 gift card. I then taped it to the neighbor's front gate with an anonymous note of apology so that they would'nt try to sue us.

I'll never fall asleep at the wheel ever again.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:53 am

What gets me is on road trips I get groggy and open the window, play music...no problem.

When I finally try to crash in a motel or rest stop, my mind sees the highway and jerks me awake to make sure I'm not still driving.

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:42 am

I have felt myself about to doze off so I pulled over and got comfy, leaned the seat back, thought of Pamela Anderson....

and then I was back to being wide awake.

Very dangerous and a very frightening feeling knowing that your body needs rest and will do anything to get it.

Take rest breaks every 45mins, don't keep the vehicle too warm, get rest, etc.

Don't listen to Frank about the cigars....they give you lip, tongue, cheek, gum, throat, and soft pallet cancers. Most of the red necks in Franks neck of the woods don't go to the doctor...that's why they have no cancer....and have perfect teeth.

OSULLY · Post by **OSULLY** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:47 pm

Woke up in the wrong lane once,

I thanked God I didn't kill any one and then developed the habit of pulling over for a cat nap. I still have trouble at sunrise and sunset so I just plan on pulling over for a bit at those times when doing a long drive.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:54 pm

koldchillah wrote: When I got home and confessed the incident to my father, he took me down to Home Depot and made me buy the neighbor a $75 gift card. I then taped it to the neighbor's front gate with an anonymous note of apology so that they would'nt try to sue us.

Another instance of your dad being cool!