CNN, report on some important news, would ya?

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:06 am

I'm no McCain-Palin defender, but Every time Tina Fey does Palin on SNL, CNN runs it as a front-page news story. And it's never some kind of tie-in to another story, or a creative analysis, just "Tina Fey reprises role as Palin on SNL".

Oooookay.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:07 am

I think many are picking on her cause she failed on a few interviews and its not right. A interview doesn't show how one can lead no matter how you look at it not to mention Katie was harder on her than any others that I've seen her interview in the past.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:47 am

Sava700 wrote:I think many are picking on her cause she failed on a few interviews and its not right. A interview doesn't show how one can lead no matter how you look at it not to mention Katie was harder on her than any others that I've seen her interview in the past.

She's failed on the only interviews she's given....and this is a person who is next in line to be prez....she better get some tough questions but the topic is CNN's lack of coverage of real news....SNL or anything Brittney related is not news and should therefore be relegated to the likes of the Enquirer or People or some other celebrity worship fish-wrap.

CNN has been out of the news biz for a while now. They're in the ratings business.

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:13 pm

Sava700 wrote:I think many are picking on her cause she failed on a few interviews and its not right. A interview doesn't show how one can lead no matter how you look at it not to mention Katie was harder on her than any others that I've seen her interview in the past.

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:22 pm

CNN has Nancy Grace for a show host. That in and of itself is enough to know that they have no interest in actual news...

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:53 pm

Indy wrote:CNN has Nancy Grace for a show host. That in and of itself is enough to know that they have no interest in actual news...

So true!

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:00 pm

I have little interest in anything McCain/Palin have left to offer. I have heard some twisted things in my life in the world of politics, but Palin's actions yesterday crossed the line severely. I think McCain and Palin are basically *****s of the political world.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:30 pm

Sava700 wrote:I think many are picking on her cause she failed on a few interviews and its not right. A interview doesn't show how one can lead no matter how you look at it not to mention Katie was harder on her than any others that I've seen her interview in the past.

What are they supposed to do? Ask if she got S's in Kindergarten?

She's SUPPOSED to get ask hard questions.

All she's doing right now is misdirections when she doesn't have an answer.

Do you really want a leader who know's little about the affairs of the country?

Back to the original content. I happen to agree with Burke. Although Tina Fey is great in her impersonations, it's not headline news.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:13 pm

downhill wrote:
All she's doing right now is misdirections when she doesn't have an answer.

Yeah..Obama certainly never does any of those, or flippity flops.

Also..lessee....either the VP with a little less experience...or the big P position itself with even less? Hah!

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:20 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Yeah..Obama certainly never does any of those, or flippity flops.

Also..lessee....either the VP with a little less experience...or the big P position itself with even less? Hah!

Did you just suggest that Gov Palin has more experience than Senator Obama?

Because if that's true, then Gov Palin has more executive experience than Senator McCain.

amirite?

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:21 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Yeah..Obama certainly never does any of those, or flippity flops.

This thread isn't about Obama.

Also..lessee....either the VP with a little less experience...or the big P position itself with even less? Hah!

His party has deemed him knowledgeable to lead this country. Palin on the other hand has not been deemed that. There is a HUGE difference.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:05 pm

downhill wrote:What are they supposed to do? Ask if she got S's in Kindergarten?

She's SUPPOSED to get ask hard questions.

All she's doing right now is misdirections when she doesn't have an answer.

Do you really want a leader who know's little about the affairs of the country?

Back to the original content. I happen to agree with Burke. Although Tina Fey is great in her impersonations, it's not headline news.

Katie has always asked questions then pushed them to be the bad guy/girl regardless of the answer..thats how she is well before she went to cbs. I see no mis directions I see someone not being able to take interviews very well. I'm sure that once someone is in office they will learn the job just as any other.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:15 pm

UOD wrote:Did you just suggest that Gov Palin has more experience than Senator Obama?

Because if that's true, then Gov Palin has more executive experience than Senator McCain.

amirite?

Look at the big picture..step up to 10,000 feet and open eyes. It's not about that title in front.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:16 pm

Roody wrote:This thread isn't about Obama.

Sure it is...if you toss a dig at one, expect a return. Can't stand the heat...stay outta da kitchen!

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:44 pm

Sava700 wrote:Katie has always asked questions then pushed them to be the bad guy/girl regardless of the answer..thats how she is well before she went to cbs. I see no mis directions I see someone not being able to take interviews very well. I'm sure that once someone is in office they will learn the job just as any other.

I see....

So Mrs. Smith. Tell me, what are your qualifications for doing this job?

Well you know, I'm not qualified yet but as soon as you give me the job, I'll learn it pretty fast. *winks and nods*

Of course any business should hire her, right? Come on Sava. That's a lame argument.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:47 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Yeah..Obama certainly never does any of those, or flippity flops.

Also..lessee....either the VP with a little less experience...or the big P position itself with even less? Hah!

Would you like to trade flip flops? Funny that the party who first made a big deal out of them don't have a lot to say right now.

The McCain record is loaded with flip flops.

That said leveling that charge against any politican is really pretty silly.

Do you REALLY want a leader who's so inflexible that he/she can't ever change their minds? Look what that got us for the last 8 years?

Hah is right.

Look, my personal opinion is that Obama, Biden, Mccain, all three at least have SOME experience. Palin has nada and it shows in the interviews as well as the debate with Biden.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:07 pm

downhill wrote:Palin has nada and it shows in the interviews as well as the debate with Biden.

That was one of the most neutral debates in a long time with pretty much zero outcome.

Discounting her experience? An lumping Obama in with McCain and Biden as far as experience?

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:50 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote: That was one of the most neutral debates in a long time with pretty much zero outcome.

Discounting her experience? An lumping Obama in with McCain and Biden as far as experience?

Yep and I stand by that. Obama does have experiece at a federal level. She should be more conversant with more federal programs and what's going on in Washington but the last two interviews gives the impression that her head is empty when it comes to what's going on nationally as well as internationally. But then maybe your right. After all, she DID save us from the evil Canadians.

The debate was interesting tough. She did evade a lot of questions but I'm sure that's what she's been while hiding from the newsreporters. Getting in sync with the McCain campaign and almost up to speed on the issues.

I love Couric's question on where she gets her news and couldn't recite a single publication. She has a degree in journalism and cant' cite a single publication? Maybe it's because she gets all her news from Fox and friends?

I also find it humorous to watch her AND McCain, run on the campaign a change, YET McCains platform is the same as Bush's over the last 8 years.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:55 pm

downhill wrote:I see....

So Mrs. Smith. Tell me, what are your qualifications for doing this job?

Well you know, I'm not qualified yet but as soon as you give me the job, I'll learn it pretty fast. *winks and nods*

Of course any business should hire her, right? Come on Sava. That's a lame argument.

Qualifications are one thing and she has many as does Biden, but both of them have never been a Vice President or President of a country yet so both are on equal and level grounds and both will learn it on the job.

That wasn't a argument..that was my opinion. So I'm not entitled to have a opinion but when I give it, its lame now?

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:03 pm

She has little to no knowledge on a national or international level. That's clear from listening to her.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:04 pm

Sava700 wrote:Qualifications are one thing and she has many as does Biden, but both of them have never been a Vice President or President of a country yet so both are on equal and level grounds and both will learn it on the job.

That wasn't a argument..that was my opinion. So I'm not entitled to have a opinion but when I give it, its lame now?

To say Biden and Palin are both equal in their experience in Washington with foreign or domestic issues is laughable. You need to question your sources of information.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:05 pm

Izzo wrote:To say Biden and Palin are both equal in their experience in Washington with foreign or domestic issues is laughable. You need to question your sources of information.

I have to say I like both of them and to be honest I'd rather see them running for President over the current two cause both McCain and Obama have their negatives with me.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:11 pm

Sava700 wrote:I have to say I like both of them and to be honest I'd rather see them running for President over the current two cause both McCain and Obama have their negatives with me.

What is so negative about them that would make you want Palin as POTUS and what is so positive about her that you'd like to see her as prez?

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:21 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Look at the big picture..step up to 10,000 feet and open eyes. It's not about that title in front.

I dunno, maybe you like the taste of sand. Is it a staple in your diet? Whole grain sand????

My opinion on Palin and her performance is this:

She is truly a Washington outsider and her performance is indicative of that. The one thing that I like about her, or rather, what she represents, is the idea that anyone can have a shot at Capitol Hill....the White House is accessible to it's citizens.

So you and your party wanted an outsider....you got one. So why feed her to the wolves?

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:28 pm

Sava700 wrote:Qualifications are one thing and she has many as does Biden, but both of them have never been a Vice President or President of a country yet so both are on equal and level grounds and both will learn it on the job.

That wasn't a argument..that was my opinion. So I'm not entitled to have a opinion but when I give it, its lame now?

No it's not your opinion but your argument. Sorry but it's soft about the haunches...

Let's say McCain wins the election. Then he has a heart attack 3 weeks later. Is your argument that she can learn it? I'll agree that all Presidents do but so far that's a coat of a different color.

Russell · Post by **Russell** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:15 am

Looking for a moment at the big picture, they are all politicians and will screw up some how if elected. The reason I say that is they are human and they all have there own agenda, which may or may not coincide with yours or mine. I tend to think that which ever party wins, history will be made and sadly that will be the bigger focus rather than anything good that is accomplished by either side.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:37 am

sava700 wrote:qualifications are one thing and she has many as does biden, but both of them have never been a vice president or president of a country yet so both are on equal and level grounds and both will learn it on the job.

wtf!

Paft · Post by **Paft** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:26 am

Sava700 wrote:Qualifications are one thing and she has many as does Biden, but both of them have never been a Vice President or President of a country yet so both are on equal and level grounds and both will learn it on the job.

...What the hell are you smoking? Let me give you an example to illustrate where the logic in that line of thinking goes.

I've been working in professional kitchens for a year and a half now. You have zero experience in a professional kitchen. We're both applying for a job at a steakhouse, a job that neither of us have held before. Your argument states that we're equally qualified, in spite of the fact that I've been exposed to similar environments and know many more skills that will cross over between jobs, from sanitation to prep to stocking to working the line. How does that make any sense? And by extension, how does your argument about Palin/Biden make any sense?

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:24 am

Can you make any less sense? I'm talking about the big picture..."experience in Gov't"...PERIOD.

And whoever made up that line of "Can't have your cake and eat it too" needs to be slapped in the head with a softball bat. If I have my cake..guess what....I'm going to eat it, no need to wait for anyones permission.

That may be your opinion of her, yes. I know Democrats will dismiss someone from the state of Alaska, not wanting to refer to Alaska as a real state, instead a state of hippies and grunt men labor, nothing important, etc. But in reality Alaska is heavy in growth and development, bristling with business and
some resources mighty important to the lower 48.

UOD wrote:I dunno, maybe you like the taste of sand. Is it a staple in your diet? Whole grain sand????

My opinion on Palin and her performance is this:

She is truly a Washington outsider and her performance is indicative of that. The one thing that I like about her, or rather, what she represents, is the idea that anyone can have a shot at Capitol Hill....the White House is accessible to it's citizens.

So you and your party wanted an outsider....you got one. So why feed her to the wolves?

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:15 am

Paft wrote:...What the hell are you smoking? Let me give you an example to illustrate where the logic in that line of thinking goes.

I've been working in professional kitchens for a year and a half now. You have zero experience in a professional kitchen. We're both applying for a job at a steakhouse, a job that neither of us have held before. Your argument states that we're equally qualified, in spite of the fact that I've been exposed to similar environments and know many more skills that will cross over between jobs, from sanitation to prep to stocking to working the line. How does that make any sense? And by extension, how does your argument about Palin/Biden make any sense?

Have I ever said I've "Smoked" anything on this forum??

no need to illustrate anything...draw your stick people all you want but the bottom line regardless of what kitchen your in lol is that none of them have been in the job yet..therefore they are equal as of now however just as stonecat has said its experience in a level of Govt that means the most I would think. I mean if you really want to use that kitchen job as a argument then that would put Palin way ahead as having a higher Govt Position. Let me know if any of them start making salads would ya.

The bottom line of this topic is CNN is purely reporting nothing news worthy and should stay to comedy central or some other comic station or site...

John · Post by **John** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:19 am

Burke wrote:I'm no McCain-Palin defender, but Every time Tina Fey does Palin on SNL, CNN runs it as a front-page news story. And it's never some kind of tie-in to another story, or a creative analysis, just "Tina Fey reprises role as Palin on SNL".

Oooookay.

They've been doing a good job replacing it with more pertinent topics, like OJ.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:55 am

This thread is stunning.

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:57 am

Guys Guys Guys what does any of it matter? Neither candidate or party is going to be able to keep the promises they are making. It's the same old same old, say what the people want to hear, get me into office and watch just how Washington I really am.

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:28 am

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Can you make any less sense? I'm talking about the big picture..."experience in Gov't"...PERIOD.

And whoever made up that line of "Can't have your cake and eat it too" needs to be slapped in the head with a softball bat. If I have my cake..guess what....I'm going to eat it, no need to wait for anyones permission.

That may be your opinion of her, yes. I know Democrats will dismiss someone from the state of Alaska, not wanting to refer to Alaska as a real state, instead a state of hippies and grunt men labor, nothing important, etc. But in reality Alaska is heavy in growth and development, bristling with business and
some resources mighty important to the lower 48.

Jesus H. Christ.....

You don't need to defend Palin's inexperience.....that is why she was picked as the VP...it's her strength in being a Washington outsider. So instead of getting yer panties in a knot and retorting with the usual "Obama is inexperienced as well", embrace her inexperience as her strength. Her executive experience in the state of Alaska is what counts. She hasn't been fully corrupted yet but I'm sure this indoctrination period while on the campaign trail is showing her all of the insider ropes. In any case, your Obama flip flop comments aren't helping Palin or helping the American people to understand why she was picked....so put a sock in it Chef Tell.

Just an FYI, I'm still a registered Republican and I have lived in Alaska for over a year so I'm well versed and aware of the issues.

strjms72 · Post by **strjms72** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:44 am

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Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:35 am

UOD wrote:so put a sock in it Chef Tell.

That's "Chef Cat" to you!

Re-write the ticket....Biden/Palin. Seriously, IMO the two Veep nominees are better than the Prez potentials.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:23 am

YeOldeStonecat wrote:That's "Chef Cat" to you!

Re-write the ticket....Biden/Palin. Seriously, IMO the two Veep nominees are better than the Prez potentials.

Sava700 wrote:I have to say I like both of them and to be honest I'd rather see them running for President over the current two cause both McCain and Obama have their negatives with me.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one that thinks this...