Toilet question

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:00 pm

My toilet continues to make a "running" noise after it fills back up. I noticed that the water is going past the "water line" and into a white tube.

I usually have to take the cover off and pull up something to make it stop.

thoughts?

For your time.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:04 pm

Jiggling the knob doesn't work? Thats what we always use to do.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:09 pm

does the WC have a plastic ball and a brass rod going to the ballcock, or a single all in one unit ?

if the first one, look for a screw on top of the ballcock and see if ya can screw it in some to lower the water level.

second option is to slightly bend the brass rod so the float ball sits lower

if the second type of unit, see is it has a clip that will slide up to lower the water level.

pics ?

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:10 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:Jiggling the knob doesn't work? Thats what we always use to do.

I used to do that, will try again.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:10 pm

Mark wrote:does the WC have a plastic ball and a brass rod going to the ballcock, or a single all in one unit ?

if the first one, look for a screw on top of the ballcock and see if ya can screw it in some to lower the water level.

second option is to slightly bend the brass rod so the float ball sits lower

if the second type of unit, see is it has a clip that will slide up to lower the water level.

pics ?

I'll have to look again.

Noevo · Post by **Noevo** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:12 pm

No Pics!!!!

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:14 pm

Noevo wrote:No Pics!!!!

Go Wings!

Noevo · Post by **Noevo** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:21 pm

CableDude wrote:Go Wings!

okay, 1 pic

SteelersFANinMA · Post by **SteelersFANinMA** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:24 pm

The chain that lifts the flapper, (that's flapper, not fapper

) could be kinking, and not allowing the flapper to drop completely. Or the flapper isn't creating a seal anymore and is constantly letting small amounts of water to seep through. This causes the water to constantly run while trying to keep the proper water level in the tank. Scenario 2 would require replacing the flapper or completely replacing the innards of the tank. Unless you can find an exact fit on the flapper replacement, (same brand) from experience, I'd suggest replacing the whole unit. They're not expensive and are easy to install, (approx. $3-$5 for a flapper and $10-$20 for the whole unit).

If this is the issue and you go the cheap route by only replacing the flapper, you may be in for more of the same. I've found that they don't fit properly and will drop and seal sometimes, and sometimes not. Good luck!

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:25 pm

[M]ark

This is the exact float.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:27 pm

Noevo wrote:okay, 1 more chick pic

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:35 pm

CableDude wrote:[M]ark

This is the exact float.

okay see that black float thingy on the left, see the silver rod that
goes top to bottom, see the silver clip that attaches the float to the rod, move it down so the float stays lower in the tank.

Debbie · Post by **Debbie** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:39 pm

That'll be $100 Cabledude. Do not send Mark any personal checks please. Either paypal or money order. Thank you.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:44 pm

Speaking of toilet....

...back in 15 minutes...

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:48 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Speaking of toilet.... ...back in 15 minutes...

spankin the monkey?

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:49 pm

Mark wrote:okay see that black float thingy on the left, see the silver rod that
goes top to bottom, see the silver clip that attaches the float to the rod, move it down so the float stays lower in the tank.

Ok so we want the black float lowered.

What about the water that goes over the water line and into the overflow tube?

Is that a problem? Seems to be slow at refilling itself.

SteelersFANinMA · Post by **SteelersFANinMA** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:51 pm

CableDude wrote:[M]ark

This is the exact float.

Nope, there's no flapper in that tank.

Debbie · Post by **Debbie** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:55 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Speaking of toilet.... ...back in 15 minutes...

After seeing what you eat in that other thread that RE started, better take 30 minutes and bring a book!

TonyT · Post by **TonyT** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:01 pm

Just replace that entire water inlet fixture, they cost about 10 bucks. The stop valve goes bad after a while & they are not worth trying to repair or jerry-rig. It's a no brainer to replace. Home Depot carries Fluidmaster kits for less than 11 bucks or so.

JC · Post by JC » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:09 pm

TonyT wrote:Just replace that entire water inlet fixture, they cost about 10 bucks. The stop valve goes bad after a while & they are not worth trying to repair or jerry-rig. It's a no brainer to replace. Home Depot carries Fluidmaster kits for less than 11 bucks or so.

Jerry-rig?? Never heard of that.

Debbie · Post by **Debbie** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:11 pm

JC wrote:Jerry-rig?? Never heard of that.

It is a common saying in these parts.

Jerry-rig or Jimmy-rig

TonyT · Post by **TonyT** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:11 pm

JC wrote:Jerry-rig?? Never heard of that.

You're kidding, right?
It means to jury-rig. I believe it took on the use of jerry during WW2. (Jerries were Germans).
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/jury-rig

JC · Post by JC » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:14 pm

TonyT wrote:You're kidding, right?

Yeah, I'm kidding.
We tend to say something else here in GA.

Like ******-rig.

TonyT · Post by **TonyT** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:16 pm

JC wrote:Yeah, I'm kidding.
We tend to say something else here in GA.

Ahhh...GA, now I understand. Southern change gonna come at last...

De Plano · Post by **De Plano** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:39 pm

If the flap is gunked up it might not be sealing (someone else said that, but they did not say) you can just lift it up wipe it off and see if that helps. Although that is one clean looking toilet, it does not look like it would be gunked up. I guess that is what chlorine in the water will do

cybotron r_9 · Post by **cybotron r_9** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:44 pm

CableDude wrote:[M]ark

This is the exact float.

the proper term is "anti-siphon fill valve", Fluidmaster brand by the looks of it.

either it needs adjusting as Mark pointed out, or there could be debris on top of the seal which is easy to fix.

refer to step 2
http://www.toiletology.com/troubles.shtml

you can also replace the seal rather than the whole unit

http://www.fluidmaster.com/html/fill_valve_seals.html

just curious, is that an American Standard toilet?

De Plano · Post by **De Plano** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:52 pm

cybotron r_9 wrote:the proper term is "anti-siphon fill valve", Fluidmaster brand by the looks of it.

either it needs adjusting as Mark pointed out, or there could be debris on top of the seal which is easy to fix.

just curious, is that an American Standard toilet?

Some people recognize beautiful women, some people recognize beautiful cars and then there is cybo

cybotron r_9 · Post by **cybotron r_9** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:06 pm

De Plano wrote:Some people recognize beautiful women, some people recognize beautiful cars and then there is cybo

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:13 pm

De Plano wrote:Although that is one clean looking toilet, it does not look like it would be gunked up.

Not my toilet.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:14 pm

cybotron r_9 wrote: just curious, is that an American Standard toilet?

No. Its exclusive to Siberia.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:19 pm

This toilet is one of those Kohler low-flow jobs.

I have two. And I can tell you that one fills up faster then the one this thread is about.

Shinobi · Post by **Shinobi** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:43 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Speaking of toilet.... ...back in 15 minutes...

Chocolate Log?

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:48 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:Jiggling the knob doesn't work? Thats what we always use to do.

Debbie · Post by **Debbie** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:50 pm

Humboldt wrote:

TonyT · Post by **TonyT** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:07 am

The peoblem is NOT the flap. If the flap is not sealing then water runs down the hole that the flap is supposed to seal. If water runs down the tube at the top then the flap is working and the inlet valve is not shutting off. This is usually caused by mineral deposits inside the valve. Don't even bother to try to repair it, just replace the inlet entirely, else you'll end up repairing the inlet every month.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:48 am

CableDude wrote:My toilet continues to make a "running" noise after it fills back up. I noticed that the water is going past the "water line" and into a white tube.

I usually have to take the cover off and pull up something to make it stop.

thoughts?

For your time.

too small, not worth it.

adjust the float.

The Devil · Post by **The Devil** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:32 am

JC wrote:Yeah, I'm kidding.
We tend to say something else here in GA.

Like ******-rig.

Reps for the racial slur! Very bad, very good!

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:12 pm

I got it fixed.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:24 pm

CableDude wrote:I got it fixed.

and how did you fix it, i need to know.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:01 am

Mark wrote:and how did you fix it, i need to know.

I adjusted the black float as you mentioned and the chain that connects to the flapper.