I am leaning toward Hillary for President

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:03 pm

come up with this while wearing womens clothing did we?

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:03 pm

Any specific reason?

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:12 pm

Sava700 wrote:come up with this while wearing womens clothing did we?

Pants suit maybe.

Shagster · Post by **Shagster** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:19 pm

You went from conservative christian to a gay socialist just like that?

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:19 pm

Roody wrote:Any specific reason?

Because George Bush hates black people.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:23 pm

Roody wrote:Any specific reason?

I don't want Obama to be president, I think he speaks a lot of hot air but has no substance, and a term with Hillary will be like a term with Bill, and I didn't think he was that bad, plus I think we need a change, time for a democrat to be president (i think its good to go back and forth to bring in new perspectives), plus I like her stances on issues more than Obamas.

JAFO · Post by **JAFO** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:24 pm

Izzo wrote:Because George Bush hates black people.

That's enough Kanye.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:33 pm

Brent wrote:I don't want Obama to be president, I think he speaks a lot of hot air but has no substance, and a term with Hillary will be like a term with Bill, and I didn't think he was that bad, plus I think we need a change, time for a democrat to be president (i think its good to go back and forth to bring in new perspectives), plus I like her stances on issues more than Obamas.

Can you give us examples of this "hot-air" you speak of? And how are we changing if another Clinton gets into office?

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:40 pm

Pretty much everything he says, he is just speaking to speak, telling the people what they want to hear, folding and giving in to popular thought instead of standing on his own, there is no substance to him, just my opinion.

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:40 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:Pants suit maybe.

I'd hate to see her naked.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:43 pm

Brent wrote:Pretty much everything he says

So, nothing in particular stands out? I mean it looks like you'll be voting republican again because Billary won't be winning the nomination.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:43 pm

MadDoctor wrote:I'd hate to see her naked.

Hah! You wouldn't pass on an opportunity to see Oprah Winfrey naked for an hour.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:53 pm

Brent wrote:I don't want Obama to be president, I think he speaks a lot of hot air but has no substance, and a term with Hillary will be like a term with Bill, and I didn't think he was that bad, plus I think we need a change, time for a democrat to be president (i think its good to go back and forth to bring in new perspectives), plus I like her stances on issues more than Obamas.

Fair enough. Personally I think the country will get a better option then President Bush regardless of who is elected, but Obama is my own personal preference.

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:00 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Hah! You wouldn't pass on an opportunity to see Oprah Winfrey naked for an hour.

What on earth made you think of that? It will take weeks of water-boarding to get that out of my skull.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:07 pm

Brent wrote:Pretty much everything he says, he is just speaking to speak, telling the people what they want to hear, folding and giving in to popular thought instead of standing on his own, there is no substance to him, just my opinion.

He's telling people what they want to hear? Yet its McCain and Hillary who wanted the gas tax dropped, and Obama that said we have to take the blame for some of it and drive less?

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:11 pm

Brent wrote:I don't want Obama to be president, I think he speaks a lot of hot air but has no substance, and a term with Hillary will be like a term with Bill, and I didn't think he was that bad, plus I think we need a change, time for a democrat to be president (i think its good to go back and forth to bring in new perspectives), plus I like her stances on issues more than Obamas.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:12 pm

MadDoctor wrote:What on earth made you think of that? It will take weeks of water-drip torture from the sweat dripping off of her Michelin man human accordian belly folds to get that out of my skull.

*fixed*

JAFO · Post by **JAFO** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:16 pm

Originally Posted by MadDoctor
What on earth made you think of that? It will take weeks of water-drip torture from the sweat dripping off of her Michelin man human accordian belly folds to get that out of my skull.

YeOldeStonecat wrote:*fixed*

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:45 pm

JAFO wrote:

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:24 pm

MadDoctor wrote:What on earth made you think of that? It will take weeks of water-boarding to get that out of my skull.

it would take weeks because you wont give in... we know you like the fluffy folds

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:32 pm

Sava700 wrote:come up with this while wearing womens clothing did we?

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:37 pm

Shagster wrote:You went from conservative christian to a gay socialist just like that?

it's how he rolls

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:40 pm

President Hillary Rodham Clinton is the single scariest thing I've heard since the Halloween movie theme when I was a kid.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:40 pm

i'm going for the underdog

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:41 pm

Brent wrote:i'm going for the underdog

Then you made the right choice, cuz she's the underbitch against Obama and would be against McCain.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:45 pm

JBrazen wrote:Then you made the right choice, cuz she's the underbitch against Obama and would be against McCain.

I think McCain would be the underdog against either of them. Simply put alot of people want a change and the Republicans are going to be hurt by that. In particular in Congress where the Dems will likely roll to big wins in both branches.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:46 pm

Dems in congress haven't done squat so far, but maybe with a Dem prez.....

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:48 pm

Brent wrote:Dems in congress haven't done squat so far, but maybe with a Dem prez.....

Kinda hard to do something when you don't have the numbers to actually do something. Just being in the majority doesn't mean you can do much. You have to have the numbers to avoid filibusters. Dems don't have that.

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:49 pm

Roody wrote:I think McCain would be the underdog against either of them. Simply put alot of people want a change and the Republicans are going to be hurt by that. In particular in Congress where the Dems will likely roll to big wins in both branches.

Hillary beats Obama, which won't happen, you can be sure that people will come out in droves to make sure that she doesn't take office. I know plenty of Democrats that can't stand her guts and would rather vote McCain than for that She Devil. She has this air about her that people just don't like, nevermind that she's one shady ass bitch.

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:51 pm

Brent wrote:i'm going to take her doggy style

Fixed for truth.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:53 pm

Roody wrote:Kinda hard to do something when you don't have the numbers to actually do something. Just being in the majority doesn't mean you can do much. You have to have the numbers to avoid filibusters. Dems don't have that.

Huh? <scratching a$$, sniffin' finger>
Is it me or is this a bit contradictory?

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:54 pm

Ken wrote:Huh? <scratching a$$, sniffin' finger>
Is it me or is this a bit contradictory?

No, it makes sense.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:58 pm

JBrazen wrote:No, it makes sense.

...not having enough numbers, yet being a majority... <still sniffin' fingers>

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:08 pm

I guess we'll let Roody explain to you how Congress works then.

JAFO · Post by **JAFO** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:18 pm

Ken wrote:Huh? <scratching a$$, sniffin' finger>
Is it me or is this a bit contradictory?

No it's a perfectly cromulent argument.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:23 pm

Ken wrote:...not having enough numbers, yet being a majority... <still sniffin' fingers>

It takes 60 votes in the Senate to avoid a filibuster. That means that even if the Dems have 55 they still need 5 Republicans to cross the aisle. That's why a party can be in the majority and yet still not have the numbers to truly make changes.

24giovanni · Post by **24giovanni** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:38 pm

Brent wrote: and a term with Hillary will be like a term with Bill, and I didn't think he was that bad, plus I think we need a change, time for a democrat to be president (i think its good to go back and forth to bring in new perspectives), plus I like her stances on issues more than Obamas.

I couldn't agree more. The economy was in much better shape during Bill's terms than either of Daddy Bush or Baby Bush terms of recession, JMO.

Goliard · Post by **Goliard** » Fri May 16, 2008 9:00 pm

What I want to know is where and how Obama came up with the 16 million dollars his tax returns say he has.

With only a 100,000 dollar salary for the last 6 years, before that a 65,000 dollar income as a state reprenative for very few years, and the only other paying job hes ever had was as a city alterman which doesn't pay squat.
Anyone besides me notice a pecular oder hovering in the background?

~poor orphan from the streets raised by grandma makes good and pundant of the downtrodden,, my big wide Irish a$$~

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Fri May 16, 2008 9:21 pm

Goliard wrote:What I want to know is where and how Obama came up with the 16 million dollars his tax returns say he has.

With only a 100,000 dollar salary for the last 6 years, before that a 65,000 dollar income as a state reprenative for very few years, and the only other paying job hes ever had was as a city alterman which doesn't pay squat.
Anyone besides me notice a pecular oder hovering in the background?

~poor orphan from the streets raised by grandma makes good and pundant of the downtrodden,, my big wide Irish a$$~

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