Well I hope Vista gets straightened out a little after SP1 for multiple reasons.
I'd like to go back to it but can't stand how memory is used in it(go ahead YOS..fire back).
I believe once the dust calms down Vista will be the next Xp as if I remember Xp had just as many if not more issues when it came out.
The WinVistaClub reports that contrary to all that is being said on the net, it clearly looks like Microsoft is NOT planning to release Windows 7 in 2009. Microsoft's official response, by an Email dated 26th January, 2008, to WinVistaClub states that Windows 7 is still in the planning stage and will take approximately 3 years to develop. The following is the extract of the mail:
Q. What is the expected timeline for the availability of Windows 7?
A. We are currently in the planning stages for Windows 7 and expect it will take approximately 3 years to develop. The specific release date will be determined once the company meets its quality bar for release.
Q. Has Windows 7 been released to manufacturing?
A. We’re continuing to work with our partners on the development of Windows 7, and are not sharing any additional information at this time.
Q. Is the schedule for Windows 7 being moved up due to poor Windows Vista sales?
A. We’re not sharing additional information on Windows 7 at this time. However, we’re confident that many organizations are recognizing the value in Windows Vista. Of note, sales of Windows Vista licenses have now passed 100 million. In addition, Windows Vista is being adopted by businesses at a rate that is similar to past releases. In the business market there are early, mainstream and late adopters, with the majority of businesses falling into the category of mainstream. We’re seeing positive indicators that we’re already starting to move from the early adoption phase into the mainstream, and that more and more businesses are beginning their planning and deployment of Windows Vista.
While the answers to the latter 2 questions may have been on predictable lines, what is important to note that Microsoft TODAY maintains that Windows 7 is STILL in the planning stages and it will take approximately 3 (more) years to develop.
Windows has always drawn speculation; probably because it is so intrinsic to everything that we do with computers. Windows 7 was originally time-lined 2011, later reports put it at 2010; and now 2009 ! All this smoke of Windows 7, being released next year, may have led to confusion in the minds of the Windows Vista user. Did he make a mistake in upgrading? Or should he have waited? Microsoft feels that there is STILL a lot of innovation and value that needs to flow to the customers, from Vista.
And should one put off plans to upgrade from XP ... and wait for Windows 7, instead ? Resist the temptation to do so! It too will have its share of problems which any 1st year OS is expected to ! Instead focus on moving forward with Vista, if you plan to upgrade from XP. The best time to do so, if you ask me, would be immediately after the final release of Vista SP1.
Sava700 wrote:
I believe once the dust calms down Vista will be the next Xp as if I remember Xp had just as many if not more issues when it came out.
No..XP was fairly quickly adopted by business/corporate networks when it first came out. There are marketshare charts out there....comparing the adoption of a new OS from Microsoft within 9 months of it's release. I think Vista is approx 60% behind where XP was at the 9 month mark of its release.
MORNING WOOD Lumber Company
Guinness for Strength!!!
YeOldeStonecat wrote:No..XP was fairly quickly adopted by business/corporate networks when it first came out. There are marketshare charts out there....comparing the adoption of a new OS from Microsoft within 9 months of it's release. I think Vista is approx 60% behind where XP was at the 9 month mark of its release.
Perhaps in a business environment..but for the general public it had its problems just as Vista has mostly to gamers. Vista isn't bad just needs some fine tuning in multiple places.
Sava700 wrote:Perhaps in a business environment..but for the general public it had its problems just as Vista has mostly to gamers. Vista isn't bad just needs some fine tuning in multiple places.
I can't recall even the home market having nearly as much backlash with XP as it does with Vista. Had no problems soon as I went to XP myself with lots of gaming. //shrug
MORNING WOOD Lumber Company
Guinness for Strength!!!
YeOldeStonecat wrote:I can't recall even the home market having nearly as much backlash with XP as it does with Vista. Had no problems soon as I went to XP myself with lots of gaming. //shrug
It didn't have as much backlash as Vista did. It certainly had it's issues, but XP was a far more developed OS this early in then Vista was. Both on the business and home front.
Windows XP was leaps and bounds better, IMO, than it's predecessor - Windows 98/ME, in all facets of the OS. It was easier to set up for networking, and was a much smoother experience as far as ease of use for the first time user. Windows Vista is not leaps and bounds better than XP. I know from the standpoint of me working on a computer, I'd much rather work on an XP machine than a 98/ME machine. There's not as a compelling a reason for a person to switch from XP to Vista. With that said, I've only played around a little with Vista, and that was with the beta prior to it's launching. I've read too many articles about people having issues with Vista for me to give up on XP on the machines I have now. I'll just wait until after SP1 hits before venturing into those waters.
Of course, I was just a stupid Comcast tech that only worked on about a thousand different computers a year. What would I know?
------ “The most beautiful thing we can experience in life is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: for his eyes are closed.” - Albert Einstein
Indy wrote:
Of course, I was just a stupid Comcast tech that only worked on about a thousand different computers a year. What would I know?
lol I agree it is easier to workon a XP machine but thats cause thats all I've worked on here lately..when you throw a Vista machine at me I have to stand back a min and think a little before jumping in. I think Vista will come around but I still think it will be a while after SP1 and even then I hope they fix the memory issues which is what causes alot of problems to begin with.
Windows XP was leaps and bounds better, IMO, than it's predecessor - Windows 98/ME, in all facets of the OS.
XP predecessors are win98 and win 2k. XP was the first good working incarnation of the usability and ease of win98 and the stability/security of the nt kernel. ME was the first attemp by MS to include nt features in win98, but failed drastically. ME was a stepping stone for xp.
No one has any right to force data on you
and command you to believe it or else.
If it is not true for you, it isn't true. LRH
YeOldeStonecat wrote:I can't recall even the home market having nearly as much backlash with XP as it does with Vista. Had no problems soon as I went to XP myself with lots of gaming. //shrug
Oh ya, I remember all the XP hate about activation and and when people started getting it and some apps from win98 not working people screaming about that. Older systems not running it fast enough, how it was going to be teh governments way to track and watch us... Happens with every OS change it seems lol
The problem is Vista is such crap in the public eye that even if it was fixed It would take a helluva marketing plan to regain the trust of the consumer.
It will be abandoned. The next OS consumers will be cautious and wont do well out of the gates < no pun intended
I was going to post a link to that thread, but the SG search results for "bullsh|t" were too numerous
sometimes you have to think outside the box to get inside the box .
Randy wrote:The problem is Vista is such crap in the public eye that even if it was fixed It would take a helluva marketing plan to regain the trust of the consumer.
It will be abandoned. The next OS consumers will be cautious and wont do well out of the gates < no pun intended
Vista won't be abandoned, its standard on new PCs, it has DX10 that gamers will want more as games come out using it, and the bad press is mostly from people running older systems or tech guys.
YARDofSTUF wrote:Vista won't be abandoned, its standard on new PCs, it has DX10 that gamers will want more as games come out using it, and the bad press is mostly from people running older systems or tech guys.
Yos is right it wont be abandoned. It will be the junked OS that some will still use. or others have to use bcz they are n00bs
I was going to post a link to that thread, but the SG search results for "bullsh|t" were too numerous
sometimes you have to think outside the box to get inside the box .
Can vista be looked at like windows ME? I mean 'me' did find its way on a lot of consumer systems. I still think vista is in a league of its own when it comes to people disliking it. I had some slight issues with XP on release, I reverted back to 2000pro for a few months, reinstalled xp, and have used it ever since. Vista I have tried off and on (32 and 64 bit editions) about four times now. Every time I get overly annoyed and revert back to xp.
Shagster wrote:Can vista be looked at like windows ME? I mean 'me' did find its way on a lot of consumer systems. I still think vista is in a league of its own when it comes to people disliking it. I had some slight issues with XP on release, I reverted back to 2000pro for a few months, reinstalled xp, and have used it ever since. Vista I have tried off and on (32 and 64 bit editions) about four times now. Every time I get overly annoyed and revert back to xp.
Vista is the greatest OS ever compared to ME. That was a lousy OS.
Shagster wrote:Can vista be looked at like windows ME? I mean 'me' did find its way on a lot of consumer systems. I still think vista is in a league of its own when it comes to people disliking it. I had some slight issues with XP on release, I reverted back to 2000pro for a few months, reinstalled xp, and have used it ever since. Vista I have tried off and on (32 and 64 bit editions) about four times now. Every time I get overly annoyed and revert back to xp.
From 2k to XP you werent making a big jump, the 98 to XP crowd have a similar reaction to XP to Vista upgraders.
Windows ME will always be in a class of its own lol ME didnt offer much except a couple useless features over 98se, and it had more problems and was very unstable on lots of systems.
"I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional...) for AT clones... It's not portable and it probably [won't ever] support anything other than AT hard disks, as thats all I have :-(." --Posted on Usenet August 1991 by Linus Trovalds
.