8800gt for sale now?

Joe · Post by **Joe** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:15 am

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... e=10007125

appears in stock probably not though. Give it a try.

7thkevin · Post by **7thkevin** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:40 am

ive been following the gt, but id wait till official word from nvidia

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:57 am

not worth it IMO..
It looks very watered down and light to do the job the higher cards do but since the prices should be falling on all of them I would hold out on a good deal for a GTX.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:17 am

Its going to be something like 280$ and according to all reviews I find it is barely a step below the ultra/gtx of current design. Now I'm with you where you say lets buy a gtx if the price falls, but I dont forsee it falling to the 300$bracket anytime soon.

http://topic.expreview.com/2007-10-23/1 ... d6255.html

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:18 am

Joe wrote: but I dont forsee it falling to the 300$bracket anytime soon.

umm no it shouldn't fall that low at least not for 2 years... its a damn good card and is worth every bit of at least 400$+

7thkevin · Post by **7thkevin** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:18 am

Sava700 wrote:not worth it IMO..
It looks very watered down and light to do the job the higher cards do but since the prices should be falling on all of them I would hold out on a good deal for a GTX.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/24561 ... hmark-pics

still worth the price for the goodperformace that you get

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:19 am

7thkevin wrote:http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/24561 ... hmark-pics

still worth the price for the goodperformace that you get

they tested a MSI card

Good ole toms hardware

Joe · Post by **Joe** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:07 pm

Sava700 wrote:umm no it shouldn't fall that low at least not for 2 years... its a damn good card and is worth every bit of at least 400$+

Read the review man. The extra 5 - 10 fps you get more with the gtx is not worth 150+ extra price tag. A shot in the dark says you own a gtx card.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:24 pm

Joe wrote:Read the review man. The extra 5 - 10 fps you get more with the gtx is not worth 150+ extra price tag. A shot in the dark says you own a gtx card.

doesn't really matter what I own.... it is still a MSI card... shot in the dark says you like Sparkle cards too

Its still a lower end card and the prices are due to come down for all of them including the GTX and Ultra. No sense in wasting money on that GT when you could wait a few months and get a GTX or a Ultra for the same price as the GT is now.
What impresses me the most is the power consumption on this card.
But read this little quote I dug up and see how it describes the card's features and cooling abilities vs the others:

the reviewer didn't precisely insist on such trivial considerations which he probably considers insulting to MSI who kindly provided him with a pre-release review sample card but he did say that the cooler was modest (he didn't dare say flimsy), noisy, and that the card ran very hot, suggesting that an aftermarket cooler was more of a requirement than an option. Also, while he did get excited over the fact that the card was drawing less power than the 2900's -hardly a feat- he failed to comment about the fact that his graph showed that the 8800 GT's power consumption was above that of the GTS, although not by much. Nevertheless this is rather surprising considering that lower consumption had been flaunted as being one of the G92's major assets, something one would assume a reasonably objective reviewer would have commented about instead of just saying that "it sits between the 320 GTS and the HD 2900 Pro" because this is major bad news to those who were expecting huge overclocks thanks to low power consumption. In sharp contrast he made a much bigger deal of the fact that the card was drawing less power than the 2900's as if it was coming as a welcome surprise when everybody knows nothing short of a golf cart draws more power than a high-end ATi.

Considering the above I think it's likely that the new card will be a poor overclocker unless substantially modded and may be subject to heat and build quality-related issues even at stock clocks. I find it especially worrisome that these issues were noticed on what was in all likeliness a carefully screened review sample-quality card. In my expectations regarding the 8800GT I (quite foolishly) had assumed that nVidia would not repeat the mistake they had made with the 7900GT which had also been lauded during pre-release only to prove upon release that it was ridden with issues that took months to fix. Most of these issues were related to the use of the low quality components that nVidia had selected in order to keep cost down with the result that the hardware was often unable to handle its own specs. I think this could be happening again but I reserve judgment until objective reviews and user comments become available.

You might also wish to hold off on even thinking about upgrading cards or judging how I know so much about a card when they are no where near finished releasing others for the 88xx series.

The 8800 GTX is still the fastest card. It's just that the number of stream processors make a much bigger impact on performance than width of the memory bus, especially on the 8800's which already have alot of bandwidth.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:15 pm

WOW, you proved that a 700$ graphics card is better than that of a yet to be released sub 300$ one. WAY TO GO!!! Take a bow! !! Wooooo

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:31 pm

Joe wrote:WOW, you proved that a 700$ graphics card is better than that of a yet to be released sub 300$ one. WAY TO GO!!! Take a bow! !! Wooooo

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:59 am

This card seems to be out pretty good now..

Here is some drivers for those of you that get it.

WindowsXP 32bit

WindowsXP 64bit

WindowsVista 32bit

WindowsVista 64bit

This driver is not finally WHQL, Microsoft is testing this driver soon because of this RC1..but they are newer than the 169.01's.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:15 pm

definetally getting one.

Shagster · Post by **Shagster** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:44 pm

Ignore Sava. The card out performs the 8800gts 640Mb by a good bit and is just under the 8800gtx. He just can't seem to accept that anything but the most expensive hardware is worth a ****.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:45 pm

Shagster wrote:Ignore Sava. The card out performs the 8800gts 640Mb by a good bit and is just under the 8800gtx. He just can't seem to except that anything but the most expensive hardware is worth a ****.

dude I just posted drivers in support for the card.. the card is great and kicks ass for the price.. If you want the BEST----> the GTX is better at the moment and for the price you can't beat it card for card.

Shagster · Post by **Shagster** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:49 pm

Ok, if you plan to spend $450+ dollars on a video card, yes, the gtx is the best. Otherwise, spend $200 less and get 90% of the gtx's performance from the $250 8800gt.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:21 pm

Shagster wrote:Ok, if you plan to spend $450+ dollars on a video card, yes, the gtx is the best. Otherwise, spend $200 less and get 90% of the gtx's performance from the $250 8800gt.

true... or wait a few more months and get a 9800 GTX or Ultra and kick all of them to the curb

Outlaw · Post by **Outlaw** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:47 pm

I'm planning to built a new gaming rig ,and i was determined to put dual GTX cards in.
But since i've read some reviews of the GT ,ive changed my mind .
I'm def going for dual GT cards now,....saves me 350 pounds ,for just a bit less performance.......

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:38 pm

Outlaw wrote:I'm planning to built a new gaming rig ,and i was determined to put dual GTX cards in.
But since i've read some reviews of the GT ,ive changed my mind .
I'm def going for dual GT cards now,....saves me 350 pounds ,for just a bit less performance.......

SLI is a waste right now as the support just really isn't there in the 8series cards. Your better off going for a single 8800Ultra or hold out for a higher end 9800 card soon to be released.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:09 am

Havent seen a review directly comparing teh 8800gt to the GTX or ultra, would be nice to.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:02 am

YARDofSTUF wrote:Havent seen a review directly comparing teh 8800gt to the GTX or ultra, would be nice to.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.h ... VzaWFzdA==

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:35 am

Izzo wrote:http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.h ... VzaWFzdA==

Well that gives an idea at least but still no GT VS GTX numbers there.

I think the cards to buy are down to the 8800GT and 8800GTX.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:31 am

YARDofSTUF wrote:Well that gives an idea at least but still no GT VS GTX numbers there.

I think the cards to buy are down to the 8800GT and 8800GTX.

yeah nice cards...but to upgrade now is crazy.. the 9800's are coming out very soon

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:35 pm

I'm really getting disapointed in Nvidia's way of naming things, its like they want to confuse the buyers.

Shagster · Post by **Shagster** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:34 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:I'm really getting disapointed in Nvidia's way of naming things, its like they want to confuse the buyers.

Theirs a company called Macintosh that designs computer for people like you.

But seriously, yeah, I think its retarded too. ATi started it when they had the 9500/9700 series and stuck the 9600 series inbetween which was worse than the 9500 which actually was a 9700 /confusion.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:13 pm

Shagster wrote:Theirs a company called Macintosh that designs computer for people like you.

But seriously, yeah, I think its retarded too. ATi started it when they had the 9500/9700 series and stuck the 9600 series inbetween which was worse than the 9500 which actually was a 9700 /confusion.

Ya and now this 8800GTS, 8800GTS and 8800GTS things is getting a bit much.

Shagster · Post by **Shagster** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:57 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:

Ya and now this 8800GTS, 8800GTS and 8800GTS things is getting a bit much.

It shoulda been...

8800gts 640
8800gtx 768
8800ultra 768

8850gts 256/512
8850gtx 512/1024

or...

8100gt (8400 gs 256)
8200gt (8500 gt 256)

8400gts (8600gt 256)
8500gts (8600gts 512)

8700gtx (8800gts 320)
8800gtx (8800gts 640)
8900gtx (8800gtx 768)

and the new 8800's would be part of the 9000 series released early as midstream.

And I also think they never shoulda come out with the ultra since its just an 8800gtx overclocked.

ATi is replacing their normal xt and xtx and gt with numbers. So instead of a 3800pro and 3800xt it will be the 3850 and 3870.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:09 pm

I hate that it obsoleted my GTS....hopefully someone on ebay will buy it...

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:36 pm

Izzo wrote:I hate that it obsoleted my GTS....hopefully someone on ebay will buy it...

should have gotten a GTX to start with..

KINGoFOOLS · Post by **KINGoFOOLS** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:32 am

Izzo wrote:I hate that it obsoleted my GTS....hopefully someone on ebay will buy it...

You should be able to get $250 for it on fleabay people are looking to run them is SLI for some reason, cool factor I quess....im waiting for the upgraded 640mb model to come out next month or so.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:58 am

KINGoFOOLS wrote:..im waiting for the upgraded 640mb model to come out next month or so.

meh waste, just wait on the 9800's they are due to hit in a few months.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:04 am

Sava700 wrote:meh waste, just wait on the 9800's they are due to hit in a few months.

Budget might be a concern.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:17 am

YARDofSTUF wrote:Budget might be a concern.

that doesn't factor into his equation

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:33 am

YARDofSTUF wrote:Budget might be a concern.

well the next gen cards should be priced about the same as the 8series...

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:37 am

Right, wouldnt that put the 9800 at 599.99?

KINGoFOOLS · Post by **KINGoFOOLS** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:55 pm

Sava700 wrote:meh waste, just wait on the 9800's they are due to hit in a few months.

Are they going to have the gts gtx versions just like the 8800 series? Any links to the 9800's?

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:47 pm

KINGoFOOLS wrote:Are they going to have the gts gtx versions just like the 8800 series? Any links to the 9800's?

nothing official released yet... its been leaks around the net.

Blisster · Post by **Blisster** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 2:34 am

I just picked up a superclocked 512MB 8800GT from eVGA for 279+shipping.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:11 pm

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=243927

This came straight from Guru3d whom just recently did a review of the card...lots of questions with the Crysis game and this 8800GT card. Here is what was said:

I've noticed a large amount of questions in our forums about how well Crysis really runs in High Quality mode with a single 8800 GT (if you can actually find and buy one). The short version, hell no.

Glad I got the GTX

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:17 pm

Some people still run the lower resolutions so they could get away with it, and medium settings do well it semms.