Microsoft Starts Banning 360s on LIVE - MS Confirms
With the amount of posts we see on our forums ... it's clear, Microsoft decided to start banning Xbox360 with modified firmwares today.
While it's the same release date as Halo3 beta, it seems that people who didn't download Halo3 also get banned.
Also users with the disc-jitter added get banned, so it looks like Microsoft found another way to detect it.
Just like on Xbox1 it seems Microsoft bans the console unique ID, not the LIVE user.
Update: This was just posted on Microsoft's Games Global Marketing team blog:
One of the great things about LIVE and the unified community is that we work hard to create a level playing field for all gamers and have a no tolerance policy towards inappropriate behavior like hacking or cheating. As part of our commitment to our members, we do not allow people that we have detected to have modified their console to connect to LIVE. This is an important part of our efforts to try and maintain a fair gaming environment for the large majority of gamers that play by the rules. This topic is more important than ever given the recent release of the Halo 3 beta. As a result, some consumers that try to login to LIVE who we detect have illegally modified their console will get an error code (Status Code: Z: 8015 - 190D) when trying to connect to the service. These users will not have their account automatically banned from LIVE, but they will no longer be able to access the service from the console they modified.
We have stated in the past that customers can only enjoy access to the Xbox LIVE community through the use of a genuine, unmodified, Xbox console and we will continue to enforce this rule to ensure the integrity of our service, the protection of our partners and the benefits of our users.
I dont understand one thing ...people who own the games and they do backups ...the games over here are $75 taxes included, so yeah I rather do 1 backup in case something will happend to my 75 bucks game (scratches, broken cd by accident, cant find my cd ...and the list goes on) and they start banning people ...wtf
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How do you even start that case? I'm suing because I violated my user agreement and they reprimanded me.
It was only a matter of time. I'm sure it should help reduce cheating for the moment too, thats always a plus.
You dont even have a console.
What I do with my games what i BOUGHT is my own business as long as I dont put them online or share with friends.
I dont see violating user agreement at all.
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pinguinosupremo wrote:I was playing on the "What if" card.. just wanted to be safe was all.. me no want to lose my live account.. i like my live account.. so many friends..
and my main point was mainly towards..
lol one liar down but still many people don't have a modded system such as myself.
EDIT: by the my is acctually one that they sent to me refurbished
Everyone stop flaming and instead do this the effective way. What we should do is start by calling Microsoft and canceling your account then call your friends and tell them to do the same. then they will call there friends and so on in the end Microsoft will only have there employees and hardcore Halo 3 noobs online and will have no option but to remove the banning of millions of account. BASICALLY A GIANT BOYCOTT CALL AND CANCEL. ask for the year refund to. people that got banned aren't modder they just have a modded system we still pay for XBOX LIVE. BOYCOTT CALL AND CANCEL
some people are even getting banned for no reason M$ *** up
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YARDofSTUF wrote:Just a theory as I dont know MS' cheat protection stuff, but a hacked firmware could make it easier to make cheats with.
I still don't know where you keep getting these ideas, all it does it let us play copies of games and thats about it, there's nothing to it, it's just that.
Rivas wrote:You dont even have a console.
What I do with my games what i BOUGHT is my own business as long as I dont put them online or share with friends.
I dont see violating user agreement at all.
I'm pretty sure MS has the line in there somewhere about no modifing or tampering with it, just like in the warranty.
pinguinosupremo wrote:I still don't know where you keep getting these ideas, all it does it let us play copies of games and thats about it, there's nothing to it, it's just that.
I'm not just thinking of what it allows now. Im thinking of future possibilites.
YARDofSTUF wrote:I'm not talking about making game backups, that violates the games license agreement, but thats shady ground.
I'm saying I think its against MS' EULA to modify the xbox 360, not jsut physically, but also with illegitimate firmware.
I cant find a copy of the EULA online though.
I'm talking about banned users who didnt do game backups (just to be clear you cant play game backup without flashing your firmware).
Well Yard ..You think ...I think it's illegal banning users who didnt do anything wrong, they paid for service, didnt touch their gaming console and they got ban, dont you think ?
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Rivas wrote:I'm talking about banned users who didnt do game backups (just to be clear you cant play game backup without flashing your firmware).
Well Yard ..You think ...I think it's illegal banning users who didnt do anything wrong, they paid for service, didnt touch their gaming console and they got ban, dont you think ?
Did these users that got banned install a different firmware?
Well then that sounds like an issue MS needs to fix, the article penguino copied didnt mention that and either way that still doesnt give YOU a leg to stand on in a court case. Them maybe, if MS doesnt do anything about false positives.
pinguinosupremo wrote:so basically all this talk about not being able to detect the firmware is.. as penn and teller say it.. "BULLSH*T!"..
and it's xbox 360 consoles they ban.. not accounts.. and by the way.. my consoles already been banned..
you didnt even flash your drive with new firmware, there you go ...also there are no reports that users with new firmware got banned ...
The most interesting thing is they are banning users that didnt touch their consoles at all.
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YARDofSTUF wrote:Well then that sounds like an issue MS needs to fix, the article penguino copied didnt mention that and either way that still doesnt give YOU a leg to stand on in a court case. Them maybe, if MS doesnt do anything about false positives.
It doesnt give me a leg ?
I bought console + all the accessories.
Never touched my console.
Bought all my games.
Bought XBOX LIVE.
Bought 15 000 MS points.
Total value ....$3000
Got banned for no reason.
And it doesnt give me a LEG ?
Sure it does.
To be human is to choose.
It is better to die on your feet
than to live on your knees.
I bought console + all the accessories.
Never touched my console.
Bought all my games.
Bought XBOX LIVE.
Bought 15 000 MS points.
Total value ....$3000
Got banned for no reason.
And it doesnt give me a LEG ?
Sure it does.
You modified your Xbox by using a different firmware.
I'm thinking that they just stated to ban users with modded systems but have what ever settings it looks at to broad. From what I understand it has to do with disc jitter or something. Well even a retail disc with minor scratch can show high reading like a burned disc.
Hopefull they will get on this problem ASAP before this really hits the press. I know within a few days, if this isnt fixed you will see little Timmy and his mom on the news talking about his banned xbox that has never been tampered with.
This is not the kind of press XBOX needs.
haha
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YARDofSTUF wrote:Your right I'm just assuming you did because of all the modding posts you've made and because you bought the Zoom thing.
Zoom thing ?
What's that.
Just look at the facts ...even if the console is modded they cant, YARD they really cant detect it, if you would like to know more about it go to http://www.xbox-scene.com
That above post is correct, your 360 is not modded but your cd is scratched or you downloaded demos from different regions = bann.
How the heck people should know where are they downloading it from, it's on xbox live marketplace available for download for everyone.
They are "throwing "net" into dark waters not knowing what they will catch.And yes in case it hits the press it doesnt going to help them.
Sure I did write quite a few posts about modding, nothing wrong with it, it's not against SG TOS, and because I did it doesnt mean I modded my 360.
To be human is to choose.
It is better to die on your feet
than to live on your knees.
Just look at the facts ...even if the console is modded they cant, YARD they really cant detect it, if you would like to know more about it go to http://www.xbox-scene.com
That above post is correct, your 360 is not modded but your cd is scratched or you downloaded demos from different regions = bann.
How the heck people should know where are they downloading it from, it's on xbox live marketplace available for download for everyone.
They are "throwing "net" into dark waters not knowing what they will catch.And yes in case it hits the press it doesnt going to help them.
Sure I did write quite a few posts about modding, nothing wrong with it, it's not against SG TOS, and because I did it doesnt mean I modded my 360.
SG TOS has nothing to do with this. How can you be so sure they cant? The article said they are bannign for DVD jitter and firmware.
YARDofSTUF wrote:I read what was posted and what you linked and what you linked says they are panning for firmware as well.
Nothing has been said as to why its not possible for MS to detect the firmware.
They are panning for games that never been released yet and HALO3 beta from burned disc's.
It's not the firmware, it's the disc (media).
Even with Crackdown they cant proof anything, my disc got scratch what you are talking about ? but POC at Worlds End, thats some proof and they will be banned forever, that game never been released.
It's like saying I can tell you what kind of computer case you got.
ANyway I'm out.
To be human is to choose.
It is better to die on your feet
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Rivas wrote:They are panning for games that never been released yet and HALO3 beta from burned disc's.
It's not the firmware, it's the disc (media).
Even with Crackdown they cant proof anything, my disc got scratch what you are talking about ? but POC at Worlds End, thats some proof and they will be banned forever, that game never been released.
It's like saying I can tell you what kind of computer case you got.
ANyway I'm out.
No its liek saying I can tell what kinda firmware(bios) your mobo has on it, and that is possible.
