gates gives 500 million

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:14 pm

just so the member who thought gates was a lame rich guy gets more info

http://news.com.com/Gates+Foundation+gi ... g=nefd.top

yes, that's HALF OF ONE BILLION DOLLARS

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:20 pm

Cool, finally a charity that isnt going to just tiny african countries.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:25 pm

Bill is actually quite generous and donates an incredible amount constantly...

Thanks for the info, Amro!

MissTynker2 · Post by **MissTynker2** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:43 pm

[quote="Ken"]Bill is actually quite generous and donates an incredible amount constantly... ]

That he does. Good job Bill!!

minir · Post by **minir** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:53 pm

Hi Amro

I heard on the News a couple of dys ago that he was donating 1 Billion to a charity that will help American kids get a further education, rather than having so many that can't afford Colledge simply ending their wishes for a higher education.

Good for him. Most believe he only helps 3rd world folks and that is untrue.

He's also embarrassed a few of his peers to do likewise.

Thanks for your post Amro

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minir

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:00 pm

minir wrote:Good for him. Most believe he only helps 3rd world folks and that is untrue.

Its not just him, and its where you hear most of the charities targetting(africa/3rd worlds)

If he does balance it out so a good sum goes to both then thats much better. Too many rich and wealthy people hop on and help the poor kids in africa with their money that was generated from americans' business.

Unholy · Post by **Unholy** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:22 pm

Charity makes you look good and helps with the tax forms. It's better to give to charity than paying the man.

minir · Post by **minir** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:28 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:Its not just him, and its where you hear most of the charities targetting(africa/3rd worlds)

If he does balance it out so a good sum goes to both then thats much better. Too many rich and wealthy people hop on and help the poor kids in africa with their money that was generated from americans' business.

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Hi YARDofSTUF

I think he's done a lot unknown to the public but now that he's into his charitable organization in a big way i believe he is now using a PR person to lessen the belief by many it's only 3rd. Countries he helps.

He's donated all kinds of equipment to USA Schools etc that goes virtually unoticed by the public and one of the greatest things he's done was to help with funding and equipment to set up the Child Exploitation unit for the Canadian Police which is now going Worldwide to help catch these pedophile bastards.

If he never did another thing in his life that alone would be a legacy to be very proud of.

Personally having watched him on a couple of Talk Shows he & his Wife are having the time of their lives doing for others and putting their money where it can do wonderful things, especially for the children of the World.

Were we all so generous in giving what we can the world would be a better place imho.
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minir

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:34 pm

Unholy wrote:Charity makes you look good and helps with the tax forms. It's better to give to charity than paying the man.

IMHO, that's not what Gates is trying to do. Read up on Andrew Carnegie. There are tons of library's across this country, built by the Carnegie trust. Carnegie knew he couldn't take it with him and figured he'd do as he preached.

I think Gates is taken with the same idea, promoted by other philanthropists like Carnegie and that tounge lashing by Turner. He's decided to make a real name for his wife and himself.

Go Bill!

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:38 pm

downhill wrote:IMHO, that's not what Gates is trying to do. Read up on Andrew Carnegie. There are tons of library's across this country, built by the Carnegie trust. Carnegie knew he couldn't take it with him and figured he'd do as he preached.

I think Gates is taken with the same idea, promoted by other philanthropists like Carnegie and that tounge lashing by Turner. He's decided to make a real name for his wife and himself.

Go Bill!

Ah yes Andrew Carnegie...thanks to him I have a great job

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:41 pm

minir wrote:--

Hi YARDofSTUF

I think he's done a lot unknown to the public but now that he's into his charitable organization in a big way i believe he is now using a PR person to lessen the belief by many it's only 3rd. Countries he helps.

He's donated all kinds of equipment to USA Schools etc that goes virtually unoticed by the public and one of the greatest things he's done was to help with funding and equipment to set up the Child Exploitation unit for the Canadian Police which is now going Worldwide to help catch these pedophile bastards.

If he never did another thing in his life that alone would be a legacy to be very proud of.

Personally having watched him on a couple of Talk Shows he & his Wife are having the time of their lives doing for others and putting their money where it can do wonderful things, especially for the children of the World.

Ya, give me 45 billion and I'd have the time of my life giving it away too, talk about funny money, with that much, hell you wouldnt really know what a dollar is worth.

minir wrote:Were we all so generous in giving what we can the world would be a better place imho.

Different, but I doubt better, and probably unrecognisable(sp) in how daily life and prosperity would work.

minir · Post by **minir** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:46 pm

Different, but I doubt better, and probably unrecognisable(sp) in how daily life and prosperity would work

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A little goes a long way YoS, especially in poverty stricken parts of the world.

If the USA & Canada had each of our populations throw in a Buck direct to the sourc that would be enough to do some amazing works imho YoS

regards

minir

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:09 pm

You guys really need to make some trips to 3rd world countries... Any of you guys ever have to work all day, 12-14 hours, in the sun, everyday, just to hope to make enough for food to eat tomorrow... It really saddens me to hear people jealous of those people, as even what we call poor here, is rich by their standards...

Get out and see the world and learn what humble really means...

Be happy that you were "lucky" enough to be "born" in the USA...

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:13 pm

minir wrote:--

A little goes a long way YoS, especially in poverty stricken parts of the world.

If the USA & Canada had each of our populations throw in a Buck direct to the sourc that would be enough to do some amazing works imho YoS

regards

minir

Absolutely, but thats different than what you said before, this I agree with.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:19 pm

[quote="Ken"]You guys really need to make some trips to 3rd world countries... Any of you guys ever have to work all day, 12-14 hours, in the sun, everyday, just to hope to make enough for food to eat tomorrow... It really saddens me to hear people jealous of those people, as even what we call poor here, is rich by their standards...

Get out and see the world and learn what humble really means... ]

No I won't just be happy that I was born here, I am happy that I was, but I won't leave it at that.

Our goverment throws money to Iraq like we've got it to burn, and all these charities send american money to help the 3rd world countries, whiel we have our own poor and sick.

Ya, major disasters sure we need to help out, and helping other countries is a good thing, but the general feel is that we treat our poor like **** and want to help 3rd world countries and save the new zealand dodobird.

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:24 pm

i wasn't born in the USA, but i'm glad and proud i'm here.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:26 pm

Amro wrote:i wasn't born in the USA, but i'm glad and proud i'm here.

You have my permission to continue living here

minir · Post by **minir** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:58 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:Absolutely, but thats different than what you said before, this I agree with.

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In what way is it different YoS?

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regards

minir

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:42 pm

minir wrote:--

In what way is it different YoS?

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minir

Everyone just giving a dollar and continuing on with life, no big change.

VS

Everyone now thinking to give what they can, thats more of a mind change, to actually give what you can after bills? After retirement savings, and what, limit entertainment money? What people can afford to give is kinda tough, the way the world is moving you need a very good retirement plan now, and etnertainment to an extent is needed to keep yourself sain. So if everyone was to "give what they could" I think it would need to be a floating priority after retirement and around entertainment. And if EVERYONE was to do that then there would be no criminals or violence or hatred, and then there would be no need for entertainment because we would be null of high emotions liek happiness and saddness, so then the entertainment money could go to the poor as well... See big difference, that would change the structure of the world

minir · Post by **minir** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:54 pm

Hi YoS

Colour me confused???

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minir

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:56 pm

minir wrote:Colour me confused???

I took the idea to the extreme. Or well, one extreme.

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:01 am

[quote="Ken"]You guys really need to make some trips to 3rd world countries... Any of you guys ever have to work all day, 12-14 hours, in the sun, everyday, just to hope to make enough for food to eat tomorrow... It really saddens me to hear people jealous of those people, as even what we call poor here, is rich by their standards...

Get out and see the world and learn what humble really means... ]

I don't have to go to a 3rd world country to know what it's like to be poor ....I grew up pretty gotdamned poor

minir · Post by **minir** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:02 am

Hi YoS

My poor little brain-box ain't working all that well due to the drugs i'm on and i'm obviously not catching the pop flies.

Sorry YoS, i'll be better in a few days when the drugs run out.

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regards

minir

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:50 am

Izzo wrote:I don't have to go to a 3rd world country to know what it's like to be poor ....I grew up pretty gotdamned poor

I dunno, after my trips to Mexico it really redefined how I thought about "poor". A common lower class dwelling down there are a few discarded shipping pallets and a scrap peice of metal... And these "homes" are not few and far between, but cities as far as the eye can see. Kids drinking out of muddy puddles, face first...

The absolute lowest class americans are generally about as well off as middle to upper-middle class down there... It's a whole different world.

I may not approve of Microsoft's business practices (or Gates' hand in them), but it's good to see him spreading the wealth a little.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:27 am

YARDofSTUF wrote:No I won't just be happy that I was born here, I am happy that I was, but I won't leave it at that.

Our goverment throws money to Iraq like we've got it to burn, and all these charities send american money to help the 3rd world countries, whiel we have our own poor and sick.

Ya, major disasters sure we need to help out, and helping other countries is a good thing, but the general feel is that we treat our poor like **** and want to help 3rd world countries and save the new zealand dodobird.

Here is the part that you don't get. Most, if not all, of our poor here in the USA and most developed countries have the opportunity to improve themselves. Yes, there are some exceptions and extinuating circumstances, but for the most part bad decisions, lazy, perhaps even bed luck can be stated as the reason. Our poor can get health care, and most can get food...
The other countries have NO options... When you can understand that, you will know why they give their lives to try and come here, just for a chance,... you know, like your ancestors did...

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:29 am

Izzo wrote:I don't have to go to a 3rd world country to know what it's like to be poor ....I grew up pretty gotdamned poor

What you call poor. But I can guarantee you as poor as you have ever seen isn't close to what poor really is... Get out and see the world, eh...

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:30 am

Kyle wrote:I dunno, after my trips to Mexico it really redefined how I thought about "poor". A common lower class dwelling down there are a few discarded shipping pallets and a scrap peice of metal... And these "homes" are not few and far between, but cities as far as the eye can see. Kids drinking out of muddy puddles, face first...

The absolute lowest class americans are generally about as well off as middle to upper-middle class down there... It's a whole different world.

I may not approve of Microsoft's business practices (or Gates' hand in them), but it's good to see him spreading the wealth a little.

Rep points to you! The ones that never leave our country have no clue...

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:54 am

[quote="Ken"]What you call poor. But I can guarantee you as poor as you have ever seen isn't close to what poor really is... Get out and see the world, eh... ]

I'll respectfully disagree.....you might have seen it here and other places and you obviously know it when you see it...but when you're sleeping a family of three in a car for weeks at a time how do you think I'd respond to you if you asked If I was feeling lucky for that? Give up everything you got and do that for a while, then try to imagine waking up every day wondering if you're gonna eat that day......go ahead and do that so you know what it feels like.

Get out and see the world eh???.....I can't afford it. You've obviously never been poor ....give away everything you got and all your money and enjoy the experience...

tHE_0ne · Post by **tHE_0ne** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:08 pm

thats alot of m$

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:38 pm

[quote="Ken"]Here is the part that you don't get. Most, if not all, of our poor here in the USA and most developed countries have the opportunity to improve themselves. Yes, there are some exceptions and extinuating circumstances, but for the most part bad decisions, lazy, perhaps even bed luck can be stated as the reason. Our poor can get health care, and most can get food...
The other countries have NO options... When you can understand that, you will know why they give their lives to try and come here, just for a chance,... you know, like your ancestors did... ]

Yes, I understand it, our poor have it better for a lot of reasons, but I say we should help our own first.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:53 am

[quote="Izzo"]I'll respectfully disagree.....you might have seen it here and other places and you obviously know it when you see it...but when you're sleeping a family of three in a car for weeks at a time how do you think I'd respond to you if you asked If I was feeling lucky for that? Give up everything you got and do that for a while, then try to imagine waking up every day wondering if you're gonna eat that day......go ahead and do that so you know what it feels like. ]

Sorry bro, but having a "car" is more than most could ever "dream" of...

That is the whole point that I am trying to make, by "our" standards (USA & developed countries), your family was "poor", however, on world standards, you were still "rich" beyond belief...

And yes, I come from a "poor" farm family, everything, and I mean EVERYTHING that I have or have ever had, "I" worked for and earned... Keep in mind that I HAD to be self supporting at 16, actually 12 days before I turned 16 was when my mother died, never had a dad, saw him only once in the casket, so I had no one to support me... I had to choose MANY times what was more important electricity, water or food... I lived off of nothing but peanut butter and bread for months at a time. Yes, I know poor, not just "our" poor, but "real" poor...

And as far as give away, I would venture to say that I give away more than the majority earn...

I am the guy that is in line at the grocery store that pays for a ladies groceries as she is struggling to see what she has to put back because she doesn't have enough money. I am the guy that had paid peoples electric bills because I could hear the desparation in their voice as they beg to not have their electricity turned off... This is routine for for me... This is why people remember me and I hear them whisper and say, "That is the guy that...", as I just smile and walk away... I don't tell people these things that I do, I do it because I "know" what poor is...

I am not picking you, Izzy. I actually like you. I am just trying to show you how fortunate we are...

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:09 am

[quote="Ken"]Sorry bro, but having a "car" is more than most could ever "dream" of... ]

Meh ..poor is poor and there ain't nothin' lucky about it. You and I grew up somewhat similar ..way I see it are those that are drinkin' outta the ditch ...wellp ...they got feet ..they can go walk and find work or find a better place too....it's all the same if you boil it down. Just because there are others that live worse than I did doesn't make it any less 'real' or make my world at the time a special place. It sucks.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:11 am

Izzo wrote:Meh ..poor is poor and there ain't nothin' lucky about it. You and I grew up somewhat similar ..way I see it are those that are drinkin' outta the ditch ...wellp ...they got feet ..they can go walk and find work or find a better place too....it's all the same if you boil it down. Just because there are others that live worse than I did doesn't make it any less 'real' or make my world at the time a special place. It sucks.

I hear what you say, and the difference is that here, the ones drinking water from a ditch that can get up walk to a job, at least have the opportunity to work for money. In many places there is no job to go to...

I recall handing a lady in rural Honduras, some paper money (Of her country, Lempiras) after I had eaten eggs and tortillas with her and her family. The look on her face as she looked at the piece of paper told me that she had no clue what money was... It was a useless piece of paper. I was a total stranger, that started talking to them as I was exploring the countryside. (I did things like that, go were tourist have never been nor would venture, and hear them talk about the giant with white skin and green eyes, as they have never seen such a person with those characteristics)
They waited while I ate, and it was later that I realized why, they had no idea how much food it would take to satisfy a person of my size. They did not know me, yet they fed me before they fed themselves...

It is this type of thing that showed me that a world where money is basically non existant is still important. They didn't choose to be born under those circumstances.
Life is not fair...

I understand what you say... I am sorry for your hardships and everyones hardships... I can't take care of the whole world, but I do try to do what I can and begrudge no one. Anyone that knows me, will, with no doubt, tell you that about me...

The one thing that you will never hear anyone say about me is that I am greedy. I am one of the most generous persons most will ever cross paths with... Money truly means nothing to me. You need it to live, but it doesn't rule me, nor do I put a price on friendship or humanity...

Good luck!

ntvh · Post by **ntvh** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:31 pm

Hi Guys,
If I have alot lot of money like BILLGATE...I would giveup Microsoft and get into CHARITY BUSINESS INDUSTRY. That is the new way to make money.

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I only admire to those people they don't have money for their daily bread and willing to give their parts but like BILLGATE doing right now..what good about it. Business is just business. We don't know yet why BILL doing that but like I post about this subject before this is just his fame. NO MORE NO LESS.

I hope he should get back to his MS business to fix all his security holes from windows so we all have better OS to use for our daily works. Vista not come out yet and it's S... already.

G-IcE · Post by **G-IcE** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:01 pm

I applaud Bill Gates.Even though he probably gets it all back in tax refunds,the people he gives it to are still appreciative,

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:30 pm

G-IcE wrote:I applaud Bill Gates.Even though he probably gets it all back in tax refunds,the people he gives it to are still appreciative,

Bill Gates is quite amazing. I had the extreme pleasure to meet him in person twice and I'll never forget it.