Major Terror Bust in Toronto

[minir]

Hi to all

This should be a wake up call to those of us yet to be directly affected by such undertakings elsewhere. Be vigilant is the new byword.
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At least 8 in 'terror' cell arrested as police foil possible attack on the TTC ( Toronto Transit Commission "The Subway")

By VIVIAN SONG AND BRETT CLARKSON, TORONTO SUN
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'Get inside, Get inside!' police shout


TORONTO - In a stunning development yesterday, police made a sweeping terrorist bust within the GTA and expected to make several more arrests throughout the night.

"The RCMP, CSIS and the Integrated National Security Enforcement Team arrested individuals throughout the GTA today in relation to terrorist-related offences," confirmed RCMP spokesman Corp. Michele Paradis.

As of about 9 p.m. last night, Paradis also added "there are ongoing arrests."

Though unconfirmed, sources have told the Sun police arrested a possible home-grown al-Qaeda terrorist cell operating in Toronto that had planned to bomb the subway as early as Monday.

Just three days ago, Sun columnist Joe Warmington wrote about two men spotted filming the subway system on May 23 at Keele station, which raised alarm bells with Toronto Police and CSIS.

But sources also tell the Sun that the RCMP "planted" that story with the media, though reasons remain unclear.

Police had been watching several alleged terrorist camps since 2004 -- one of which is reported to be in the Muskokas near Bracebridge and another near Thunder Bay, a police source told Warmington late last night.

"Recently some officers followed two men who left the camp near Thunder Bay and headed to Toronto," said the source.

Another Sun source said there was a similar "terrorist" camp near Barry's Bay -- within an hour's drive of several Ontario nuclear operations.

Other source also tell the Sun the arrested individuals were amassing weapons.

"This is huge, this is massive."

Sources cited by the Canadian Press corroborate this claim, saying the suspects were arrested in the Toronto area for allegedly "plotting an attack with explosives."

"It is very serious," said a source who asked not to be named. "These people had plans."

While the targets were unclear, the aim was to detonate an explosive device in Ontario, they said.

"That's the tool of choice for anybody who wants to cause damage."

The enforcement team also includes GTA police forces and the department of justice.

Officials remained tight-lipped about the nature of the arrests, refusing to reveal the number of people arrested, who was arrested, the nature of the terrorist activities, when or where the arrests were made, fuelling conflicting reports.

Some news outlets discounted allegations the subway or the CN Tower were targets, and claimed the terrorists involved are not directly affiliated with al-Qaeda, but were inspired by them.

Others pegged the number of arrested at eight, and said the investigation involved around a hundred officers.

In November of 2002, al-Qaeda singled out six countries for supporting "the White House gang of butchers." Among them: Great Britain, France, Italy, Germany, Australia and Canada. Terrorists bombed London's subway system last July, killing 52 people.

Meanwhile, a quiet Mississauga neighbourhood got a shocking visit from ETF officers who stormed the new subdivision and busted down the door of a Rosehurst Dr. home at about 6:30 p.m. One neighbour described the arrested man as heavyset, in his mid-50s with black hair and a beard, who appeared to be of Middle Eastern descent.

At 7:15 p.m. last night, a highly unusual scene on the Gardiner Expressway raised the suspicions of Sun photo editor Rick VanSickle when he saw an ambulance flanked by two police cars driving east toward the city. VanSickle was between Islington and Royal York at the time and also saw a nondescript car and unmarked silver minivan with police lights parked at the side of the road.

"Normally when I see an ambulance there is no police escort. That's what struck me," he said.

The RCMP is expected to make some details available today at a news conference at the Toronto Congress Centre on Dixon Rd., also an unusual venue for such an announcement.

At the Durham Regional Police Station at Hwy. 2 and Brock Rd., where it was speculated the arrested are being detained, at least three police officers armed with machine-guns patrolled the building, which was sealed off with yellow tape.

Scores of police cars, officers and dogs also kept vigil over the heavily guarded building, keeping media outlets outside.

A convoy of SUVs, unmarked cars and minivans parked at the side of the building also appeared to hold some people.

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minir

[MissTynker2]

I am pleased their plot was disarmed before there was any major damage done. There is no place that I would consider to be immune to this type of activity in the world. However, it strikes even harder when it is at your own back door. Let's hope they catch each and every one of them and not let any strays remain wandering about! Be safe Larry!

P.S. No subways for you! If you need a ride..just call me, been years since I have visited that beautiful place.

[minir]

Good morning Misty


Someone did a good job of it here i must say. I always believed we were not immune to Terrorists in Canada, but we had thus far been spared their gutless acts of violence.

Hopefully it will awaken others to be watchful in their own areas from here on in. One never knows. If they caught this group surely there are others just like them laying in wait here as well.

Toronto is a beautiful City but one i rarely visit anymore. Hate the drive. Getting lazy in my old age.

Thanks for your concern and hope alls well with you.

I'm off to Town to celebrate my Mom's 88th Birthday. She turned 88 yesterday, but we held off till today so others might get here to enjoy the occasion as well.

Should be fun and of course i look forward to the Food...a bachelors paradise, as i usually get a travel pack to take with me and have no need to cook for a couple of days while enjoying treats.

See you later tonight and do have a pleasant day.

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regards

larry

[blacklab]

Hi to all

This should be a wake up call to those of us yet to be directly affected by such undertakings elsewhere. Be vigilant is the new byword.
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At least 8 in 'terror' cell arrested as police foil possible attack on the TTC ( Toronto Transit Commission "The Subway")

By VIVIAN SONG AND BRETT CLARKSON, TORONTO SUN
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'Get inside, Get inside!' police shout


TORONTO - In a stunning development yesterday, police made a sweeping terrorist bust within the GTA and expected to make several more arrests throughout the night.
Other source also tell the Sun the arrested individuals were amassing weapons.

"This is huge, this is massive."

Sources cited by the Canadian Press corroborate this claim, saying the suspects were arrested in the Toronto area for allegedly "plotting an attack with explosives."

"It is very serious," said a source who asked not to be named. "These people had plans."

While the targets were unclear, the aim was to detonate an explosive device in Ontario, they said.

"That's the tool of choice for anybody who wants to cause damage."


Officials remained tight-lipped about the nature of the arrests, refusing to reveal the number of people arrested, who was arrested, the nature of the terrorist activities, when or where the arrests were made, fuelling conflicting reports.
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minir

Hi minir

Glad I live out here away from all that stuff.

I listened to a news conference held in Toronto this AM. I can not figure out why it is such a big deal to give the citizenship of those arrested.

When someone asked they were told it was against Canada's privacy laws that people can not be identified by their citizenship. What's the big deal in telling the citizenship. I wish our law enforcement people were more like the US and be more willing to give out information.

They always use the excuse they don't want to jeopardize a future court case. I don't know when these people will recognize the jury pool has a lot of smart people in it who are able to give a verdict based on facts and not what they read and hear in the media.

So far they are saying the subway was not the target. If it isn't what is. I guess if someone wanted to kill a lot of people the subway is the thing to hit, but if someone wanted to cause a lot of havoc and possibly kill a lot of people then the nuclear power stations is the thing to go after, and if someone just wanted to cause a lot of inconvenience they should go after the gas and oil supply. Could you imagine if Eastern Canada and US was deprived of their natural gas and couldn't run their air conditioners?

These people can't be too bright. I doesn't sound like any of them are farmers. Did they not think buying 3 tons of fertilizer would not draw attention, and I bet the gun they found was not registered. Right there they can be put away for five years.

blacklab

[Chris]

but if someone wanted to cause a lot of havoc and possibly kill a lot of people then the nuclear power stations is the thing to go after,

blacklab

"Gazes to the west, only 25 miles to the biggest nuke facility...The Bruce"


Guess I'll go pick up some beer and burgers for the grill, time for a fallout party...oops, to close for fallout, guess it gonna be a vapourizing/incineration party

[MissTynker2]

I see the updated arrest count in this is up to 17! That's real scary!

[Prey521]

"The plot was said to involve three tons of ammonium nitrate -- three times the amount of fertilizer used in the Oklahoma City bomb."

WOW!

[Immortal]

Hmm... it's where I live. I'm glad I don't take the subway but yeah... scary.

[Ghosthunter]

wow i am glad they got these terrorists before they were able to do their plan...wonder how many lives have been saved

[minir]

Hi blacklab, Chris, MissTynker, Prey, Immortal & Ghosthunter
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blacklab
I've been away for the day and haven't heard a thing about it ( The Updates). When i mentioned it to my Sister Nina and Ma they hadn't seen anything on it either as of then. They were shocked to say the least.

As to not identifying the nationality of those involved, i would think it is to prevent people taking things into their own hands and attacking those of that race or otherwise causing difficulties to innocents of that nationality.

They most often seek publicity imho and taking out a Subway or the CN Tower would cause death, disruption and glaring headlines without endangering themselves or others they know. A nuclear facility would not guarantee that same result.

Remember these are cowards we are dealing with Terry.

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Chris
There are many such places that should be on High Alert imho Chris. Take nothing for granted when it comes to public safety should be the Government Watchword of today.

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MissTynker
I haven't caught up to the News yet MissTynker, but it doesn't surprise me in the least.

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Prey
Again i hadn't heard that Prey. That is massive.

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Immortal
The Big City would garner the most Headlines i guess Immortal and they can fit in more easily in such an environment as well. Less suspect while doing what they wish. Scary indeed.


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Ghosthunter
No doubt countless lives Ghosthunter, plus vast expense and the terror they would have caused in the public. I'm pleased those in charge did such an amazing job, but doubtless it ends there.

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Thanks Everyone. The New World is not without risk and we each need to be more vigilant if we are to overcome this horrific movement of Murderers.

These people imho are not Terrorists, rather Murders, as far as I'm concerned and should be referred to as such in Headlines everywhere.

Insurgents be damned...Murderers All.

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regards

minir

[Bo Riddick]

But, but...Canadians didn't do nothing to piss off the Islamic fascist! they're a peaceful buch them Canadians are.



on another note....
Cracks me up how the Police are trying to withhold their Nationalities/affiliations ect.

[minir]

Hi Bo Riddick

These Animals need no reason to do what they do, they simply murder where they can and hide behind their version of a religious belief.

It also appears these where Canadians born and raised here of Muslim decent who are unhappy with their lot in life and decided to take their frustrations out on the world through murdering innocents. Not unlike the ones who did the damage in Britain lately.

Bringing back the death penalty would be a good start imho.

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minir

[Jamie_R]

glad they got these ba$tards before they could do any damage ... now here's to a speedy execution - um - trial ...

[minir]

glad they got these ba$tards before they could do any damage ... now here's to a speedy execution - um - trial ...

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From Your lips to God's Ear Jamie_R.

It will no doubt cost the Country millions to bring these people to trial and the never ending appeals to follow and they will get a slap on the wrist.

There needs to be a Special Law for acts like this against the Public that invokes automatic use of the Death Penalty imho.

I couldn't agree with you more Jamie_R.

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minir

[blacklab]

Hi blacklab, Chris, MissTynker, Prey, Immortal & Ghosthunter
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blacklab
I've been away for the day and haven't heard a thing about it ( The Updates). When i mentioned it to my Sister Nina and Ma they hadn't seen anything on it either as of then. They were shocked to say the least.

As to not identifying the nationality of those involved, i would think it is to prevent people taking things into their own hands and attacking those of that race or otherwise causing difficulties to innocents of that nationality.

regards

minir

Do you feel the same about not identifying those under 18. Here we have people who want to do us harm walking amongst us and we can't know who they are because we don't want to jeopardize their future.

If they can do the crime they should be able to put up with the fallout.

Terry

[minir]

Do you feel the same about not identifying those under 18. Here we have people who want to do us harm walking amongst us and we can't know who they are because we don't want to jeopardize their future.

If they can do the crime they should be able to put up with the fallout.

Terry

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Hi blacklab]

I did not say "That's how i feel Terry" i simply stated what i thought would be the reasoning behind not releasing names etc to the public at that time.

Personally i don't agree with that on any level and think its BS. They wouldn't hesitate to release the names of a Gang or Mafia member and their ethnic backgrounds and i see no reason for them not to do so in this case.

As to the underage culprits, i feel the same way no matter the crime, but in particular in this case. I for one feel we as Citizens have a right to know who we should keep an eye on and if there is a threat living next door or around the corner.

In something as major as this and the devastation it could have caused everyone needs to be able to protect themselves from them at any cost.

I hope they move these teens to Adult Court so as to remove all barriers that might otherwise protect them in Juvenile Court. They need to feel the full weight of the Law and the wrath of the Citizenry imho.

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regards

Larry