9/11 Pentagon Video to go public today...

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Tue May 16, 2006 2:42 pm

so says CNN when I dropped in. I'm pissed I gotta wait to see this until tonight. Someone let me know their thought if/when they see this.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue May 16, 2006 2:57 pm

https://www.speedguide.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=200000

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Tue May 16, 2006 2:57 pm

Showtime! thread covers this, but it's very misleading, so I don't blame you for the repost

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Tue May 16, 2006 2:59 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:https://www.speedguide.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=200000

Arg....

koldchillah · Post by **koldchillah** » Tue May 16, 2006 3:09 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:https://www.speedguide.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=200000

thread # 200000.. EXACTLY.

hmmm... looks like a conspiracy if ya ask me.

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Tue May 16, 2006 3:27 pm

Site is still not loading! I bet that all this hype over the video will show nothing good or "new".

DV · Post by DV » Tue May 16, 2006 3:30 pm

Prey521 wrote:Site is still not loading! I bet that all this hype over the video will show nothing good or "new".

I can't get the video from any sources. My bet is Prey has launched several DOS attacks against the hosts to keep the truth from coming out.

SteelersFANinMA · Post by **SteelersFANinMA** » Tue May 16, 2006 3:42 pm

Click the, "Watch Video" link under the picture:

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060516130609990009&ncid=NWS00010000000001

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue May 16, 2006 3:45 pm

Oh my God, are they SERIOUS?

Does the white object coming in from the right side of the screen look like a HUGE COMMERCIAL AIRLINER?

Hell no, it looks like a damned missile.

SteelersFANinMA · Post by **SteelersFANinMA** » Tue May 16, 2006 3:47 pm

Burke wrote:Oh my God, are they SERIOUS?

Does the white object coming in from the right side of the screen look like a HUGE COMMERCIAL AIRLINER?

Hell no, it looks like a damned missile.

LOL, that would have to be one hell of a landing.

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue May 16, 2006 3:55 pm

SteelersFANinMA wrote:LOL, that would have to be one hell of a landing.

Even considering perspective and distance and the fisheye lens of the camera...I mean, how in the world can ANYONE think THAT is a commercial airliner? Skittering along inches above the ground at hundreds of miles an hour without a skip or jerk?

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue May 16, 2006 3:57 pm

Burke wrote:Even considering perspective and distance and the fisheye lens of the camera...I mean, how in the world can ANYONE think THAT is a commercial airliner? Skittering along inches above the ground at hundreds of miles an hour without a skip or jerk?

What airplane is it suppose to be?

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:03 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:What airplane is it suppose to be?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_757

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:03 pm

If it were a missle, then it would probably be (or something very simialr) to a Tomahawk cruise missle which is just over 6 meters long and .5 meters in width. It's so obvious the object in the video is so much larger.

Must be the "super-secret" 70 meter long conspiricy missle

koldchillah · Post by **koldchillah** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:04 pm

So THIS is what's supposed to quell the conspiracy theorists?

I've paused the few frames where the miss... I mean, missing airliner supposedly flew by and I gotta tell ya, it don't look right.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:05 pm

finally ok now 9/11 conspirators can stop...

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:07 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:finally ok now 9/11 conspirators can stop...

You are so deluded it's impossible to fathom.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:08 pm

that is obviously a plane....not a missile

your also forgetting what kind of camera we are watching this from

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:11 pm

..and what sort of payload did this conspiricy missle carry? JP4 perhaps? The damage caused was from an impact and fuel. If it were a missle, I bet there would have been much more carnage.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:12 pm

if you take a screenshot and zoom you can see the back tail...do missiles have tails like planes?

if they were going to fake it...could have done a much better job

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:16 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:that is obviously a plane....not a missile

your also forgetting what kind of camera we are watching this from

It doesnt look like a 757

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:17 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:It doesnt look like a 757

moving way too fast and the camera is not great quality to tell exactly what kind but it obviously a plane and not a missile

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:17 pm

bigmo66 wrote:..and what sort of payload did this conspiricy missle carry? JP4 perhaps? The damage caused was from an impact and fuel. If it were a missle, I bet there would have been much more carnage.

An empty missle? maybe a smaller plane wuith no passengers and teh the people on teh 757 have been offered to aliens to protect the earth from an invasion!

SteelersFANinMA · Post by **SteelersFANinMA** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:19 pm

Not all conspiracy theories on the Pentagon attack insist that it was a missile that hit the building. Some suggest that it was a smaller plane, military jet or anything other than Flight 77.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:19 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:moving way too fast and the camera is not great quality to tell exactly what kind but it obviously a plane and not a missile

Unless they dressed up the missle to look like a plane!

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:20 pm

btw cnn has a much better video then AOL

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:26 pm

SteelersFANinMA wrote:Not all conspiracy theories on the Pentagon attack insist that it was a missile that hit the building. Some suggest that it was a smaller plane, military jet or anything other than Flight 77.

Hmm, this picture was taken moments before the attack. Great timing for GW and Cheney to jump off at the last second!

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:29 pm

no matter what people think of the video there were hundreds who actually saw the plane hit...so i guess they are in the conspiracy as well..

know why i dont beleive there is a huge conspiracy..govt cant even get evidence right to prove there were WMD in Iraq..you think they can pull this off? LOL

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:33 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:know why i dont beleive there is a huge conspiracy..govt cant even get evidence right to prove there were WMD in Iraq..you think they can pull this off? LOL

Did bush write that for you?

They could pull this off easy, outsource the job to India

AAF Striker · Post by **AAF Striker** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:34 pm

Hmm ... 1 crappy security booth video (technically 2) ... now what about the other videos from the hotel and gas station???

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:35 pm

bigmo66 wrote:Hmm, this picture was taken moments before the attack. Great timing for GW and Cheney to jump off at the last second!

I think Dick was still on it when it hit.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:35 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:Did bush write that for you?

They could pull this off easy, outsource the job to India

LMAO

just saying if this was all planted...why wouldnt they just say Saddam was behind it instead of Bin laden? Why bother with afghanistan in first place...

our govt cant figure out what is up and what is down..let alone put together some massive conspiracy with no leaks..LOL

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:48 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:if you take a screenshot and zoom you can see the back tail...do missiles have tails like planes?

if they were going to fake it...could have done a much better job

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Tue May 16, 2006 5:03 pm

would not a cruise missile go much faster like 1000mph and do heck a lot more damage then a plane only going 350 mph?

If people actually saw the plane do you think they be able to see a missile going that fast?

there are tons more like this of accounts are these people making it up?

http://www.coping.org/911/survivor/pentagon.htm

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Tue May 16, 2006 5:18 pm

http://www.kfoxtv.com/video/9225749/index.html

another link to the video, one thing to remember here, that video is like 1 frame per half second frame rate, a bit different from normal video which is 30FPS, kinda hard to really tell what we are seeing here.

jz82 · Post by **jz82** » Tue May 16, 2006 5:20 pm

Cruise missiles can go sub-sonic, but that's not the issue.

I do believe a plane hit the Pentagon. People who doubt this overlook eye witness accounts and cherry pick images. The issue is the following...

- Why was the plane allowed to fly from Ohio/West Virginia border to D.C. after the WTC's were hit?
- Andrews AFB is ~10 miles from the Pentagon, why didn't they scramble fighters to protect D.C.?
- What are the odds the plane would hit the one section of the Pentagon being renovated? Mathematically, it's 20%, but the renovation was public knowledge, meaning anyone studying their target would identify the best place to hit. The opposite side had all the Pentagon's top brass.
- Would someone behind the controls of a 757 for the first time have the ability to fly a few feet off the ground at several hundred mph? I'd say it's unlikely.

My personal belief is that the plane was being remotely guided or on automation. I wouldn't be surprised if another possibility turned out to be true, but this was a one time event and the events point me towards that direction.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue May 16, 2006 5:23 pm

Mark wrote:kinda hard to really tell what we are seeing here.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Tue May 16, 2006 5:27 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:

WTH is that thing ?

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Tue May 16, 2006 5:30 pm

looks like a flying bathtub? LOL

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue May 16, 2006 5:31 pm

Mark wrote:WTH is that thing ?

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... f%26sa%3DN