Do you Americans ever wonder wtf is...

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:44 am

going on with your politics in this day and age? As an outsider the political wars are just outta hand, I mean it's beyond ridiculous with the turds both throwing back and forth. Even Nader is off the charts. With all the polls and non truth between the two (or 3), how the hell can you guys honestly decide?

I'm liberal at heart and from Canada, what I see from your politics just blows my mind. There is no way of knowing the real truth, so why even vote? Where is amongst the most powerful nation in the world, truth? Where is it? Where is the overwhelming demand for it by the American people?

It's like you people vote on lies and manipulation at this point. It just blows my mind.

How can both major parties declare the absolute opposite on jobs. Where is the watch dog that simply reports the truth?

golfnintendoboy · Post by **golfnintendoboy** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:48 am

why do you think i'm registered independent?

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:01 am

[quote="golfnintendoboy"]why do you think i'm registered independent? ]

Ya but wtf is going on over there? Where are the intellectuals, the think tanks, the informed?

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:25 am

sitosterol wrote: Ya but wtf is going on over there? Where are the intellectuals, the think tanks, the informed?

protesting in the streets?

sito · Post by **sito** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:32 am

CiscoKid wrote:protesting in the streets?

At least a public outcry. Honestly man, if your so against communism and certainly posess the civil rights to show your the free people of the world is that your only alternative?

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:06 am

pretty much Sit. but protesting has become more "Trendy" as compared to the anti-war and civil rights movements of the 60's and 70's

saved · Post by **saved** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:14 am

sitosterol wrote:going on with your politics in this day and age? As an outsider the political wars are just outta hand, I mean it's beyond ridiculous with the turds both throwing back and forth. Even Nader is off the charts. With all the polls and non truth between the two (or 3), how the hell can you guys honestly decide?

I'm liberal at heart and from Canada, what I see from your politics just blows my mind. There is no way of knowing the real truth, so why even vote? Where is amongst the most powerful nation in the world, truth? Where is it? Where is the overwhelming demand for it by the American people?

It's like you people vote on lies and manipulation at this point. It just blows my mind.

How can both major parties declare the absolute opposite on jobs. Where is the watch dog that simply reports the truth?

I would have to agree and the reason that we have fallen so far is beacuse of the liberals and non Christians. If this nation will repent and turn to God it would be greta again, but what we are seeing is God's judgement and the fall of this nation. However unless we do we will be like Canada, a godless and fallen nation without any greatness and sadly we will be even worse.

SRF01 · Post by **SRF01** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:29 am

However unless we do we will be like Canada, a godless and fallen nation without any greatness and sadly we will be even worse.

WTF!?! Man you are seriousely warped.

drdoug99 · Post by **drdoug99** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:08 am

saved wrote:However unless we do we will be like Canada, a godless and fallen nation without any greatness and sadly we will be even worse.

why are they a sad and fallen nation? pretty harsh thing to say.

anyway...I was watching John Kerry today, since he was at the university of toledo....here's how he will help out nation if he wins.

"The red sox won the game yeserday, baseball is our national pastime, it's a great thing"

"George Bush wasn't in Vietnam like I was, I know what it's like to fight"

"when I'm president, I"ll come back to ohio, and make sure Ohio's jobs get better, i'm going to talk to the leaders and work together with them for new jobs..."

those aren't exact quotes, but I was sitting there listening....thinking to myself, WTF does any of this crap have to do with current issues and things of our country? Who gives a damn about baseball? Who cares about GW Bush or you and your vietnam days?

he was talking hot air the whole time...I want to hear factual things of how you will help our country as a professional...not a damn speech like a High school pep rally! that's all these speeches and crap are...a meaningless pep rally that you wish you didn't have to sit through because you know they are boring and pointless!!!

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:35 am

It's pretty simple to decide really. I go to each candidate's website and read about their views on issues. I take the info straight from the candidate. If they end up lying about it after the fact then shame on them. If I choose to get my info solely from somewhere else without taking info from the candidate themselves then shame on me.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:07 am

sitosterol wrote: Do you Americans ever wonder wtf is...
going on with your politics in this day and age? As an outsider the political wars are just outta hand, I mean it's beyond ridiculous with the turds both throwing back and forth. Even Nader is off the charts. With all the polls and non truth between the two (or 3), how the hell can you guys honestly decide?

It's simple. I don't make politics my primary daily focus for living. Doesn't even get 2nd place attention. Or 3rd place. Heck...not even 100th place. etc etc

Displaces good TV shows I wish to watch

Litters the neighborhood with rediculous election signs and banners and flags and stickers, looks like a trashy carnival came through town.

I couldn't even describe your government up there in Canada...but no matter what it iss, something tells me I'd still like Canada and its people.

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:20 am

SRF01 wrote:WTF!?! Man you are seriousely warped.

Dude he's just an internet troll...place him on ignore and just keep giving him negative reps like I do. Hes not worth the effort. Maybe he will just crawl back under his bridge.

Pie

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:42 am

I cant believe this guy is saying Canada is godless and fallen....most of us Americans dont think like him my fellow canuck friends

Dont let him piss ya off.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:53 am

Truth is speedguide is the only place I discuss politics and i do it for fun I dont take it serious most times.

I read the paper usually everyday..then discuss things here, and that it. I rarely watch the news at home unless something big.

I really get annoyed at the people in the streets trying to get us to vote for kerry...and hand out literature..i just throw it on the floor...and watch them pick it up..that is always hilarious

mountainman · Post by **mountainman** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:32 am

FYI... I would estimate 99% of the people really have chosen before all the turd throwing even started. I know they say all these people are "undecided", but I don't buy it.

I have never met a person that said a debate/commercial/speech/etc has ever swayed their vote or made them FINALLY decide who to vote for.

And as you said, you're an outsider, how the hell do you even know what's going on? From here?

mountainman · Post by **mountainman** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:33 am

thepieman wrote:Dude he's just an internet troll...place him on ignore and just keep giving him negative reps like I do. Hes not worth the effort. Maybe he will just crawl back under his bridge.

Pie

I like trolls. They look funny and smell like rotten cabbage.

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:03 pm

Saved-

Once again, that JUDGEMENTAL tone in yer posts. What is it that makes yer opinion so all-mighty? Canada a god-less country? Whatever.

You need to think about this whole pattern of casting judgements. It would be one thing if yer opinios were backed by law, but as it stands yer perch only stands on the faith you believe in. I'm sure you feel very strongly about your faith, kudos...also keep in mind that others faith may be just as strong as yers AND might not mesh with your beliefs. How would you feel if a Hindu person came along and began ragin on yer country as godless and vile? Think about it next time you decide to take on the responsibility as the moral compass for humanity.

Crabtoes · Post by **Crabtoes** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:12 pm

brembo a thinking man....i never knew

Blisster · Post by **Blisster** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:15 pm

saved wrote:I would have to agree and the reason that we have fallen so far is beacuse of the liberals and non Christians. If this nation will repent and turn to God it would be greta again, but what we are seeing is God's judgement and the fall of this nation. However unless we do we will be like Canada, a godless and fallen nation without any greatness and sadly we will be even worse.

fvck you

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:15 pm

brembo wrote:Saved-

Once again, that JUDGEMENTAL tone in yer posts. What is it that makes yer opinion so all-mighty? Canada a god-less country? Whatever.

You need to think about this whole pattern of casting judgements. It would be one thing if yer opinios were backed by law, but as it stands yer perch only stands on the faith you believe in. I'm sure you feel very strongly about your faith, kudos...also keep in mind that others faith may be just as strong as yers AND might not mesh with your beliefs. How would you feel if a Hindu person came along and began ragin on yer country as godless and vile? Think about it next time you decide to take on the responsibility as the moral compass for humanity.

I agree with the idiot...

Sacrey, I know...but this idiot sure is smart!

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:18 pm

Crabtoes wrote:brembo a thinking man....i never knew

Sometimes the oxygen makes it into my brain....kinda hurts so I try and not let it happen alot.

mountainman · Post by **mountainman** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:24 pm

brembo wrote:How would you feel if a Hindu person came along and began ragin on yer country as godless and vile?

Yeah, or Muslims for that matter.

Oh wait... they already do and tell us about it everything (and every now again with neck slashings).

Good point/post, Brembo.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:25 pm

saved wrote:I would have to agree and the reason that we have fallen so far is beacuse of the liberals and non Christians.

I think its the hoilier than thou religous nuts and extremists that can't understand that the bible and constitution are 2 separate things, or that feel we all need to live under the bible's rules.

Mutch · Post by **Mutch** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:38 pm

saved wrote:However unless we do we will be like Canada, a godless and fallen nation without any greatness and sadly we will be even worse.

No greatness? Go choke on a dick

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:40 pm

how does saved get away with not being banned for attacking people?

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:42 pm

saved wrote:However unless we do we will be like Canada, a godless and fallen nation without any greatness and sadly we will be even worse.

I like Canada

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:44 pm

brembo wrote:Saved-

Once again, that JUDGEMENTAL tone in yer posts. What is it that makes yer opinion so all-mighty? Canada a god-less country? Whatever.

You need to think about this whole pattern of casting judgements.

he sounds like i did a few years ago

i'd like to think i've matured

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:45 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:how does saved get away with not being banned for attacking people?

Well we dont make it easier for staff to do it when in response to saved we say "fvck you" and "go choke on a dick."

No offense Blisster or Mutch, but that stuff does kinda make it harder to do.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:47 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:how does saved get away with not being banned for attacking people?

Good question

Ignoring (not replying) to his ignorant posts will in effect do the same thing anyway.

Bouncer · Post by **Bouncer** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:47 pm

Because he very carefully didn't. He attacked a nation. Not an individual.

In the same way people saying "America sucks!" haven't been banned for that.

He's taking advantage of a loophole in the rules. What he fails to undertsand is that this isn't a technical game. Intent counts. And I am, as of right now, working on getting him perma-banned by account and IP.

Regards,
-Bouncer-

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:48 pm

Roody wrote:Well we dont make it easier for staff to do it when in response to saved we say "fvck you" and "go choke on a dick."

Can we still say that to Brembo?

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:49 pm

Jim wrote:Can we still say that to Brembo?

oh sure Brembo is fine. Go get him.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:51 pm

Brembo is a Dos lover in disguise

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:52 pm

Bouncer wrote:Because he very carefully didn't. He attacked a nation. Not an individual.

In the same way people saying "America sucks!" haven't been banned for that.

He's taking advantage of a loophole in the rules. What he fails to undertsand is that this isn't a technical game. Intent counts. And I am, as of right now, working on getting him perma-banned by account and IP.

Regards,
-Bouncer-

I respect your alls decision in the matter.

Personally I don't want to see him banned though

I just think that if people don't like someones post just ignore it and dont reply to it.

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:55 pm

Brent wrote:I just think that if people don't like someones post just ignore it and dont reply to it.

How far do we take that then?

Would your opinion on this matter change at all if somebody posted almost nothing but "Christians are EVIL!!1" rants about 98% of the time?

Blisster · Post by **Blisster** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:57 pm

sorry, but he just pisses me off, and really serves no purpose on the boards here. He's never helped with any technical issues that I can see, and all he does is cast judgement and stir up flame wars in hot-topics.

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:02 pm

wee96 wrote:I cant believe this guy is saying Canada is godless and fallen....most of us Americans dont think like him my fellow canuck friends Dont let him piss ya off.

he cant,he is not worth it

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:03 pm

Blisster wrote:really serves no purpose on the boards here. He's never helped with any technical issues that I can see, and all he does is cast judgement and stir up flame wars in hot-topics.

mountainman · Post by **mountainman** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:19 pm

rivas wrote:

cho · Post by **cho** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:36 pm

saved wrote:However unless we do we will be like Canada, a godless and fallen nation without any greatness and sadly we will be even worse.

Wow...I'm glad to see your a real history buff...