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Zmoney · Post by **Zmoney** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 12:40 am

man iam watchin this show on fox about how the Apallo moon missions being a fake....those were the misssions to the moon....iam hella convinced it waz a fake by our goverment to beat the Soviet union.....man they have some good proof that it waz a fake.....anyone else seing this?

Heaven_No · Post by **Heaven_No** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 12:45 am

Originally posted by Zmoney:
man iam watchin this show on fox about how the Apallo moon missions being a fake....those were the misssions to the moon....iam hella convinced it waz a fake by our goverment to beat the Soviet union.....man they have some good proof that it waz a fake.....anyone else seing this?

I missed the show, but I have heard some pretty convincing stories. Not to beat the Russians though, it was to funnel money into other clandestine projects

What then say you of the unmanned planetary missions? Mars, Jupiter, and the outer planets?

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EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 12:45 am

Creepy stuff.. Still watching it..

What a blow to NASA

Easto · Post by **Easto** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 12:47 am

I got more important things to worry about. Turn the TV off and read a book.

Zmoney · Post by **Zmoney** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 12:49 am

hey easto thats what they want you do to man....fight the power....lol....man tho this show is givin me some bad vibes about the gov and shizzi... but iam not seing nasa's side of the story so i dont wanna form a opinion yet but so far iam thinkin that it waz a hoax...

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 12:50 am

Originally posted by Easto:
I got more important things to worry about. Turn the TV off and read a book.

What the hell is a book?

Zmoney · Post by **Zmoney** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 12:52 am

not a nazi but they had a good idea....BURN ALL THE BOOKZ...

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:02 am

WHy would that info be so late to get to us? 1969 went to moon?

From what the show is saying that no-one has ever went past the radiation zone but yet, the moon is on the outer side of the radiatione zone..

I dont beleive that we went to the Moon after seeing this show!

All the damn pictures and videos of the Apollo Landing were all DOCTORED UP! **** I hate that s***

Zmoney · Post by **Zmoney** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:10 am

what a joke...this stuff angers me

mikemean · Post by **mikemean** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:19 am

Not everything is a hoax. I did not see the show, but from what I have seen in the past years, it all looked real to me.

fanta · Post by **fanta** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:27 am

hmm you guys got me curious.
I'm watching the show right now...I'll post thoughts when its over...

FunK · Post by **FunK** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:35 am

Hell yeah it was a HOAX! They did it so that Americans would continue to pour Billions into the space program!
Anyone can see that.

The same way, when they had TOO MUCH MONEY, They:

1, Faked the Challenger Disaster
2, Faked the Hubble Fiasco
3, Faked the Apollo 13 Mission
4, Lost that little robot on Mars.
5, Faked the guys dying in the fire.

Etc Etc Etc
Oh yeah, NASA is all about faking things.
They only care about more money, that is why they were scraping the bottom of the barrel there for a while after a few mishaps.

Leave it to some ******* to try and discredit one of the Nation's (and World's) Greatest Accomplishments.

Shame on them for trying to get famous by doing what they are doing.

They should have done a special on Jesse Jackson (speaking of FAKE)

Peace,
FunK

FunK · Post by **FunK** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:37 am

I'll bet money that the producers are from the jerry ****ing springer show.

fanta · Post by **fanta** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:41 am

Ok all I can say is DAMN YOU NASA
Sheesh, what a shame

Doctored pics... Same backgrounds used, unexplained lighting...sheesh the list goes on and on!!!
I feel bad for all of you older guys, watching a possible load of BS in 1969.
Gotta go the show's still on...

jayyy · Post by **jayyy** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 4:09 am

Take a deep breath, everybody. This is the same network that brought us "Alien Autopsy" a few years back. Funny how the government is supposed to have been secretly in contact with aliens since the '40's, but the same TV producers now want us to believe we ourselves haven't reached the moon.

Me, I prefer not to get my news from the good folks that brought us "Temptation Island" and "Surprise Weddings". Next up on Fox: When Animals Attack!

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 9:02 am

ROTFLMAO...

I suppose the third brightest object in the night sky isn't the new space station.

Let's see. We'll just spend the NASA budget on bribes to keep everyone quiet. All you engineers that have these great degrees, your work is worthless. Your lives at NASA are meaningless. And to top it off, you can't tell anyone either because, what?, NASA will eradicate your family?

ROTF

It's pretty hard for one person to keep a secret. Let alone thousands.

However, look at the money FOX is making. Now that's entertainment folks!

striderf1 · Post by **striderf1** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 9:31 am

has anyone ever thought that maybee fox changed some of these things for their tv show? maybee they changed the shadows on the real pics or changed the background on the video (these things wouldn't be hard at all with proggies like photoshop). I didn't see the show, but as they say, "ignorance is bliss", and I'm just not going to buy into the crap that nasa is a huge fake, and the moon landing is a fake.

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 10:03 am

I don't want to beleive it and I'm not real sure that I do!(That we didn't go to the moon) It sure would have been a great way to distract the attention of the American people from parts of the Vietnam War though!

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messiah · Post by **messiah** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 10:09 am

Originally posted by downhill:
I suppose the third brightest object in the night sky isn't the new space station.

Strange. We were taught in school that the brightest star in the sky is the space station. If education is controlled by the government, why the typo? Where have you heard that the "third brightest" is the Space Station? (exclude the sun)

"about the show"
[*]that special is nonsense.
We have been to the moon. Where the hell does the space station go then? Cruz above the atmosphere for months?

silly.

jayyy · Post by **jayyy** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 10:19 am

Originally posted by blebs99:
I don't want to beleive it and I'm not real sure that I do! It sure would have been a great way to distract the attention of the American people from parts of the happenings of the Vietnam War though!
]

So would actually doing it!

We have been to the moon. Where the hell does the space station go then? Cruz above the atmosphere for months?

you got it. thats exactly what it does, and people are starting to get a little fed up with nasa and their massive funding. credible sources don't question the authenticity of nasa's work, but many now question it relevance in this day and age.

messiah · Post by **messiah** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 10:23 am

well that sucks! We drive to Houston to watch the sucker launch.

striderf1 · Post by **striderf1** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 10:34 am

whats up with all you guys? you are the most paranoid people I have ever talked to. to let a show on fox totaly convince you that nasa is bullsh*t is crazy. even if you don't believe that we landed on the moon, you have to believe in nasa and the space mission, because how else would you use cell phones, watch satellite tv, talk to people overseas (in some cases they use other methods, not satellites). but give me a break, there is no way nasa is a huge fake, or else we wouldn't have things like velcro (a nasa invension), and the huge satellite network that we have.

Banshee · Post by **Banshee** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 11:04 am

Well, then why was the amaerican flag waving in the video they showed? There is no air on the moon. How is it possible for the flag to be waving?

striderf1 · Post by **striderf1** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 11:17 am

Originally posted by Banshee:
Well, then why was the amaerican flag waving in the video they showed? There is no air on the moon. How is it possible for the flag to be waving?

just because their is no air on the moon doesn't mean that their can't be wind. as long as you have molecules, their will always be wind. by black holes, there are always huge swirls of dust being sucked into them, how could that be if their is no wind? there is always wind, reguardless of whether or not humans can breath the air or atmosphere.

Banshee · Post by **Banshee** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:16 pm

Hhhhmm... i guess your all right. Well, it IS Fox. hehe

But i dunno..

Did you see the part about the cross things on all the pictures? They are supposed to be on top of everything in the picture. But when they showed close-ups of the pictures, they were behind things. That shows evidence of doctored pictures.

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striderf1 · Post by **striderf1** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:18 pm

Originally posted by Banshee:
That shows evidence of doctored pictures.

did you ever think that maybee Fox themselves doctored the pics for the show? like you said, they ARE fox.

Banshee · Post by **Banshee** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:21 pm

Originally posted by striderf1:
did you ever think that maybee Fox themselves doctored the pics for the show? like you said, they ARE fox.

Hhhmm... yeah, it is possible. I would really like to get into Area 51 and see if they have the moon sets. lol

tup · Post by **tup** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:22 pm

The show was very convincing. What about the 15 astronauts and others who died from "freak" accidents?? I could believe the whole scenario except for the fact I don't think the gov't could organise and maintain a lie this elaborate!

jayyy · Post by **jayyy** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:25 pm

wasn't the landing broadcast live? if it was filmed on a soundstage made up to look like the moon, why would pics have to doctored in the first place? For what reason?

for example, say there was an apparent discrepency between the way a guy's leg appears standing next to a moon buggy. why wouldn't they just take a picture of a guy in a spacesuit standing next to a moon buggy?

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 3:55 pm

by messiah,

Strange. We were taught in school that the brightest star in the sky is the space station. If education is controlled by the government, why the typo? Where have you heard that the "third brightest" is the Space Station? (exclude the sun)

[Hummmmm....you must have went to the same school I went too.....thank god for newspapers,Omni magizine, Discover channel, the learning channel. nova, the newpapers, and

Speedguide

The Sun
The Moon
The Spacestation
[/list=a]

the Nasa story, is all dirbble. Unless hmmmm............come to think of it........when it comes to politics, there DOES seem to be something alien about it all.....

However as far as the THIRD brightest thing to us right now, I suppose I could be wrong since looking out my back door, the sun is shinning for once in a month and I'm probably bias.

Oh yeah, after rereading your post.....why would I exclude the sun? Isn't it a bright object? That's the reasoning behind my post.

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Zmoney · Post by **Zmoney** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 5:18 pm

for those of you who watched it i waz talking to a teacher and he made a good point about the shadows...see the earth puts out light right? so couldnt that cause some wierd shaddows...the biggest evedence for me is
A the corssarows ares screwie

and B how when a astronought is in the shadows you can see him very VERY clearly even when he is in a shadow. tru fox could of doctored the airows but the the ones with the lighting effects thoese are REAL.. i looked around and found em.....and also NASA had ****ty ass explaniations for stuff. they couldnt explaine anything.

at the end of the show a guy made a comment that if he could see a picture of a satalite or something looking at the moon and saw the remains of the appalo missions then he would believe it waz real...and i agree

Banshee · Post by **Banshee** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 5:21 pm

Originally posted by Zmoney:

and B how when a astronought is in the shadows you can see him very VERY clearly even when he is in a shadow.

Oh yeah, forgot about that part. They showed video of the astronaut getting out of the pod thing, he went right into the shadow of it, but he was lit up! I don't think Fox could have doctored that video.

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 5:24 pm

DAMN, I missed this show. Anyone know if/when it will Re-air?

Banshee · Post by **Banshee** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 5:27 pm

Originally posted by Prey521:
DAMN, I missed this show. Anyone know if/when it will Re-air?

I have never seen a re-run of a Fox special.

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 5:33 pm

Originally posted by Banshee:
I have never seen a re-run of a Fox special.

SH!T!!!!!!!!

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 5:52 pm

Originally posted by Ken:
Guys, think about what you are saying for a minute here....

Yes, the Earth does reflect light.
Do you think they had no source of light on the mission?
What color was their space suits?
What color reflects light the best?
Can you not see someone in white clothes at dusk or with semi light?

Don't you think the Russians were tracking our ships?
They would have loved to dispute this if it was false...
Don't you believe there is enough radars in the world that would catch them if they were merely circling the earth?
It would be IMPOSSIBLE to shut that many people up and not let something slip out before now.

I have said this many times. Television is one of our countries greatest problems, in more ways than I care to list...

Try thinking of TV the way it really is, something that comes from the imagination and has basically little truth and reality in it anymore...

You guys are sounding communist...

Pretty damn good point there Kenny.

Hahahaha, communist, now that's funny

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Fri Feb 16, 2001 5:59 pm

At any rate , that show was VERY convincing and and there were a grip of discrepencies in the explanation of all the missions...

As far as the astronaught being lite up while he was standing in the shadow... How do we know what effect space has on lighting? after all, the Moon has 2 light sorces right? Sun & earth? don't you think they would have broght there own lighting as well? so they could make sure that they get a Picture perfect shot?

I have no clue, we all could sit and debate over all the issues that were discusted but only NASA really knows..

jayyy · Post by **jayyy** » Sat Feb 17, 2001 12:07 am

yeah, the chief problem with that documentary is that they don't know what they're talking about. Try taking some photographs on moon- you can be damn sure the lighting and what not will differ from that of a picture taken on earth. I'd be more suspicious if it didn't.

jayyy · Post by **jayyy** » Sun Feb 18, 2001 9:45 am

Did some research on the "faked moon landing" theory. The chief proponents, upon whose "findings" the fox documentary are based, are Ralph Rene, author of "Nasa Mooned America" Bill Kaysing, and William L. Brian.

Prior to Fox, Keysing had brought his work to the attention of that bastion of journalistic integrity "The Weekly World News". You know, that black and white tabloid that features cover photos of martians shaking hands with bill clinton. Incidentally, Kaysing also claims that the US bribed the japanese to bomb pearl harbour so that the US guv't would have the people's support to join WWII. Why japan agreed to let japan drop an atomic bomb on them as part of the elaborate ruse, i don't know.

Rene's "scientific" refutation of the moon landing involved trying to crawl out from under his own kitchen table, the gap under which he estimated to be as big as that of the one on the "undersized" door to the moon shuttle. Remember NASA's argument that you couldn't see the stars in the background because the light reflecting off the surface of the moon glared them out of sight? Rene "refuted" this by staring at a street light, and then quickly at the night sky, to see if he could still see the stars. His second book questions aspects of newtonian physics, and "tears to pieces" Einstein's Theory of Relativity. He also claims that the ice-age never happened, and that the moon is not responsible for the tides. it appears that his belief that the moon landing was faked is actually due to the fact that the incident would disprove his theories about physics.

Brian, the man who cited the slight billowing of the starched american flag as "wind", is the worst. He does indeed believe that NASA reached the moon, but that their portrayal of it was fake. the moon is actually a pleasant place, he claims, with a "saffron-colored sky," vegetation and animal life in certain temperate zones, snowcapped mountains covered with timber, lakes, rivers, alien "communities of varying sizes" and most certainly an anti-gravity monorail. Brian feels that the US would be better off not trifling with the aliens that inhabit it."The militarists will eventually meet their match in outer space," He warns.

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striderf1 · Post by **striderf1** » Sun Feb 18, 2001 11:08 am

Originally posted by jayyy:
Did some research on the "faked moon landing" theory. The chief proponents, upon whose "findings" the fox documentary are based, are Ralph Rene, author of "Nasa Mooned America" Bill Kaysing, and William L. Brian.

Prior to Fox, Keysing had brought his work to the attention of that bastion of journalistic integrity "The Weekly World News". You know, that black and white tabloid that features cover photos of martians shaking hands with bill clinton. Incidentally, Kaysing also claims that the US bribed the japanese to bomb pearl harbour so that the US guv't would have the people's support to join WWII. Why japan agreed to let japan drop an atomic bomb on them as part of the elaborate ruse, i don't know.

Rene's "scientific" refutation of the moon landing involved trying to crawl out from under his own kitchen table, the gap under which he estimated to be as big as that of the one on the "undersized" door to the moon shuttle. Remember NASA's argument that you couldn't see the stars in the background because the light reflecting off the surface of the moon glared them out of sight? Rene "refuted" this by staring at a street light, and then quickly at the night sky, to see if he could still see the stars. His second book is a questions aspects of newtonian physics, and "tears to pieces" Einstein's Theory of Relativity. An interesting read, I'm sure.

Brian, the man who cited the slight billowing of the starched american flag as "wind", does indeed believe that NASA reached the moon, but that their portrayal of it was fake. the moon is actually, you see a pleasant place, with a "saffron-colored sky," vegetation and animal life in certain temperate zones, snowcapped mountains covered with timber, lakes, rivers, alien "communities of varying sizes" and most certainly an anti-gravity monorail. Brian feels that the US would be better off not trifling with the aliens that inhabit it."The militarists will eventually meet their match in outer space," He warns.

aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhahahahhahhahahaha that is freakin hilarious!!! I think that guy belongs in a ward, and not having his books on tv