Online churches...

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Thu May 20, 2004 1:12 am

Takes away from the entire purpose of fellowship I think

64bit · Post by **64bit** » Thu May 20, 2004 1:32 am

linkages

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Thu May 20, 2004 1:45 am

No links, I just hear them discuss it on the radio

64bit · Post by **64bit** » Thu May 20, 2004 1:47 am

Well I agree. One of the main points of religion i thought is gathering with yo peeps and throwin down for the lord and you really cant do that being a Eparishioner

vinnie · Post by **vinnie** » Thu May 20, 2004 2:07 am

Can't be worse then the last church I attended. The wonderful loving christians stopped talking to me and shunned me becasue my partner isn't a christian in name.

However, I have faith in god and christ, not in any particular church, so I simply don't attend there anymore. Many a person who's gone before me has lost faith as a result of such shennanigans.

How can any kind of fellowship be worse than that I wonder?

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Thu May 20, 2004 2:15 am

vinnie wrote:Can't be worse then the last church I attended. The wonderful loving christians stopped talking to me and shunned me becasue my partner isn't a christian in name.

However, I have faith in god and christ, not in any particular church, so I simply don't attend there anymore. Many a person who's gone before me has lost faith as a result of such shennanigans.

How can any kind of fellowship be worse than that I wonder?

Your "partner"? A "Christian in name"? And God and Christ should be capitalized...

vinnie · Post by **vinnie** » Thu May 20, 2004 2:22 am

Burke wrote:Your "partner"? A "Christian in name"? And God and Christ should be capitalized...

No, I'm not having sex with them, it's okay. They believe in christ and in god, pray often and live a suitable life, that's christian enough for me. God and christ will be capitalised when and where I so desire- for example at the start of a sentence. My faith is in no way related to the capitalisation of names and titles.

But of course, you're entitled to say otherwise and all the non believers will point at you and laugh merrily at christians. Tommorow the sun will still rise, I'll still have my faith and you can be content in the knowledge that you stomped all over a faithful person because they didn't capitalise god and christ when you saw fit. God would be proud of you

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Thu May 20, 2004 2:29 am

vinnie wrote:No, I'm not having sex with them, it's okay. They believe in christ and in god, pray often and live a suitable life, that's christian enough for me. God and christ will be capitalised when and where I so desire- for example at the start of a sentence. My faith is in no way related to the capitalisation of names and titles.

But of course, you're entitled to say otherwise and all the non believers will point at you and laugh merrily at christians. Tommorow the sun will still rise, I'll still have my faith and you can be content in the knowledge that you stomped all over a faithful person because they didn't capitalise god and christ when you saw fit. God would be proud of you

Hostile much? You act as if I am attacking your faith because of my questions and statements. The two quotations were vague. I was asking for clarification.

New Testament Christianity, to the letter, period. Anything else is useless.

Capitalization is out of reverence to God. And the sun may not rise.

incrediblecain · Post by **incrediblecain** » Thu May 20, 2004 2:39 am

I happen to be for online churches, religion is basically a good thing, but religion doesn't make people quit church, people do. I would say most churches are plagued with part-time christians. These hypocritical although rightly intentioned are by far the most Vile of God's creatures. In this way, I am for an online chuch it allows for communion with fellow believers without the sickening piety and pompousness that so often pollute and disenfranchise its members.I do have a christian belief system, but do not consider myself a christian, I am honest enough with myself to know that I have issues with the church going community and my own veiws on commitment and truth which is why I don't go to church but have considered going to an online one.

g-c0de · Post by **g-c0de** » Thu May 20, 2004 4:40 am

Burke wrote:Takes away from the entire purpose of fellowship I think

I totally agree.

vinnie · Post by **vinnie** » Thu May 20, 2004 5:02 am

Burke wrote:Hostile much? You act as if I am attacking your faith because of my questions and statements. The two quotations were vague. I was asking for clarification.

New Testament Christianity, to the letter, period. Anything else is useless.

Capitalization is out of reverence to God. And the sun may not rise.

Where does it say in the 'letter' of the new testament that I need capitalise god or christ? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Ancient Hebrew doesn't have capitals. They don't even have vowels like english, shld w typ lk ths nd tlk bt gd nd chrst lk ths?

Correct me too if I'm wrong on this, but given god created the sun and associated paraphenalia, would not it be logical that as long as isn't interested in another course of action that doesn't involve humanity, the earth will continue to rotate and so too will the sun continue to go through fusion and resulting the sun rise? I've got faith that god would let us know before he alters this process.

Vague? I don't get much in the way of vagueness there. What do you think partner means? That's I'm currently have vigourous anal sex with my uncle or something?

Anyhow, you've made your point, well done, now everyone thinks better of christians... right? Surely, it's not like the general masses could look down on us much more than they already do

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Thu May 20, 2004 5:36 am

Burke wrote:Takes away from the entire purpose of fellowship I think

For the most part I agree. Obviously IMO any kind of church attendance is better then nothing, but they do miss alot by not being there in person.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu May 20, 2004 9:15 am

vinnie wrote:No, I'm not having sex with them, it's okay. They believe in christ and in god, pray often and live a suitable life, that's christian enough for me. God and christ will be capitalised when and where I so desire- for example at the start of a sentence. My faith is in no way related to the capitalisation of names and titles.

But of course, you're entitled to say otherwise and all the non believers will point at you and laugh merrily at christians. Tommorow the sun will still rise, I'll still have my faith and you can be content in the knowledge that you stomped all over a faithful person because they didn't capitalise god and christ when you saw fit. God would be proud of you

dont listen to him..for someone who preaches grammar about God so much he uses a lot of foul language to express himself....hmm makes a lot of sense.

Jamie_R · Post by **Jamie_R** » Thu May 20, 2004 9:17 am

Roody wrote:For the most part I agree. Obviously IMO any kind of church attendance is better then nothing, but they do miss alot by not being there in person.

Cypher · Post by **Cypher** » Thu May 20, 2004 11:15 am

vinnie wrote: God would be proud of you

That's funny Vin because I say that to allot of people including myself at times.

I'm not an advocate of the online church concept myself.
I think the Bible does say that wherever people gather in my name I'll be there. Something along those lines.
Either way who am I to judge?

Blisster · Post by **Blisster** » Thu May 20, 2004 11:19 am

I love this thread

fastchevy · Post by **fastchevy** » Thu May 20, 2004 11:28 am

Sure why not. I don't go to church, so for others like me maybe they'll pay a visit online....

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu May 20, 2004 11:29 am

I found an article that Satan goes to online churches:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/0 ... index.html

i also find the name of the church kind of funny:

Church of Fools

Blisster · Post by **Blisster** » Thu May 20, 2004 11:33 am

Ghosthunter wrote:I found an article that Satan goes to online churches:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/05/19/cyber.church.ap/index.html

i also find the name of the church kind of funny:

Cypher · Post by **Cypher** » Thu May 20, 2004 1:25 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:I found an article that Satan goes to online churches:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/0 ... index.html

i also find the name of the church kind of funny:

I guess the devil comes in many forms including virtual ones.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Thu May 20, 2004 1:40 pm

Burke wrote:Takes away from the entire purpose of fellowship I think

agreed

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu May 20, 2004 1:58 pm

I'm with Burke on this one.....to catch some sermons online is not bad in itself, but when you use that as your only form of receiving the Word, and totally excluding yourself from fellowshipping with the congregation, then there's something wrong with it.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu May 20, 2004 1:59 pm

Prey521 wrote:I'm with Burke on this one.....to catch some sermons online is not bad in itself, but when you use that as your only form of receiving the Word, and totally excluding yourself from fellowshipping with the congregation, then there's something wrong with it.

why do you need Church? Why not just talk to God, you dont need a church online or offline to hear the word of God.

mattkim · Post by **mattkim** » Thu May 20, 2004 6:04 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:why do you need Church? Why not just talk to God, you dont need a church online or offline to hear the word of God.

I disagree. First of all, if you do not go to church, what is your motivation to really intentively pray by yourself and connect with God. We come to church as a community to celebrate and become closer with God. We also come to church to help better ourselves. So that somehow we will learn how to live a better life. We also go to church to recieve the Good News. To learn about Jesus and to listen to what Jesus preached to us years ago. Yeah i know you can just read the Bible. But tell me... If you're so lazy that you cant give God just 1 hour of your sabbath day, are you really are going to read the whole bible? You must be a great man.

Regarding the first post. Online churches are not a bad idea. Use it to recieve the Word of God. Learn about the faith. But you should also go to church at the same time. Church is little without the community. And those people who don't come to church because of the people. That doesn't mean you should stop going to church. I know the people are doing wrong things, but that doesnt mean the church's teachings are bad. You should make a real good effort to come to church for God and for yourself. remember, do not judge people's intentions, or you will be judged with the same ruler... do not condemn others, or you will be condemned by God.

Oh yeah it also depeneds what Christian you are...
Are you Catholic or Portestant? Im Catholic

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Thu May 20, 2004 6:13 pm

I'll be blunt here,

Religion/spritituality...etc is a persons choice. It's based on faith, requires faith and prospers with faith. No one, NOBODY is in any position to judge how or when or why you choose except the deity that yer worshiping. Not the pope, not the Dali-Lama(sp?), not one living breathing soul can say yea or nay as to how it's *properly* done.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu May 20, 2004 6:17 pm

mattkim wrote: You must be a great man.

Thank you I know I am because God told me and did not need a church for that

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Thu May 20, 2004 6:21 pm

Stigmata the movie.

Look under a stone....

Come on you guys you know the rest.

g-c0de · Post by **g-c0de** » Thu May 20, 2004 6:26 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:why do you need Church? Why not just talk to God, you dont need a church online or offline to hear the word of God.

Reasons for going to church totally depends on what faith and belief you have.

In the Christian faith, going to church is a good way to fellowship, worship God, provoke each other unto good works, listen to the teaching and preaching of the word of God, partake of communion etc.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu May 20, 2004 6:28 pm

2 pages, damn, who cares