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ColdFusion · Post by **ColdFusion** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 3:16 am

ah i need to rant and i think this is the best place to do it.

my mom latley has been the biggest bitch ever. like its not even bearable anymore. Im taking a lifeguarding course and this girl and i are on the phone for less than 2 hrs planning our project and my mom starts freaking out at me for being on the phone too long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what the hell ? im 17 ****in years old. just the other day i was going to see lotr with my soon to be gf, so i put a blanket in my because she gets easily cold .. just as a friendly jesture right ..., my mom yelled at me the whole way there on how it was "too suggestive" to bring a blanket for us .. as far as shes concerned though were still friends. i swear im gonna ****in flip out if she doesnt stop running my life ... IM 17 AND SHE WONT LET ME DATE!! WHAT THE HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! she like literally doesnt sleep worrying that i might kiss a girl or some **** like that!!! i kissed a girl in grade 5 for **** sakes!!!! oh my god i cant take it anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 3:20 am

life sux..

get your own place and you wont have to deal with all of that

mom is concerned I guess....sounds like overly concerned to me but what can you do about it ?

ColdFusion · Post by **ColdFusion** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 3:25 am

ya im only 17 though .. in our arguement she suggested suitcases!!! wtf ... it would break her heart if i moved out so why does she even suggest it ? why cant she understand that im just trying to grow up and live my life!!!!!!

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 3:26 am

Don't like the rules of the house? Then move out and do things on your own, if you believe you are responsible and mature enough to do so.

You may think your parents are being too strict (and they may or may not be, that's not for me to decide), but they're obviously just trying to look out for you, and you know it. They provide far more than a place to go at night, so at least try to avoid labeling your mother "the biggest bitch ever" simply because she doesn't want you on the phone for a few hours.

ColdFusion · Post by **ColdFusion** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 3:28 am

im trying reaaaaaaaaallly hard but shes so overly protective its not even funny. Like seriously, im 17 years old and i cant date. I abide no problem by most of the rules but omg i just cant handle it anymore!!! and this is not an isolated incident... this is a common thing but tonight she reamed me out for like 20 mins i just stood there and literally banged my head against the door.

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 3:29 am

Originally posted by ColdFusion
ya im only 17 though .. in our arguement she suggested suitcases!!! wtf ... it would break her heart if i moved out so why does she even suggest it ? why cant she understand that im just trying to grow up and live my life!!!!!!

Can't answer that...
I suppose the idea is that she's telling you
if you don't like it, move out..

but she knows you prolly wont do it..
if you tried it...you'd prolly be back..

at least she's yelling at you? not beating you, eh?..

ColdFusion · Post by **ColdFusion** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 3:39 am

haha no she would never beat me. I think she loves me too much, and thats the problem, why am i complaining ? its just too damn much shes telling me what i can and cannot do

i dont mind but when she tells me "i can ban you from seeing her"!!!!!!!! what the hell

lonewolfz28 · Post by **lonewolfz28** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 3:54 am

Be glad you have a parent that cares and quit your b*******. You're 17, big whoop. When you get to be 27 you'll realize how little you knew at 17 and how lucky you were to have parents that cared. At 33 you'll realize how cocky you were at 27 to think you knew so much about life. I'm sure at 47 I'll realize how ignorant I was at 33.

You make 17 sound like you're know everything that's good for you and are ready to take on life. Maybe you are, but chances are you're not. There are plenty of folks out there that's love to have someone care enough to at least try to look out for them. Your complaining about it just shows how immature you really are.

Just my opinion, and considering that I'm old enough to be your dad if I'd knocked up your Mom at a movie at 17, I'd say I'm entitled.

ColdFusion · Post by **ColdFusion** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:09 am

Haha. Ok, maybe im a bit immature but does it sound wrong that i want to have a bit of fun before i become "old". As far as im concerned everything is innocent, im glad my mom cares but its a bit excessive dont ya think ? I would like to have good memories when i get old of being a teenager, not remembering all the fun i didnt have

CM Weaver · Post by **CM Weaver** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:21 am

You're growing up and soon you will be out on your own. Your mom is probably coming to that realization and it's only natural for parents to be over-protective, especially when one of their own is leaving the nest. Cut her some slack.

Mehmet · Post by **Mehmet** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:22 am

dude...

im 17.

i dont date.

im not complaining.

My momma is c00

my daddy is c00.

big up yo self.

zooner · Post by **zooner** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:24 am

usually I side with the parent, but I agree with you coldfusion on this one.

your mom is nuts.

If she's unsure on how she raised you, it's a little bit late to be discussing it now.

think it goes away when you're 27? I'm 27 and it still hasnt gone away, I still hate my parents for how they treated me and my brother when we were teenagers. I love them and get along with them now, but I still flip-out when I think about it.

Know onetrueday and think she's amazing? She is. I didnt talk to my parents for almost three years because they disagreed with my marriage to her and refused to come to my wedding. The reason? She's wasnt a born-again christian. That doesnt make any sense because she's more of a christian then I am. If I was ten minutes late coming home when I was younger, they'd ground me for three weeks with no TV, No phone, I couldnt even read a freakin book. Think strict parenting is always good? My brother moved out at 16 and still hasnt striaghtened his life out at 31, but he had it worse then I did.

the blanket issue... sounds like she has some serious issues. You should really try and get to her cancel cable and stop watching those b*llsh*t magazine shows like 48 hours. Her mind sounds SERIOUSLY polluted by slanted journalism.

ColdFusion · Post by **ColdFusion** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:25 am

aw i feel so bad!! I know shes trying but how do i tell her that i really like this girl and seriously would consider dating her ? I know i want to, but do i need to make it simple for her to understand ? Shes really good with everything except when it comes to girls .. she apparently has had nightmares about me screwing up my life because of girls, but im not sure if its a problem with her trusting me, or actually her excuse of girls being the problem. I've never done anything ever to damage our trusting relationship, but i trust myself to moderate a relationship im in, im not out to have sex with any girl, im not even out really to have sex, i just want to get to know this girl i met more ... is that so much to ask

?

lonewolfz28 · Post by **lonewolfz28** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:27 am

Originally posted by ColdFusion
Haha. Ok, maybe im a bit immature but does it sound wrong that i want to have a bit of fun before i become "old". As far as im concerned everything is innocent, im glad my mom cares but its a bit excessive dont ya think ? I would like to have good memories when i get old of being a teenager, not remembering all the fun i didnt have

No it's not excessive and "old" doesn't happen until you let it.

I know folks in their forties that are having more fun than they did in their teens. First, because they know what they really want. Two, because they kept themselves active and in shape. Three, because they learned to appreciate what they have.

For the record, I didn't feel old until I got divorced at 26 and realized that the dating pool was a whole lot shallower than it was at 23 when I met my ex-wife. Even using that scenario, you still have 6-9 good years until you get "old".

That's almost half again as long as you have lived. Think about it. Do you realize how long ago 8 years old is to you now. That's how long you have until you should even start to feel the initial twinges of being "old".

If you have the right attitude, right job and take care of yourself, you shouldn't feel "old" until you have kids in their teens. Then you'll be trying to keep them from making the same mistakes, sending the wrong signals that you did.

Off topic: It always cracked me up when the 17-21 year-olds that I taught always tried pulling the same crap/giving the same excuses that I did when I was their age and then acted like they had thought of something new.

ColdFusion · Post by **ColdFusion** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:29 am

Originally posted by zooner
usually I side with the parent, but I agree with you coldfusion on this one.

your mom is nuts.

If she's unsure on how she raised you, it's a little bit late to be discussing it now.

think it goes away when you're 27? I'm 27 and it still hasnt gone away, I still hate my parents for how they treated me and my brother when we were teenagers. I love them and get along with them now, but I still flip-out when I think about it.

Know onetrueday and think she's amazing? She is. I didnt talk to my parents for almost three years because they disagreed with my marriage to her and refused to come to my wedding. The reason? She's wasnt a born-again christian. That doesnt make any sense because she's more of a christian then I am. If I was ten minutes late coming home when I was younger, they'd ground me for three weeks with no TV, No phone, I couldnt even read a freakin book. Think strict parenting is always good? My brother moved out at 16 and still hasnt striaghtened his life out at 31, but he had it worse then I did.

the blanket issue... sounds like she has some serious issues. You should really try and get to her cancel cable and stop watching those b*llsh*t magazine shows like 48 hours. Her mind sounds SERIOUSLY polluted by slanted journalism.

Wow, amazing you mention christianity. Thats EXACTLY what my mom said, im not allowed to date anyone that is not a "born again, saved christian"... wtf i dont even consider myself born again. I think the church, or the bible is playing with her mind. I seriously think she has problems and im not joking ... but i cant even imagine trying to tell her that

ColdFusion · Post by **ColdFusion** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:32 am

Originally posted by lonewolfz28
No it's not excessive and "old" doesn't happen until you let it.

I know folks in their forties that are having more fun than they did in their teens. First, because they know what they really want. Two, because they kept themselves active and in shape. Three, because they learned to appreciate what they have.

For the record, I didn't feel old until I got divorced at 26 and realized that the dating pool was a whole lot shallower than it was at 23 when I met my ex-wife. Even using that scenario, you still have 6-9 good years until you get "old". That's almost half again as long as you have lived. Think about it. Do you realize how long ago 8 years old is to you now. That's how long you have until you should even start to feel the initial twinges of being "old".

If you have the right attitude, right job and take care of yourself, you shouldn't feel "old" until you have kids in their teens. Then you'll be trying to keep them from making the same mistakes, sending the wrong signals that you did.

Off topic: It always cracked me up when the 17-21 year-olds that I taught always tried pulling the same crap/giving the same excuses that I did when I was their age and then acted like they had thought of something new.

Haha ... i know, i try and learn alot from people a bit older than me, i really want to make the right choices so i dont have too many regrets when i am considered "older" lol.

lonewolfz28 · Post by **lonewolfz28** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:35 am

Originally posted by zooner
usually I side with the parent, but I agree with you coldfusion on this one.

your mom is nuts.

If she's unsure on how she raised you, it's a little bit late to be discussing it now.

think it goes away when you're 27? I'm 27 and it still hasnt gone away, I still hate my parents for how they treated me and my brother when we were teenagers. I love them and get along with them now, but I still flip-out when I think about it.

Know onetrueday and think she's amazing? She is. I didnt talk to my parents for almost three years because they disagreed with my marriage to her and refused to come to my wedding. The reason? She's wasnt a born-again christian. That doesnt make any sense because she's more of a christian then I am. If I was ten minutes late coming home when I was younger, they'd ground me for three weeks with no TV, No phone, I couldnt even read a freakin book. Think strict parenting is always good? My brother moved out at 16 and still hasnt striaghtened his life out at 31, but he had it worse then I did.

the blanket issue... sounds like she has some serious issues. You should really try and get to her cancel cable and stop watching those b*llsh*t magazine shows like 48 hours. Her mind sounds SERIOUSLY polluted by slanted journalism.

Unlike you or I, he actually seems to have a good relationship with his parents. My mother was the direct opposite of yours, too lenient, and I still hate her for certain things. Strict or lenient isn't as important as intent. Your mom cared too much with intent that you didn't like and mine cared too little with no intent other than her own needs. Which was better?

lonewolfz28 · Post by **lonewolfz28** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:39 am

Originally posted by ColdFusion
Wow, amazing you mention christianity. Thats EXACTLY what my mom said, im not allowed to date anyone that is not a "born again, saved christian"... wtf i dont even consider myself born again. I think the church, or the bible is playing with her mind. I seriously think she has problems and im not joking ... but i cant even imagine trying to tell her that

Uh, oh. Not the whole "religion is the root of all evil" discussion again. We'll have Brent in here to set us all straight again.

zooner · Post by **zooner** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:40 am

Originally posted by ColdFusion
Wow, amazing you mention christianity. Thats EXACTLY what my mom said, im not allowed to date anyone that is not a "born again, saved christian"... wtf i dont even consider myself born again. I think the church, or the bible is playing with her mind. I seriously think she has problems and im not joking ... but i cant even imagine trying to tell her that

I'd strongly suggest moving out as soon as possible. Some might disagree, but I fully understand what you're going through. The sooner the better.

zooner · Post by **zooner** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:41 am

Originally posted by lonewolfz28
Unlike you or I, he actually seems to have a good relationship with his parents. My mother was the direct opposite of yours, too lenient, and I still hate her for certain things. Strict or lenient isn't as important as intent. Your mom cared too much with intent that you didn't like and mine cared too little with no intent other than her own needs. Which was better?

that's it...

it wasnt about me, it was about her relationship with god and how others viewed that relationship.

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 7:33 am

hmm glad I never had all those probs..
my mom doesn't believe in god....
my stepdad does..he used to make us go to church, but he quickly realized it was a dumb thing to do..

vinnie · Post by **vinnie** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 8:56 am

I've never had a problem with my folks. They were fairly lenient later in life, probably because by then I'd proven I was deserved of such leniency. It's a crazy world

The blanket issue is... I'm not sure why you're complaining. Sure, you may think you have perfectly innocent intetions... but people may carry WMD's for perfectly innocent intentions too. She's hardly out of line, 99 times out of a hundred she'd be spot on.

If you do have serious issues with it that mean you may be about to break... leave. You probably don't know quite as much as you think you do... but the best way to find that out is get out of the house and pay your own way

My sister moved out at 18... she thought she knew it all. After much trial and tribulation... she's been living in the same dump ever since and her flatmate is a male homosexual prostitute now. Not that I have anything against men that are paid to perform sexual acts on other men... just I could think of better people to share a crappy apartment with

Anyhow, there's no laws keeping you at home, if you want out then move out. If you don't want to move out then put up with it. That's how the world works unfortunately.

Mehmet · Post by **Mehmet** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:56 pm

one thing that bothered me about this is..

WTF, a blanket.

dude, she can dress in layers..

Blisster · Post by **Blisster** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:05 pm

Hey CF-

you're just going through growing pains and your mom is facing the reality of you growing up and moving out on your own. Its an akward time for both you and your parents, everyone goes through it. In about 6 or 7 years you and your parents will have more of an "equal" relationship and will better be able to see 'eye to eye' or agree to disagree.

give it time, and like C3PO once said "maybe you should let the wookie win"-even if you don't agree, its sometimes best to just concede.

Merry Christmas.
J

chevyman282 · Post by **chevyman282** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:18 pm

ColdFusion,
I was on my own at 17, I had to join the Army in 1969 in order to have have a place to sleep.....

I had parents who cared about me, but I thougt they hated me..I kept late hours, skipped school, and tried to outsmart the system....I finally was kicked out of the house....Thank God, because then I grew up fast, I found out that my friends were only there when I could do something for them......

ColdFusion, rely on yourself and give your parents a little credit for knowing more about life then you......

chevyman..

fastchevy · Post by **fastchevy** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:53 pm

Originally posted by Mehmet

WTF, a blanket.

dude, she can dress in layers..

When I was 17, I would have used the blanket deal to get laid.
Although at 17 my girlfriend was a nympho and didn't need a blanket to mess around

Good thinking CF

I agree with Zooner. My mom was waaaaaaaay to strict while I was growing up, it sucked. We have a good relationship now, but didn't while living under the same roof. Sometimes as soon as you turn 18, it's best to move out...if you can't afford it, try and live on campus on a college if you get any type of financial aid.

ColdFusion · Post by **ColdFusion** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:24 am

Well i dont want to move out thats the thing, im just mad with some of the rules my mom comes up with to force upon me. THe blanket issue came up because thats kynda what made me mad at her originally. I give my mom lots of credit, shes done a great job raising me i think, its just i would like to date, and she has to disagree. Im only in grade 11 actually, still got a few more years until i can leave.

ScottE · Post by **ScottE** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 1:08 pm

There is a saying "Women can't live with them, can't kill them"

I know what you are going through I've been there myself. I think at somepoint everyone has. It's all a part of growing up. For both you and your mom.

koldchillah · Post by **koldchillah** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 1:35 pm

I miss being 17 and going through that crap.. For me it was a bit different though. When I was 17, my all-knowing father caught me sneaking a girl out of my room the next day after she stayed the night. Man was I ever in trouble!

I still get flashbacks of his life threatening tone: "Don'tchyou EVER.. and i mean EVER!!! bring a girl home in MY HOUSE!!! EVER!!!! .. EVER!!! YOU HEAR ME!? THAT IS THE MOST DISRESPECTFUL THING. BLAH, BLAH BLAH!!!" meanwhile I'm pinned up against the wall with my dad holding me by the throat.

It was worth it though, I was a kid in high school who just bagged a hot 19yr old college girl that I had met downtown the night before... It was my first great "catch" and the chic had no idea I was in High School.. lol I HAD to bring her home.. She didn't mind I lived with my parents so it was gravy.. I figured I'd get her out of the house before my parents woke up, but unfortunately a night of playtime in the bed and I was well asleep by the time daylight rolled around.. lol I woke up when my dad knocked on my door!! I about had a stroke.. I opened the door, told my dad I was still tired and pretended to lie back down as I contemplated getting this girl out the window... Suddenly my mom is outside doing yardwork right near my window.. The odds continued to stack against me.. I walked out into the living room and came clean with my dad: "uhh... dad.. I sorta have to tell you something.. and I know your gonna get really pissed.. <GULP!> ".

My dad and I can joke about it nowadays.. My mom even told me that back then, my dad wanted to put hidden surveillance in my room!!

aww.. those were the days..

Meggie · Post by **Meggie** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 2:16 pm

ive for the most part gotten along with my mom. So maybe this advice wont work for you, but it sounds like you care about your mom and her feelings, so why dont you talk to her. Explain to her that she raised you well, and now she just needs to trust that your going to make the right decisions in life.

sometimes just having a talk like that can show that maybe your more mature then she thought u were, and maybe your not going to go out and make all kinds of crazy mistakes.

i think shes just trying to protect you and althought it doesnt sound like shes doing it in the best way, i think she means well.

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