i'm screwed

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 12:45 am

Ok,driving home from work on main st doing 75 in a 25..car pulls out behind me so i drop it to around 60..dunno why but i did..then all of a sudden this car grew flashing light..police lights...im like SH1T..so he comes up..i give him my info..he writes me up for doing 75,no seatbelt,no interior lights(wich i did have..just didnt need them cause of those bright spot lights they turn on to blind ya)stuff hanging from my rear view mirror(didnt know you could get in trouble for that) stcikers on the botom of my back window..and a crooked headlight..so he hannded me the ticket and it was 665..i was dropping briks...then he took it back..he ws like..i can get rid of this for you but i need your help..so im like sweet...he takes it back...he askes me..how was the party at riverpoint park last night..so i say i'm sorry? i didnt go to a party there..i went to another party at a friends house last night till 6:00 am..(wich i really did) he was like..how old are you..i say 19..he says perfect..he was like..im going to hold on to this ticket and your going to call me in a week with info about that party..who was there and what time and what not....mind you i honestly have no clue about this party..so now i have to scour my town and my friends to see if anybody knows about this party...comes to find out the officer told me that the stands and benches at the 4 baseball fields there were burned and smashed to all hell..completly unusable..the little girls softball season just started..i feel horribal about it..but how am i supposed to find out stuff about this? im so screwed..! argh..!

axtrader · Post by **axtrader** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 12:48 am

morbidpete = OWNED!!!

Faust · Post by **Faust** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 12:53 am

you know what i would do? call him back in a week and just say "i'm sorry, but i didn't find anything about the party that you didn;t already know.... i'm really sorry".

it'll cost you... but i really really hate being a tool.

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 12:57 am

Originally posted by axtrader
morbidpete = OWNED!!!

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 12:57 am

Originally posted by Faust
it'll cost you

yea over 600 that i do not have..i deliver pizza man

jumpingrat · Post by **jumpingrat** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 12:58 am

In Calif. and a couple other states I know of off the top of my head that officer commited a crime (I was a dep. sherrif and know that was a no-no). 1 - Call a lawyer or your local DA and find out. 2 - Or call him and lie and possibly earn his wrath and your own eternal personal ticketing officer. 3 - Or pay your fine and slow it down mister.

Faust · Post by **Faust** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 1:13 am

Originally posted by morbidpete
yea over 600 that i do not have..i deliver pizza man

well... and not to sound like an arse...... but that's what you get. and i can say this because i have been in the very same position (owed fine money that i didn't have) when i was younger for doing stupid things (again, not meant as an insult).

IMO, you will only owe them money for so long (they have payment plans and community service. just explain to the judge what you CAN pay in cash, and he may work something out for you as far as doing community service to make up the balance).

becoming an informant will is a guilt you will live with for a long time.

zooner · Post by **zooner** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 1:14 am

sounds fishy.

I'd definately contact a lawyer because what he's doing might be illegal or at least questionable. He was definately baiting you for information with the size of that ticket.

I would certainly NOT lie and make something up. I also wouldnt tell him the truth because the wrath of the people involved might be worse then the 600 ticket.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 1:23 am

Pay the f-ing ticket... he's useing you to do his job? what a puke.

Trust me, paying the ticket will be the best thing you ever do. I've seen many CI's get skooled hard.

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 12:48 pm

Make some sh*t up, Tell him some names of whoever and some BS details. No price to pay and your (civic duty is done). If he wants to pull some shady sh*t then do the same thing. Yeah it's ashame about what happened but if you honestly don't know use it to your advantage.

Jstyr · Post by **Jstyr** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 1:00 pm

If you don't have the money they'll throw you in county lockup.

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 1:02 pm

I'd say call the DA and report this. if you don't do what the d00d wannts, he could make your life hell

minir · Post by **minir** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 1:18 pm

Hi morbidpete

The Rat is trying to turn you. Screw him.

Stick with your i didn't go their and Know nothing about what happened.

I doubt very much what he is doing is Legal & you could seek out a Lawyer and probably beat his A$$. However you'd be on the List of every Cop in town from there on in.

Ask for time and pay the Fine. By the way Tape any conversation you have with this Prince among men

By the way i wouldn't call him. let him come to you
regards

minir

Randy · Post by **Randy** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 1:49 pm

I would challenge the ticket explain to the judge how the officer was blackmailing you into doing police work.

then make sure you drive the speed limit from now on bcz he will be on your ass!

That cop could get in alot of trouble. I suppose the cop figures he would be some kinda hereo if you actually got him some info that lead to an arrest.

Cop >" if you have any information bring it to me I will be at the donut shop from 10 am - 7 pm"

^ what a hero

what a discrace to the police force

wheres russle?

Jstyr · Post by **Jstyr** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 4:45 pm

Lol Randy, telling the judge the cop blackmailed him won't do any good. It'll do harm. judge won't believe it and will come down harder on the kid for making up such a 'wild' story. Maybe in Canada that would work but not here.

unless, he's in Canada???

Croc · Post by **Croc** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 4:48 pm

I don't think he will be able to do anything.
He has held back on processing the ticket for a start.

Ignore the guy. If he tries to arrange a meeting, don't turn up.
If you end up in court, tell the Judge and let him deal with it.

Croc.

axtrader · Post by **axtrader** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 4:52 pm

Morbidpete, more bad news for ya. If that ticket ever sees the ligt of day your career in pizza delivery is toast. 75 in a 25 means instant license suspension in most places.

fastchevy · Post by **fastchevy** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 4:54 pm

I'd make some name/ info up. First let me say, if you go the DA, who are they going to believe???? Someone with a $600 ticket or the cop??? THEY WILL NOT BELIEVE A WORD YOU SAY trust me on this. If you think you can get out of the ticket by giving up information, then do it. If you can come up with a few names that were really at the party that's even better. Screw the other ppl, they broke the law so if you rat them out it doesn't matter. You broke a traffic law, they broke several state laws which by the way were felonies.

ghost · Post by **ghost** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 5:06 pm

Do you want to help the people that destroyed public property?

I notice some real anti-law enforcement sentiment here, for whatever personal reasons.

There are bad people everywhere, on either side of the law enforcement line, this I do know. I question the actions of the officer and suggest that you contact an attorney NOT IN YOUR SMALL TOWN and proceed from there. You need EXPERT advice, not comments from members here that obviously have an ax to grind against the law enforcement community.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 5:10 pm

Originally posted by zooner
sounds fishy.

He was definately baiting you for information with the size of that ticket.

it could easiliy be that much.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 5:11 pm

Originally posted by Jstyr
If you don't have the money they'll throw you in county lockup.

LOL

Pepin · Post by **Pepin** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 5:36 pm

Don't bother with the info, or the ticket. Await your court date... get all of your lesser infringements fixed.. (headlight, etc... ) and take proof with you to court that you had them fixed. Can you be stopped for no seatbelt in your state? If so... pay that one... and then challenge the calibration records of the speed recording device. Most cops don't even that that kind of stuff to court with them. If the cop can't produce calibrations records dated within 30 days prior to the ticket, the judge tosses it out. I have beat many speeding tickets that way.. and I am a professional driver. Get the advice of a lawyer, tell him just what you shared with us here... see where you can go.. most lawyers offer a free consult.

Best of Luck!

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 5:48 pm

what is a professional driver?

like a trucker? limo driver?

Croc · Post by **Croc** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 7:00 pm

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
what is a professional driver?

like a trucker? limo driver?

Holdup getaway cars??

Croc.

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:59 am

thanks everybody for the info..i dont plane on calling the da or getting a lawer..nor am i paying the ticket..he ripped it up with my expired insurance card(forgot about that) and threw it at me(i didnt sign it either) but i did get a little info..we have this really gay gang wantabee in our town called the pheonix ruff ryders..they tagged all over the builing..i went and looked at them..got some heat for that i might add...shouldnt they hav known that? now i dont know who supposibly is in this "gang" but i know were they all hang out..there a bunch of 16-20 years old..im not worried about them..so thats all i have so far

jayyy · Post by **jayyy** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:27 am

Originally posted by morbidpete
thanks everybody for the info..i dont plane on calling the da or getting a lawer..nor am i paying the ticket..he ripped it up with my expired insurance card(forgot about that) and threw it at me(i didnt sign it either) but i did get a little info..we have this really gay gang wantabee in our town called the pheonix ruff ryders..they tagged all over the builing..i went and looked at them..got some heat for that i might add...shouldnt they hav known that? now i dont know who supposibly is in this "gang" but i know were they all hang out..there a bunch of 16-20 years old..im not worried about them..so thats all i have so far

He threw it in your face?? Thats no way to get help from people.
Buthey sound like a bunch of dicks that deserve to get caught anyway. I'd call him and tell him you what you know...but no harm taping the conversation, just in case

Make sure you make it clear theres a trade off for the ticket when you talk.

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:07 pm

Cool, so it's not only the NYPig D that's full of corrupt a$$holes!

Bouncer · Post by **Bouncer** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:31 pm

It's not corrupt. It's actually rather solid policework. Sorry, but it is. It's smart as hell.

A known 19 year old bsing with friends about that party where the stuff got trashed is going to get a completely different reaction than some uniformed officer asking questions and holding a clipboard writing down answers.

He, the cop is trying to figure out who did it. You, (the speeder) are his way of getting info about the group in general. If you weren't there, then you can probably (in a smaller town) find out who was or might've been or know someone who has more info.

That's a trail he can follow and that's what he's looking for. A place to start.

You're asking to get out of a speeding ticket plus multiple other offences that he simply doesn't have to let you out of. He's trying to solve a crime that hurt no one but little kids trying to play. You either make the deal and help yourself and the community or you don't.

Regards,
-Bouncer-

Pepin · Post by **Pepin** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 7:45 pm

professional driver = over the road, i.e. truck driver

RoundEye · Post by **RoundEye** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:29 pm

I've known two people personally that got hurt BAD for ratting out people. One guy got hit by two cars when somebody cut the brake lines on his motorbike, The other guy had his head smashed and jaw broken with pool sticks.

I don't know if it's worth all that over some smashed bleachers. Maybe if it were somebody's life or loss of life it may be worth getting involved in.

On the other hand, maybe a good asskicking will keep you from doing 75 in a 25. If you want to race take it to the track or some remote area. Not main street where you take a chance of killing somebody other then yourself.

Grimson · Post by **Grimson** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:42 pm

Don't be a snitch.

jayyy · Post by **jayyy** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 1:33 am

If he tried to bring on the fine next week, which he almost definitely won't, I'd fight it, but why are so many people against him ratting these guys out? They burnt down a little girls baseball park or something, didn't they? If I knew something I'd call the cops anyway.
He just has to make a phone call, who would know anyway? Its not like he's finking out his old buddies from the columbia cartel or something, he's just helping catch some guys that deserve to be caught in the first place.

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:07 am

plus im not ratting anybody out.they left the tags thr morons..hvns been to work or even out fo ym house due to the fact that i have to burn 100 cd's by yesterday..:-P im a little late..but i am definatly telling him what i know..and these people are arse holes anyways for doing that..no?

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Thu Sep 11, 2003 7:28 am

too bad...
you DESERVED that ticket..

75 in a 25 GEEZ...

I also heard that the tickets are numbered and they can't just rip one up?..dunno..
also, last few times I got a ticket (only 2) the cops couldn't/wouldn't tell me how much it was I had to call to find out how much it was even..
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