Cable Modem network setups
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2000 11:03 pm
I've had a Shaw@home cable connection for almost a couple of years now. I found it adequate for my Internet needs until I decided I would like to expand it to handle a notebook computer.
I've posted this info to a few individuals who haven't answered them as yet so I thought I'd try and start here to get some of the answers I might need. I want to get moving on this as quickly as possible.
I understand a fair bit about computers. I know NOTHING about the innards of networking them properly. Most of the sales people and heavily tech network types of whom I've asked questions have only served to confuse me more.
I have a desktop computer running Windows 2000. It presently has 2 PCI NICs in it on seperate IRQ's. One is connected to an RJ45 jack to a TeraPro cable modem. The other PCI NIC is connected through the RJ45 jack to a Dell APR (advanced port replicator) docking station with has a NIC built into it on a RJ45 jcak. The Dell is running Windows 98SE.
I call this my hardwired setup. From either the desktop or the notebook I can access the Internet and I can transfer files back and forth.
I have ONE IP address I’m assuming is dynamic through shaw@home so I guess it changes, right? How often I’m not sure because I haven’t paid attention to it.
The networking appears to be handled by ICS (internet connection sharing) in win2k and win98SE. I’m assuming that the notebook somehow gets into the net through that one dynamic IP address. Correct?
Now pay attention because this is where I get tons of different answers that are as different as serial numbers on currency!
I want to maintain this hardwired application and I want to ADD wireless flexibility to the notebook. It stands to reason that if it’s a nice day I want to get into the back yard with the notebook to work, under a shaded umbrella and I don’t want to be running hardwired connection to the outside of the house, or to the den, or to the basement etc…
I’m totally open for suggestion on the best way to do this with the least amount of hardware involved.
I’ve experiment with a Wireless PCMCIA NIC labeled by Dell and it’s counterpart a wireless PCI NIC… I think they got it from Aironet because that’s the logo on the back of the NIC’s…
I put the wireless PCI NIC into the desktop and the wireless PCMCIA NIC into the undocked Dell. The Dell recognized it immediately and configured it and you could see it under device manager. The desktop system saw the wireless PCI NIC and configured it under ntk2 on IRQ 9 with was being shared by another PCI NIC on IRQ 9. I couldn’t get them separated. To compound the problem after messing with this for 2 nights. There are NO proper win2k drivers. Dell has got them and Aironet’s can be used because some tweaking went on… The Cdrom had this great mpeg video showing a win2000 directory on the cd but after calling Dell it really doesn’t exist.
So I sent the cards back…
During the experimentation that went on I got familiar with some aspects of networking but not enough to find a proper solution to what I want to do…
For example could a desktop technically have 3 PCI NICS in it and function properly?
I know you folks will offer suggestions about adding routers, hubs and a pile of stuff. If you do I need to know how you’re piecing it together. I also know there’s probably a dozens ways of handling this. I only need one that works!… kidding of course.
Here’s the direction I think I’d like to go… just remember I don’t know what I’m talking about… but these are my thoughts…
We’ve got a cable modem connected to the Internet. From that I think you have to introduce one of two things a router or a hub… PCI NICs into the desktop and connections to the notebook when it’s docked and when it’s undocked a wireless solution.
Dell does have access to a business solution involving what they call the “Enterprise” which is suppose to be better than their 4800LT series. I’m considering this for the wireless aspect. Apparently it is more hardware oriented and doesn’t rely on heavily bloated software like or similar to Sygen.
This has all gotten really complicated, really fast… at least for me.
I figure if I can tie the cable modem into a router with ports i.e. a Linksys Etherfast Cable/DSL router, or possibly the UMAX Ugate300 I can get away with not having a hub involved. The router would help with a hardware solution to security…
But the Linksys unit doesn’t appear to be able to cope with dynamic IPs whereas the Ugate 3000 might… I’d like to consider the Linksys because the reviews have been good, it’s relatively cheap. I just don’t know if the dynamic handling of IP’s is a software problem or if it also involves the hardware.
The there’s all that LAN stuff… access to the net, an internal LAN and a wireless LAN… I’m only connecting a single notebook so why not just use a crossover cable… I don’t want to be too short-side on this because I eventually will connect one more desktop.
Can anyone offer some suggestions. I’ve spent a fair bit of time lurking on Tom Higgins site and reading as much as I can… but because there’s so many directions one can take I’m confused where to really start…
Thanks
John kajfes
I've posted this info to a few individuals who haven't answered them as yet so I thought I'd try and start here to get some of the answers I might need. I want to get moving on this as quickly as possible.
I understand a fair bit about computers. I know NOTHING about the innards of networking them properly. Most of the sales people and heavily tech network types of whom I've asked questions have only served to confuse me more.
I have a desktop computer running Windows 2000. It presently has 2 PCI NICs in it on seperate IRQ's. One is connected to an RJ45 jack to a TeraPro cable modem. The other PCI NIC is connected through the RJ45 jack to a Dell APR (advanced port replicator) docking station with has a NIC built into it on a RJ45 jcak. The Dell is running Windows 98SE.
I call this my hardwired setup. From either the desktop or the notebook I can access the Internet and I can transfer files back and forth.
I have ONE IP address I’m assuming is dynamic through shaw@home so I guess it changes, right? How often I’m not sure because I haven’t paid attention to it.
The networking appears to be handled by ICS (internet connection sharing) in win2k and win98SE. I’m assuming that the notebook somehow gets into the net through that one dynamic IP address. Correct?
Now pay attention because this is where I get tons of different answers that are as different as serial numbers on currency!
I want to maintain this hardwired application and I want to ADD wireless flexibility to the notebook. It stands to reason that if it’s a nice day I want to get into the back yard with the notebook to work, under a shaded umbrella and I don’t want to be running hardwired connection to the outside of the house, or to the den, or to the basement etc…
I’m totally open for suggestion on the best way to do this with the least amount of hardware involved.
I’ve experiment with a Wireless PCMCIA NIC labeled by Dell and it’s counterpart a wireless PCI NIC… I think they got it from Aironet because that’s the logo on the back of the NIC’s…
I put the wireless PCI NIC into the desktop and the wireless PCMCIA NIC into the undocked Dell. The Dell recognized it immediately and configured it and you could see it under device manager. The desktop system saw the wireless PCI NIC and configured it under ntk2 on IRQ 9 with was being shared by another PCI NIC on IRQ 9. I couldn’t get them separated. To compound the problem after messing with this for 2 nights. There are NO proper win2k drivers. Dell has got them and Aironet’s can be used because some tweaking went on… The Cdrom had this great mpeg video showing a win2000 directory on the cd but after calling Dell it really doesn’t exist.
So I sent the cards back…
During the experimentation that went on I got familiar with some aspects of networking but not enough to find a proper solution to what I want to do…
For example could a desktop technically have 3 PCI NICS in it and function properly?
I know you folks will offer suggestions about adding routers, hubs and a pile of stuff. If you do I need to know how you’re piecing it together. I also know there’s probably a dozens ways of handling this. I only need one that works!… kidding of course.
Here’s the direction I think I’d like to go… just remember I don’t know what I’m talking about… but these are my thoughts…
We’ve got a cable modem connected to the Internet. From that I think you have to introduce one of two things a router or a hub… PCI NICs into the desktop and connections to the notebook when it’s docked and when it’s undocked a wireless solution.
Dell does have access to a business solution involving what they call the “Enterprise” which is suppose to be better than their 4800LT series. I’m considering this for the wireless aspect. Apparently it is more hardware oriented and doesn’t rely on heavily bloated software like or similar to Sygen.
This has all gotten really complicated, really fast… at least for me.
I figure if I can tie the cable modem into a router with ports i.e. a Linksys Etherfast Cable/DSL router, or possibly the UMAX Ugate300 I can get away with not having a hub involved. The router would help with a hardware solution to security…
But the Linksys unit doesn’t appear to be able to cope with dynamic IPs whereas the Ugate 3000 might… I’d like to consider the Linksys because the reviews have been good, it’s relatively cheap. I just don’t know if the dynamic handling of IP’s is a software problem or if it also involves the hardware.
The there’s all that LAN stuff… access to the net, an internal LAN and a wireless LAN… I’m only connecting a single notebook so why not just use a crossover cable… I don’t want to be too short-side on this because I eventually will connect one more desktop.
Can anyone offer some suggestions. I’ve spent a fair bit of time lurking on Tom Higgins site and reading as much as I can… but because there’s so many directions one can take I’m confused where to really start…
Thanks
John kajfes